Yea I know right, I need to call him back up and see if he remembers. I would say it’s more of a clunk and forced shift or sloppy shift, similar to what my Power Wagon with a 66rfe did. I live on a military base so getting to work the speed limit is 15- 25 and the truck idles at that speed holds second shortly (according to my tuner) then it feels like it releases everything clunk and third gear it is.