5.7 Hemi Discontinued

[indept]

My point about the ecoboost past 100k isn't being afraid of new technology but being familiar with it. Everytime an improvement like that comes out you hear how great it is and how fast and more hp/ torque but what you find is problems do arise and it happens typically after the warranty expires. So when THEY fix it they do it at your expense. So I'll enjoy my hemi for now and let THEM work the bugs out.

 

[AFMoulton]

My point about the ecoboost past 100k isn't being afraid of new technology but being familiar with it. Everytime an improvement like that comes out you hear how great it is and how fast and more hp/ torque but what you find is problems do arise and it happens typically after the warranty expires. So when THEY fix it they do it at your expense. So I'll enjoy my hemi for now and let THEM work the bugs out.

Completely agree, that’s why I will never buy a first model year vehicle. Too many problems. Too many moving parts with the eco boost to really know the shortfalls. Wait and see what happens.


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[adrianp89]

X2 on the more HP with smaller engines...Case in point...A guy I used to race against just claimed the WORLD RECORD for HP from a 4-stroke snowmobile engine...1077cc Turbo...2 cylinder SUZUKI motor pulled 721 hp @ the DynoTech Research dyno in N.Y. recently...

Sounds like a great way to go out

 

[huntergreen]

A few things:

1) I have an Audi A4 Turbo, it is awesome, reliable and with a $500 chip I was able to get 50 extra HP ($/HP is hard to beat with an Naturally Aspirated engine).

2) Direct Injected engines, they do have carbon build up, that every 20k-30k miles should be addressed (not with additives, but with head removal or walnut cleaning.

I'm a big fan of turbo engines, and if you are chasing exhaust sounds, turbo engines can run straight pipes with increased performance (there is no need for back pressure). More HP with less engine size and weight and better fuel economy? Yes please. But it would be nice if they continue to sell the Hemi as an option (whenever that day comes).

I read a year more back that the carbon build up is due to our low quality fuel. That might be corrected. No idea how true the article is though.

 

[JPT]

I read a year more back that the carbon build up is due to our low quality fuel. That might be corrected. No idea how true the article is though.

It’s not. It’s very common with direct injected systems. It may increase with low quality fuel, but it will eventually happen, and the best way to fix it is to pull the head.

I have 100k on my 2008 A4, I had an oil consumption issue, I think the dealer didn’t properly torque the head back on (or reused the bolts), so I had to have the head gasket changed. While it was out, I had the head tested and valves replaced. There was significant carbon buildup (I never cleaned it before).

With direct injected engines, the days of 200k-300k miles on the original engine without opening her up are gone. I still will take better more fuel efficient tech over sticking with old.

 

[SHOOT2KILL]

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[Iggy4935]

What if they throw the 6.4 in the 1500s? That would be sweet.


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[axhoaxho]

RAM 1500 392 !!?

Take my money!

What if they throw the 6.4 in the 1500s? That would be sweet.


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[bryan28]

Bottom line is when they're gone they're gone and if you want a new truck you'll have to buy what is being offered.

 

[Two Dog]

I remember when fuel injection became available Just about everyone I knew swore they wouldn't own one and there would be nothing but problems. In all those years since, I have never had an issue with fuel injection other than an electric fuel pump. Carbs were a giant pain in the **** - good riddance.

Turbos are pretty reliable, I'd have no problem with owning a V-8 equivalent 4 or 6. Lighter and better mpg, sounds good. I definitely would miss the sweet V-8 sound though.

 

[JPT]

Turbos are pretty reliable, I'd have no problem with owning a V-8 equivalent 4 or 6. Lighter and better mpg, sounds good. I definitely would miss the sweet V-8 sound though.

Just like with anything there are manufacturing defects, but a factory installed (properly designed for the engine) turbos are bulletproof. Those who hear horror stories from turbos typically are from vehicles where people add turbos or upgrade to bigger/faster (spooling) than factory turbos.

If you let the engine oil warm up before boosting, and let the turbo cool off before shutting off the engine (stay out of boost for the last 5-10 minutes of driving) they simply last...

 

[chrisbh17]

Just like with anything there are manufacturing defects, but a factory installed (properly designed for the engine) turbos are bulletproof. Those who hear horror stories from turbos typically are from vehicles where people add turbos or upgrade to bigger/faster (spooling) than factory turbos.

If you let the engine oil warm up before boosting, and let the turbo cool off before shutting off the engine (stay out of boost for the last 5-10 minutes of driving) they simply last...

That reminds me of a question Ive had - do factory setups (like the Ecoboost) have turbo timers from the factory?

I find it hard to believe they would expect an average Joe owner to make sure to stay out of boost for 5-10 minutes before turning off their engine.

 

[cbsmith]

That reminds me of a question Ive had - do factory setups (like the Ecoboost) have turbo timers from the factory?

I find it hard to believe they would expect an average Joe owner to make sure to stay out of boost for 5-10 minutes before turning off their engine.

They don’t have turbo timers on them. The turbos on the eco boost are pretty small turbos as far as turbos go and cool down much quicker than a turbo on bigger engine like the Cummins or semi trucks. Unless yup are driving the crap out of it the slow drive down your street and into your driveway is probably enough to cool the eco boost turbos down.

Years back I hade a VW TDI diesel and the concenus from their forums were that unless you drove it hard right before shutting down, or had just come off the highway at a rest stop then it would be fine to shut down when you stopped.

 

[Riccochet]

The 3.5 Ecoboost in the F150 uses Borg Warner K03 turbo's that are water cooled. They are not susceptible to oil coking like the older style oil cooled turbo's that require a timer or light driving before shutting off.

All new production turbo engines use water cooled turbo's for that very reason.

 

[JPT]

That reminds me of a question Ive had - do factory setups (like the Ecoboost) have turbo timers from the factory?

I find it hard to believe they would expect an average Joe owner to make sure to stay out of boost for 5-10 minutes before turning off their engine.

You would be surprised how much pedal it takes to get into boost on my A4. So, unless you were flooring it then stopping and shutting off the engine immediately after, it will cool off by the time the average person gets off the highway to their house.

 

[JPT]

The 3.5 Ecoboost in the F150 uses Borg Warner K03 turbo's that are water cooled. They are not susceptible to oil coking like the older style oil cooled turbo's that require a timer or light driving before shutting off.

All new production turbo engines use water cooled turbo's for that very reason.

Remember, coolant doesn't circulate unless the engine is running. So, Oil or Water cooled, doesn't really matter, you want the turbo to cool off before shutting off the engine...

But, it is true, 99% of the time you dont have to worry about this. It's only heavy footed people who go from hard driving to parking that are the issue.

The same would apply to the engine, you wouldn't what to drive it hard and then just shut if off.

EDIT: Key is, don't buy a used Turbo from Ace Ventura with his "like a glove" parking.

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[Hemi395]

Kinda doubt the Hemi is going anywhere in 2018 seeing as this popped up today showing the 2019 with a 5.7 Hemi badge on the hood

2019 Ram 1500 Caught by the Camera Without its Camo » AutoGuide.com News

 

[GabAlmighty]

I just hate the added electronics of modern day turbo engines. They are very far from backyard mechanic modifiable, in my opinion

 

[Addicted2fishing]

I just hate the added electronics of modern day turbo engines. They are very far from backyard mechanic modifiable, in my opinion

I’m not a fan either. My waste gate on my Santa Fe turbo failed me twice leaving me with no boost and only being able to drive 50KPH. Makes for a drive home from work fun! Needless to say I’ll probably never own a turbo or Hyundai for that matter.


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[Devin1349]

Just looking at that "2019" Ram 1500 makes me want to buy a 2018 really bad