6.4L BGE Lifter Tap / Cam Wear - Time for new cam

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6.4LMegaMan

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I have a 2016 6.4L with 138,000 miles and just out of nowhere developed a nasty tick accompanied by a rough idle and P0301 Cylinder 1 misfire. I'm assuming it's a lifter eating the cam. I look at this as an opportunity to do some upgrades and am aiming to keep it all under $10k. I am looking to have a performance cam installed and any associated parts along with it.

I use this truck mostly as a daily driver on 35s but it also sees seasonal camper (8,000LB) and boat (5,000LB) towing through Appalachia.

I've done a lot of research and think I've settled on a FRP Hellfire 2.0 cam kit. The description for this cam is "216/226 111+4" and is recommended for 6.4L trucks with stock converter that see towing use. I've also found videos online of trucks that have this cam and everything seems to work well.

The kit comes with MDS delete "Hellcat" lifters, MDS plugs, new valve springs, pushrods, phaser limiter, head gaskets, head bolts, cam bolt, crank bolt, timing cover gasket, valve cover gaskets, intake gaskets, water pump gasket, valve stem seals. I'm also going to have the engine builder replace the water pump, all new timing set, and high volume oil pump.

The tuner uses HP Tuners and will use that to dyno tune the truck. I already have an unlocked PCM running a Diablosport tune so I'm good there.

My question is: Do I need anything else or am I missing anything? Will the stock spec torque converter work well with this cam or should I look at doing a higher stall speed converter or different cam? I understand that long tube headers will give the most gains, but I'm not sure that will be in the budget. Maybe down the road I can do that along with a retune?

For conversation sake, I looked at other cams and had the following thoughts:
MMX: It seems like this one is pretty mild or almost a direct OEM replacement. They push it as a "NSR" (no springs required), No tune required type cam.
BTR: It seems like this one might be a little too hot for my needs.
TSP: Again, the specs I could find on their website seemed pretty spicy.

Am I being too cautious with my thoughts above or what? Any experience is appreciated!
 

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Looks like a sweet cam option to me. I'll be curious if your PCM is actually unlocked or if it's diablo only unlocked like I've read about others. I used FRP and HP Tuners for my 1500 and I'm very happy. Make sure you let them know about towing usage and all that during the initial questionnaire part.

I don't know that anyone makes long tubes for the 2500, I think I read it's due to the EGR tube?
 
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I just confirmed with FRP that my PCM should be good to go if it was unlocked for use with the Diablosport. I just sent this cam package to the engine builder and told him to get me on his book. Hopefully he can get me on the schedule soon. I'll share my experience with this setup as I go along.
 

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Heck yea, i will be watching progress! My ‘16 with 125k has been great so far, but its always in the back of my mind as to “when” this is gonna happen.

Keep us updated !
 
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I had a setback... the shop I was hoping to use just told me they will only install an OEM type cam or their own custom grind. When I asked for them to do a custom cam he said it wouldn't be appropriate for my use (would need a high stall speed converter). It would have been nice if he told me that weeks ago.

So I'm starting over with a new shop. This will be the 4th shop I've talked to. It's like pulling teeth to try and get work done these days it seems. I have a blank check and am basically begging to get this done at this point.
 

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Where are you located? I know some good folks in MN
 
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I'm in western Pennsylvania. I'm currently waiting on a quote from a shop called Big 3 Racing out of West Salem, OH. They were recommended by FRP.
 

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I had a setback... the shop I was hoping to use just told me they will only install an OEM type cam or their own custom grind. When I asked for them to do a custom cam he said it wouldn't be appropriate for my use (would need a high stall speed converter). It would have been nice if he told me that weeks ago.

So I'm starting over with a new shop. This will be the 4th shop I've talked to. It's like pulling teeth to try and get work done these days it seems. I have a blank check and am basically begging to get this done at this point.
what a bunch of shade tree mechanics
i guess their "custom" grind isnt as custom as a real custom grind, or they could make it play nice with a stock converter
 

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