8 spd tranny at 100K miles What now?

[crazykid1994]

It's more than a couple hundred bucks to have the trans fluid changed by the dealership. I have heard 1400.00 being tossed around on various forums. About 250 to 300.00 to do it yourself.

Part of the reason it’s expensive is the replacement of the filter. The filter is part of the trans pan. You can buy a replacement pan with a replaceable filter and a drain as well. Makes the next change cheaper
Edit:also easier next time as well as extra capacity and better cooking of the trans as the replacement pan is aluminum instead of plastic

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[hoe...]

Holy **** you drive alot

I own a small transport company.....

Yes, correct about the replacement pans, makes it cheaper in the long run.

No need to go to dealer or use genuine fluid.



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[Stefan N]

There are cheap pan-filters out there, think this is one that fits

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZF-1087-29...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

Even the OEM with OEM fluid is ok priced https://www.ebay.com/itm/22-50-L-OR...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

 

[Wild one]

There are cheap pan-filters out there, think this is one that fits

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZF-1087-29...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

Even the OEM with OEM fluid is ok priced https://www.ebay.com/itm/22-50-L-OR...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

Those say they don't fit the trucks,but this one supposedly does Stefan

Heavy-Duty Aluminum Transmission Pan - Ram 1500 Raw (228053000)

 

[Kap1]

It's more than a couple hundred bucks to have the trans fluid changed by the dealership. I have heard 1400.00 being tossed around on various forums. About 250 to 300.00 to do it yourself.

I had my transmission fluid replaced with oem genuine one for less than couple hundred. I didn't do the filter, but just replacing the fluid is good enough for me, for at least another 30k miles.

 

[Stefan N]

Those say they don't fit the trucks,but this one supposedly does Stefan

Heavy-Duty Aluminum Transmission Pan - Ram 1500 Raw (228053000)

That was a nice looking one, but magnets?

Germans don't know Rams, but isn't the pan the same on all 8HP70!!? the sticker can say BMW I don't care

 

[Wild one]

That was a nice looking one, but magnets?

Germans don't know Rams, but isn't the pan the same on all 8HP70!!? the sticker can say BMW I don't care

That i'm not sure of,but when you punch in a truck application for the BMW pan it says it doesn't fit.I'm curious about whether it'd fit a truck though,but not curious enough to spend the money on it,lol.

 

[rsdata]

Heavy-Duty Aluminum Transmission Pan - Ram 1500 Raw (228053000)

I like this... I am going to price the fluid and see if my local garage will do the servicing if I buy this pan.

thx Wild one

 

[Ram Night]

Changing the fluid is not hard, it does take a little time. There are videos on the net on how to do it. After you install the new filter/pan you fill the trans until fluid runs out of the fill hole. Then run the engine to get the trans fluid up to a specified temp, then remove the fill plug. Then after a the fluid stops running out, put the plug in, and you are done.
Your best bet is to run OEM fluid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNo9Ln5KrOE&feature=youtu.be

 

[Bowieeeeeeeeee]

Remember this phrase ‘non-serviceable’. That’s what most new cars/trucks have for major components. The manufacturer/dealership are building main components that can not be serviced and must be replaced by a dealership. They want disposable cars, keeps the money flowing. I’ve already seen what their doing next for oil changes. Your basically are going to replace a ‘cartridge’ that has the oil and filter together. Sure it’s easy for the person that looks at a vehicle as a appliance, but those of us that like to wrench and drive will be left out. One of the main reasons I swapped my 1500 for the 2500. You can still fix stuff yourself on the HD stuff.

 

[69GWC]

What can you fix on the 2500 that you cant fix on the 1500 ?

 

[huntergreen]

Remember this phrase ‘non-serviceable’. That’s what most new cars/trucks have for major components. The manufacturer/dealership are building main components that can not be serviced and must be replaced by a dealership. They want disposable cars, keeps the money flowing. I’ve already seen what their doing next for oil changes. Your basically are going to replace a ‘cartridge’ that has the oil and filter together. Sure it’s easy for the person that looks at a vehicle as a appliance, but those of us that like to wrench and drive will be left out. One of the main reasons I swapped my 1500 for the 2500. You can still fix stuff yourself on the HD stuff.

And yet FCA will sell you a lifetime warranty.

 

[rsdata]

Heavy-Duty Aluminum Transmission Pan - Ram 1500 Raw (228053000)

I like this... I am going to price the fluid and see if my local garage will do the servicing if I buy this pan.

thx Wild one

So I picked up the aluminum pan during black Friday for less than $250 delivered. It is nice. I took it to my local auto repair place and booked a fluid change. He is going to order the gasket and the fluid. Chyrsler fluid is nearly $27/qt his price.

Anybody have a cheaper source for genuine 8 speed ZF fluid?

I am looking at Amsoil ATL (equivalent) and Redline DT6... anyone using either of these types?

 

[crazykid1994]

According to redline their d6 atf meets the requirements for the zf lifeguard 8 atf which is what zf says is recommended for all 8hp70 type transmissions


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[crazykid1994]

No idea why it double posted

 

[gypsy400]

Keep in mind that " lifetime oil " actually means: " last a little longer than the warranty"
If your going to keep the truck long term, change the fluid

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[Juniorss]

Keep in mind that " lifetime oil " actually means: " last a little longer than the warranty"
If your going to keep the truck long term, change the fluid

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Or buy a lifetime warranty and let the dealer worry about it

 

[breal201999]

Or buy a lifetime warranty and let the dealer worry about it

That's what I did!

 

[1quick1]

Remember this phrase ‘non-serviceable’. That’s what most new cars/trucks have for major components. The manufacturer/dealership are building main components that can not be serviced and must be replaced by a dealership. They want disposable cars, keeps the money flowing. I’ve already seen what their doing next for oil changes. Your basically are going to replace a ‘cartridge’ that has the oil and filter together. Sure it’s easy for the person that looks at a vehicle as a appliance, but those of us that like to wrench and drive will be left out. One of the main reasons I swapped my 1500 for the 2500. You can still fix stuff yourself on the HD stuff.

The term "non-serviceable" was just told to me as I'm on my way to take my truck into the dealership for the 5th time in 6 weeks for a leaking 8spd. So it sounds like I'm at least getting close to a replacement.

 

[ST-8]

I've owned a ton of different vehicles and transmissions and have never had a lubrication-related failure on engine, transmission, transfer case, axles..., even at higher mileage.

I trust the engineers and will not be changing out my ZF transmission fluid unless I encounter high water or unexpected maintenance requiring the transmission to be opened up.

Side note: I was reading about the ZFs on several BMW forums -- those guys can be real A-holes! "The ZF is great, but Dodge sucks and the programming has ruined them." "The ZF is wonderful in our applications, but in those sh!tty mopars it is garbage." And on and on...

Cool leased 320i, buddy.

I can 1000% believe this