A Hemi comeback..

[crash68]

It might be possible the Hemi makes a comeback. I wouldn't hold out waiting for the Hemi if your going to be in the market in the next couple years.

Ram CEO Leaves Door Open for HEMI® V8 Comeback in Ram 1500

CEO Tim Kuniskis has hinted at the possibility of the HEMI® V8 engine making a comeback in the Ram 1500 lineup in a move that could excite longtime fans. While speaking to Motor1, Kuniskis clarified that bringing back the HEMI wouldn’t be immediate due to technical and logistical challenges.

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A new engine management system will be a must but I'm guessing they'll have to make the Hemi more efficient/cleaner.

 

[NCRaineman]

Hemi needed a refresh anyways. It's 20 year old tech at this point, not really competitive anymore. Needs direct injection to be relevant against V8 offerings from GM and Ford. That would help with power, economy and emissions.

 

[turkeybird56]

Hemi needed a refresh anyways. It's 20 year old tech at this point, not really competitive anymore. Needs direct injection to be relevant against V8 offerings from GM and Ford. That would help with power, economy and emissions.

If they could do something internally to help with lubrication issues, I say heck yeah, troll in that Hemi Back. I rather have a NA engine than a forced induction engine any day of the week. OH, and trash dat dang MDS BS also. Those 2 lil tweeks be perfect.

ADDED: I can live with a few less HP to have a V8 than dat silly double turbo stuff. And the gear heads know, to keep up that power on the new Hurricane, if U R in the speed and pushing, those turbo's gonna stay spooled up. But WTH, each to their own. Like going out and buying a turbo'd 4 cylinder Chevy Truck, pulling 6,000 lbs of sail, why, lol.

All above IMHO.

 

[NCRaineman]

MDS won't be going away. It is needed to meet CAFE standards.

The "Hemi tick" yeah that would be nice to solve, but sadly that is something which typically effects higher mileage engine and, let's be honest, after 60k miles the manufacturer isn't worried about the engine anymore because it won't come back on them when something fails.

 

[Wild one]

It needs overhead cams and direct injection to really be a viable engine now

 

[turkeybird56]

It needs overhead cams and direct injection to really be a viable engine now

I hate DI, but just my opinion.

 

[Wild one]

I hate DI, but just my opinion.

If it's done right it's an okay system,but i'm not sure Stellantis would be smart enough to do it right.Alot of their engineering these days leaves abit to be desired.
Diesals have been direct injected since God was knee high to a grasshopper,with-out issues

 

[turkeybird56]

If it's done right it's an okay system,but i'm not sure Stellantis would be smart enough to do it right.Alot of their engineering these days leaves abit to be desired.
Diesals have been direct injected since God was knee high to a grasshopper,with-out issues

Yeah, but hate any type of DI on a gasser. Diesel different. Just like that Heater Grid. IMHO dat sucks. When I had Diesel, was soooo happy it used glow plugs.

 

[turkeybird56]

If it's done right it's an okay system,but i'm not sure Stellantis would be smart enough to do it right.Alot of their engineering these days leaves abit to be desired.
Diesals have been direct injected since God was knee high to a grasshopper,with-out issues

I have enough problems to even trust Stellantis to do a software update ref the traction/ECS system that NHTSA has them doing. I got my notice, BUT, I do not trust local dealer to do, and "my" dealer is 50 miles away. SO it just not gonna get done.

 

[Wild one]

Yeah, but hate any type of DI on a gasser. Diesel different. Just like that Heater Grid. IMHO dat sucks. When I had Diesel, was soooo happy it used glow plugs.

How is a diesal differant,other then compression ratio when it comes to direct injection,both need a high pressure mechanical driven pump,and an injector in the combustion chamber. I think you just hate the idea,as it's still in it's infant stages in the gas world,and us old guys hate change,lol

 

[turkeybird56]

How is a diesal differant,other then compression ratio when it comes to direct injection,both need a high pressure mechanical driven pump,and an injector in the combustion chamber. I think you just hate the idea,as it's still in it's infant stages in the gas world,and us old guys hate change,lol

1) hate change
2) hate change
3) hate change
4) too much carbon build up
5) Diesel just built stouter, takes more beating, lasts forever if U take care of it. I would still have a Diesel if I had a need. But my truck does occasional tows, hay, wood and such to include pulling trailer, but more of a sit and admire out the front door GG ride, hee hee.

 

[Wild one]

1) hate change
2) hate change
3) hate change
4) too much carbon build up
5) Diesel just built stouter, takes more beating, lasts forever if U take care of it. I would still have a Diesel if I had a need. But my truck does occasional tows, hay, wood and such to include pulling trailer, but more of a sit and admire out the front door GG ride, hee hee.

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The carbon build up is easily fixed by running another cold start injector to spray the back of the intake valve,it's only the intake valve that has a carbon issue,exhaust valves have always had a carbon build-up issue ,and a properly set up direct injection system actually miniumizes carbon build up on the exhaust valve as it's a cleaner more complete burn

 

[turkeybird56]

The carbon build up is easily fixed by running another cold start injector to spray the back of the intake valve,it's only the intake valve that has a carbon issue,exhaust valves have always had a carbon build-up issue ,and a properly set up direct injection system actually miniumizes carbon build up on the exhaust valve as it's a cleaner more complete burn

Yeah, but not think FCA did that, tho I can be wrong. I have very lil experience doing anything on Diesel beyond level 2 MX on on old M35A2. (deuce and a half)(in case you not know the nomenclature)

 

[turkeybird56]

The carbon build up is easily fixed by running another cold start injector to spray the back of the intake valve,it's only the intake valve that has a carbon issue,exhaust valves have always had a carbon build-up issue ,and a properly set up direct injection system actually miniumizes carbon build up on the exhaust valve as it's a cleaner more complete burn

adding #6) to my list: My Bighorn does not need to turn low 12's, hee hee. I think it does 32 seconds.

 

[Wild one]

Yeah, but not think FCA did that, tho I can be wrong. I have very lil experience doing anything on Diesel beyond level 2 MX on on old M35A2. (deuce and a half)(in case you not know the nomenclature)

And there in lies the issue,i don't trust stelantis to engineer a properly operating direct injection system with the engineering team they have in place now,they fired all the good engineers when idjut boy took over,hopefully Tim can rehire some of the good engineers

 

[Mojo88]

Personally, I'd like a fully loaded Longhorn, with 6.4L Hemi (configured for optimum torque rather than horsepower). Maybe OHC too.......

But no MDS and no eTorque and no Stop/Start!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mikeru]

Yeah, but hate any type of DI on a gasser. Diesel different. Just like that Heater Grid. IMHO dat sucks. When I had Diesel, was soooo happy it used glow plugs.

Glow plugs worked great in the 6.2L Chevy from the 80's. Plus there was the fun time of changing them. Often they were too carboned up to fit out of the holes. Turning the engine over would usually force them out from the compression, and if you didn't cover them with something (jacket, large shop rag, t-shirt, etc) they would shoot out of the engine bay. Fun times!

Ford switched to dual injection and that seems to be working well for them. I would have no issues with that. Actually, three of the four vehicles we currently own are DI only so I guess I don't have an issue even if it's not dual injection LOL.

 

[mikeru]

Personally, I'd like a fully loaded Longhorn, with 6.4L Hemi (configured for optimum torque rather than horsepower). Maybe OHC too.......

But no MDS and no eTorque and no Stop/Start!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately stop/start and cylinder deactivation are a part of life now for people who want to drive a gas powered vehicle. I have no idea if they would bring the etorque back with the Hemi or go with another system for stop/start but it's just a reality we need to get used to. Regardless I'll take that over any alternative EV options.

 

[Wild one]

Glow plugs worked great in the 6.2L Chevy from the 80's. Plus there was the fun time of changing them. Often they were too carboned up to fit out of the holes. Turning the engine over would usually force them out from the compression, and if you didn't cover them with something (jacket, large shop rag, t-shirt, etc) they would shoot out of the engine bay. Fun times!

Ford switched to dual injection and that seems to be working well for them. I would have no issues with that. Actually, three of the four vehicles we currently own are DI only so I guess I don't have an issue even if it's not dual injection LOL.

Neighbour a couple doors down was doing the glow plugs on his GM a few years back, even i learned some new words,and i was up the street probably a good 200ft from his place.I didn't venture down to see what he was doing till he'd slammed the hood shut and it was running again,lol

 

[NCRaineman]

Unfortunately stop/start and cylinder deactivation are a part of life now for people who want to drive a gas powered vehicle. I have no idea if they would bring the etorque back with the Hemi or go with another system for stop/start but it's just a reality we need to get used to. Regardless I'll take that over any alternative EV options.

Why I'm primarily considering a 2500 for our next truck purchase. The 1500s are being regulated into the ground but "heavy duty" vehicles are exempt from regulations so manufacturers can continue to offer gas V8s. People who do real truck work don't want to mess with hybrids or failure prone electronic systems. Powerful and reliable are what matters.