Regcabguy
Senior Member
Yes,that's correct on the coil sprung 2500 years.There was a discussion on here about slide in campers a while back. I think the general feeling was that due to their weight you almost needed a 3500.
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Yes,that's correct on the coil sprung 2500 years.There was a discussion on here about slide in campers a while back. I think the general feeling was that due to their weight you almost needed a 3500.
I have a gas powered compressor (from a suction dredge) so I can air down on dirt roads, and fill or deflate 4 tires at o nce (or 2) using a hose and valve system I set up. Can do all 4 tires from 20 to 50 psi in 13 minutes from engine off to engine on. That was what convinced me to go to the E rated tires; my towing etc. is always under the max rating (and I have probably 20,000 miles of pulling cargo or travel trailers since Feb of 2020) but I wanted a longer lasting tire to replace the Duratracks (got 35,000 iles out of them though). So I can toss the compressor in back when going offroad, the hose kit lives in the side boxes, and I can easily air the Toyos down and up as needed. Does it increase the tow "rating" to have E-rated tires? Not technically because the truck is supposed to have D rated tires. The Magic Tow Rating Calculator is not something I have found anywhere.Hey I never took into account the tires......That's not something that's been discussed before or at least I haven't came across that. Wonder what all of us are actually increasing our payload to by adding the E's or F's in some peoples case.
Can't add a leaf spring to a coil sprung rear end and even if you could it still won't legally change your payloadThe 3500 adds payload by having a second leaf spring pack. You can to the same with a 2500 truck by adding SuperSprings. Took me less than an hour to increase the payload of my 2500 truck to 4,000 lbs and with the truck on the ground - no need to jack it up.
Springs will last the lifetime of the truck and no worries about an airbag failing (and there are two that can fail) in the middle of a trip and limping home or being stuck in a town waiting for replacement parts. With my 4WD off-road vehicles I have always cared about not having a breakdown well off the beaten path and having to get a tow truck to the vehicle. Even 25 miles from the highway is one heck of a walk to try and hitchhike to the nearest town.
With the SuperSprings on my truck the bed was level when empty and level with a 3700 lb slide in camper in the bed. Greatly reduces side sway as in a turn more than half the weight is on one side of the suspension. With reduced sway the stock shocks were much more effective although for the truck I replaced them with Rancho adjustable shocks. The adjustable shocks are great at being able to tune the suspension front and rear.
How is the ride when off roading or highway ? smooth or stiff ?Can't add a leaf spring to a coil sprung rear end and even if you could it still won't legally change your payload
I would agree air bags do not "balance" the weight between front an rear axles but neither does load distribution hitches. However they both effectively decrease the amount of weight or "downforce" measured as "weight" lost form the leveraging effect that additional weight over or behind the rear axle has on the front axle. The visual effect is a "leveling" of the truck, but the effect is that it allows the front axle to maintain a proper amount of weight for safe braking and steering proposes. AIR BAGS DO NOT INCREASE a trucks payload but they will provide for safer and more controlled operation when the trucks payload is near or at its MAXIUM FACTORY LIMITS AKA GVWR or Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.The debate should not be about "legality"...the real issues are safety and insurance. There must be a viable reason that RAM derates the payload on a power wagon...surely it has to do with the off-road suspension.
More importantly, don't think for a second that your insurance company won't investigate whether the vehicle was overloaded if you get into an an accident, especially if there are any injuries. Sure, they might cover the accident, but you will be dropped immediately and good luck finding a new company to insure you. I believe this based on an in-depth discussion with my uncle who spent 12 years in claims investigation at "Flo's insurance company".
There's this huge misconception that airbags correct the weights distributed between axles...they don't. They only level...giving one the appearance of not being overloaded. Not the case.
Not convinced? Google this phrase: do airbags increase payload?
Not sure what you are asking. I have never added leafs or air bags but was responding to Elkman who has repeatedly given out misinformation on here.How is the ride when off roading or highway ? smooth or stiff ?
Oh sorry bud, i misread the other guys review, had my glasses off.Not sure what you are asking. I have never added leafs or air bags but was responding to Elkman who has repeatedly given out misinformation on here.
I don't off road but highway driving is fine. Bumps are more harsh than the 1500. Loaded with weight it smooths out
Hi. im getting a 2022 PW soon, just wondering about good and bad on putting on airbags,next year
i want to put a camper on for hunting and fishing trips. I need to pull my quad or a boat.
please let me know what you think.
Thanks
You can go forward with the short bed but if you really are ASKING you're in long bed dually territory. I would be surprised if the camper place you are buying your slide in from would even load it in a short bed 2500 for you. Long bed 3500 without question and I would recommend a dually.
Yes sir you are correct. My comment is based mainly on the weight of the load. Trying to stop an overloaded truck is not easy to do. The difference in price between a 3/4 ton and 1 ton is pennies big picture when looking at liablity aspect of having an accident with an overloaded vehicle.Payload aside, If you look at the picture of the brochure he posted, the camper is specifically designed for a short bed. He doesn’t need an 8 foot bed. A 1 ton srw would be just fine with that specific camper he posted, but that isn’t truck he’s getting at the moment.
Megacab dually is a shortbed…about the only way to get a dually shortbox haaaaa.If that camper he posted pics of won't fit in a long bed than yeah a 1 ton srw would be the way to go. I wouldn't recommend a 1 ton short bed just because the resale value on them is not good they're just not as popular.
Disagree. Airbags alone cannot transfer weight back to the front axle anywhere near as effectively as a WDH. Then entire point of a WDH is as it's name implies. Airbags only address sag and improve stability. There is a big difference.I would agree air bags do not "balance" the weight between front an rear axles but neither does load distribution hitches. However they both effectively decrease the amount of weight or "downforce" measured as "weight" lost form the leveraging effect that additional weight over or behind the rear axle has on the front axle. The visual effect is a "leveling" of the truck, but the effect is that it allows the front axle to maintain a proper amount of weight for safe braking and steering proposes. AIR BAGS DO NOT INCREASE a trucks payload but they will provide for safer and more controlled operation when the trucks payload is near or at its MAXIUM FACTORY LIMITS AKA GVWR or Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
I use both on my power wagon. I dont have any weight scale tickets to prove it, but can assure you that your thinking is spot on. The weight distribution hitch, when setup correctly, does just that…removes weight from the rear axle and places it on the front. Air bags on the other hand, just raise the rear of the vehicle and add some stability to the rear suspension…nothing for the front at all.Disagree. Airbags alone cannot transfer weight back to the front axle anywhere near as effectively as a WDH. Then entire point of a WDH is as it's name implies. Airbags only address sag and improve stability. There is a big difference.
Anyone with both on their truck and that has a trailer care to prove this one way or the other? I'd love to see the scale tickets...