Air filter question

[Hollabakzach23]

So I was just wondering as I have not done much research on it but have seen it done and am kid of interested in it. What all would be needed to replace my stock air box with the big carb style air filters?

 

[Okiespaniel]

So I was just wondering as I have not done much research on it but have seen it done and am kid of interested in it. What all would be needed to replace my stock air box with the big carb style air filters?

Do you mean a round 14x3 air filter?

 

[Hollabakzach23]

Yeah sorry for not specifying!!

 

[Hotroder383]

You won't be able to get a very tall one on it as the TB sits under the cowl a bit. At least on my 96 it dose. and there is no place on the TB for the hold down stud. But if you were set on a round filter you could get a short one and work out a hold down. Personally I'd just go with a K&N CAI =)

 

[nussdawg395]

nothing major. Go to your auto parts store and they have the adapter. Its just a (usually) chrome dish for bottom and top, an s bolt and wing nut. Remove your stock air box then put bottom plate on throttle body, s bolt, throw your filter, then top plate, then wingnut, DONE!

 

[Badger]

Your throttle body has a place to put a stud. It's tight but it fits. I think the stud needs to be bent to meet up correctly wit the assembly. I haven't done it yet but I've definately stared at it plenty.

 

[Okiespaniel]

Ok...since you want a 14x3 here's what you'll need to to do.

If you buy the A/C with the dropped base you'll need an a/c spacer about 3/4 inch tall so your base will clear your tb linkage. You'll also need an extra air cleaner to tb gasket.
As stated you'll need to bend up an "s" bolt.
I fabbed up a breather hose for the stock inlet on my valvecover using the old hose and some plumbing adapters and a molded PCV elbow from a parts store.
Installation/removal is a bit tricky due to space. You will need to wire tie the wiring harnesses back along the cowl and cut the head off a small screw sticking down from the cowl. Also make sure the rubber seal from the hood to the cowl is glued in place. Otherwise rain water can get in the AC.
To install my filter, I have to slide the adapter, lower plate element in there, then screw in my s bolt. Then I can place the top on and the wing nut. I found super gluing the gaskets to the adapter makes for less work.
I know this was a bit long but I wanted to give you as much details as possible. I prefer this setup to the K&N fipk I had.

EDIT: Since somebody will probably ask me what it looks like:

 

[Hollabakzach23]

Okay I was at autozone an was going to pick up this edelbrock kit they had with the adapter and then I have a little breather for my valve cover already. With the adapter it seemed like it was about an eighth of an inch too large for the throttle body. Is there a better fitting adapter or what kind of gasket should be ran between the throttle body and the adapter?

 

[Hollabakzach23]

Ok...since you want a 14x3 here's what you'll need to to do.

If you buy the A/C with the dropped base you'll need an a/c spacer about 3/4 inch tall so your base will clear your tb linkage. You'll also need an extra air cleaner to tb gasket.
As stated you'll need to bend up an "s" bolt.
I fabbed up a breather hose for the stock inlet on my valvecover using the old hose and some plumbing adapters and a molded PCV elbow from a parts store.
Installation/removal is a bit tricky due to space. You will need to wire tie the wiring harnesses back along the cowl and cut the head off a small screw sticking down from the cowl. Also make sure the rubber seal from the hood to the cowl is glued in place. Otherwise rain water can get in the AC.
To install my filter, I have to slide the adapter, lower plate element in there, then screw in my s bolt. Then I can place the top on and the wing nut. I found super gluing the gaskets to the adapter makes for less work.
I know this was a bit long but I wanted to give you as much details as possible. I prefer this setup to the K&N fipk I had.

EDIT: Since somebody will probably ask me what it looks like:

Thank you for that explanation! And thank you also for the pic I love that look!!

 

[Okiespaniel]

Okay I was at autozone an was going to pick up this edelbrock kit they had with the adapter and then I have a little breather for my valve cover already. With the adapter it seemed like it was about an eighth of an inch too large for the throttle body. Is there a better fitting adapter or what kind of gasket should be ran between the throttle body and the adapter?

I bought an aluminum adapter off ebay. Everything fits just like it should.

 

[Hollabakzach23]

I bought an aluminum adapter off ebay. Everything fits just like it should.

Hm okay I have to check eBay then!

 

[Okiespaniel]

Hm okay I have to check eBay then!

Is your Edelbrock a recessed base or flat base?

 

[Hollabakzach23]

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4_ZLKomoZcNefxc01lVsn2WnnS2r1-lNzQ7hoiemRuAcqeplA

Now this is just a quick google search not the actual one as I did not pull the trigger on it since I wanted to ask someone who knew a little more about it. but it looks like that only centered not offset.

 

[Okiespaniel]

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4_ZLKomoZcNefxc01lVsn2WnnS2r1-lNzQ7hoiemRuAcqeplA

Now this is just a quick google search not the actual one as I did not pull the trigger on it since I wanted to ask someone who knew a little more about it. but it looks like that only centered not offset.

That looks like the old K&N offset base for earlier 2nd gen Dodge Rams.
They made those for a few years back in the day, who knows maybe they still make them.
That is not a recessed base, per se'. Recessed bases are centered on the carburetor. In my application I bought a plain old same old 14x3 universal fits all 5 1/8 diameter 4 bbl carbs.

Not that you couldn't use that offset base...would move the filter forward. Will it clear ?

 

[Hollabakzach23]

Okay that was just a quick google image. The one I was looking at getting would have been recessed in the middle of the base. It also had the 5 1/8 diameter but the issue I was having was when I put it on top of my throttle body it seemed as if it was loose and too big almost. So I was wondering if there was some sort of gasket or spacer almost that would go between the base and the TB??

 

[Okiespaniel]

Okay that was just a quick google image. The one I was looking at getting would have been recessed in the middle of the base. It also had the 5 1/8 diameter but the issue I was having was when I put it on top of my throttle body it seemed as if it was loose and too big almost. So I was wondering if there was some sort of gasket or spacer almost that would go between the base and the TB??

If the weather holds out this weekend, I will be removing my filter to adjust my TV cable. I'll try to snap some pics for a DYI.

 

[Hollabakzach23]

Sweet that would be greatly appreciated man!

 

[Okiespaniel]

Sweet that would be greatly appreciated man!

Just for you sir.... Enjoy!

http://www.ramforum.com/f77/14x3-air-cleaner-install-15030/#post283600

 

[Hollabakzach23]

Just checked it out! I couldn't have asked for more!!