Coolant leaking in my engine and it's not starting up

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Hay, I'm real sorry about your Father, I've read this whole post, do you have a spark, put the OEM plugs back in it replace the wires, if any your heads are leaking you will have antifreeze in the oil, you said you changed it and there was none, antifreeze will come out first, you may have something going on with the electronic ignition, you need to verify you have a spark, you said the plugs were soaked probably with fuel.
no I did the alternative test I took out a spark plug put in the wire which in new I just replace the wires I put a I modified the ignition I put in a Subaru coil I put in a performance wires 8 1/2 millimeter all that spark plugs distributor cap rotor.no I ordered new OEM spark plugs the ones I took out Friday were there probably for a 60000 miles who knows but I have the new autolite OEM copper one with the resistors come in tomorrow along with the Stan's coolant / radiator pressure testing kit see what I mean I just dump money into it dude so the spark plugs I have in right now of the new / dirty ish Platinum twin-tip densows I put in Friday afternoon and I'm but I took out the spark plugs again Saturday afternoon and wipe them all down clean them cuz they were all soaking wiped inside the spark plug wire so they are dry now in the ignition fine like I said I did the test put the plug in the wire grounded it and I have remote starter so I just hit the remote starter and every time it went to go turn over I got spark coming out of the spark plug and you got to remember the spark plug was soaking wet and it was still sparking. So it's all drained out now should I go try that right now though spark plugs or just wait till tomorrow and then put in the OEM copper ones and new ones

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Hay, I'm real sorry about your Father, I've read this whole post, do you have a spark, put the OEM plugs back in it replace the wires, if any your heads are leaking you will have antifreeze in the oil, you said you changed it and there was none, antifreeze will come out first, you may have something going on with the electronic ignition, you need to verify you have a spark, you said the plugs were soaked probably with fuel.
Why or how would coolant get in the oil with a cracked head other than by the piston rings??
If it bypass the rings it wouldn't hydra lock

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When is the last time you had this running? I assume not that long ago. Good gas good plugs it has spark and no blockage of intake air it will start unless your not telling something its gonna run

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Hay, I'm real sorry about your Father, I've read this whole post, do you have a spark, put the OEM plugs back in it replace the wires, if any your heads are leaking you will have antifreeze in the oil, you said you changed it and there was none, antifreeze will come out first, you may have something going on with the electronic ignition, you need to verify you have a spark, you said the plugs were soaked probably with fuel.
I just tried I don't think the spark plugs were firing up the right way because it almost sounds like the battery was too low to start it one thing that was different was before when I used to start it regularly after trying to start it there'd be at the end a little bit of that sweet white smoke coming out of the exhaust none of that came out this time since I drained it all but it sound better it just felt weak the electrical I'm going to charge the battery to make sure. It wasn't unplugged or anything but can't hurt I have it right here the battery charger and I think I'm just going to wait till tomorrow they should be here by the afternoon the new spark plugs I'll put those bad boys in and then try it should fire right up

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Hay, I'm real sorry about your Father, I've read this whole post, do you have a spark, put the OEM plugs back in it replace the wires, if any your heads are leaking you will have antifreeze in the oil, you said you changed it and there was none, antifreeze will come out first, you may have something going on with the electronic ignition, you need to verify you have a spark, you said the plugs were soaked probably with fuel.
No everything was soaked with coolant no fuel I didn't smell any fuel at all actually the first thing I did was turn the key and listen to the fuel pump make sure I was getting fuel first that's another thing that I literally just put in the best delphi fuel pump that they make for that thing I just put it in about 10 days ago with new connectors and fuel lines fuel line from the pump all the way to the engine so that's all new all been replaced recently.Saturday morning before all this I learned about all this in this all literally started I just had replaced the crossover fuel injection line for the fuel rails that had gotten cracked it was the original which is discontinued they don't even make the fuel railassembly for that any more I called the dealership looked it up on Mopar nothing so I bought high pressured fuel line and some clamps and just did it then right after is when I put the fuel pump relay in the negative battery cable screwed on the gas cap you know what I mean started it up and then that's when it all started happening before that dude it was running strong like the fastest has ever been since all the new parts and the modifications.

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No everything was soaked with coolant no fuel I didn't smell any fuel at all actually the first thing I did was turn the key and listen to the fuel pump make sure I was getting fuel first that's another thing that I literally just put in the best delphi fuel pump that they make for that thing I just put it in about 10 days ago with new connectors and fuel lines fuel line from the pump all the way to the engine so that's all new all been replaced recently.Saturday morning before all this I learned about all this in this all literally started I just had replaced the crossover fuel injection line for the fuel rails that had gotten cracked it was the original which is discontinued they don't even make the fuel railassembly for that any more I called the dealership looked it up on Mopar nothing so I bought high pressured fuel line and some clamps and just did it then right after is when I put the fuel pump relay in the negative battery cable screwed on the gas cap you know what I mean started it up and then that's when it all started happening before that dude it was running strong like the fastest has ever been since all the new parts and the modifications.

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Turn key on then se if fuel comes out of that valve stem on the fuel rail

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No everything was soaked with coolant no fuel I didn't smell any fuel at all actually the first thing I did was turn the key and listen to the fuel pump make sure I was getting fuel first that's another thing that I literally just put in the best delphi fuel pump that they make for that thing I just put it in about 10 days ago with new connectors and fuel lines fuel line from the pump all the way to the engine so that's all new all been replaced recently.Saturday morning before all this I learned about all this in this all literally started I just had replaced the crossover fuel injection line for the fuel rails that had gotten cracked it was the original which is discontinued they don't even make the fuel railassembly for that any more I called the dealership looked it up on Mopar nothing so I bought high pressured fuel line and some clamps and just did it then right after is when I put the fuel pump relay in the negative battery cable screwed on the gas cap you know what I mean started it up and then that's when it all started happening before that dude it was running strong like the fastest has ever been since all the new parts and the modifications.

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I've told you everything Dan everything there's other things that I bought and did to it but that's just modifications that would do nothing but the last time I drove it was Friday afternoon and then I put the spark plugs and I didn't go out and then Saturday I went out there about 6 a.m. did the crossover fuel rail line and I've been dealing with it ever since

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When my clamp broke, it soaked the engine with antifreeze when driving. Wouldn't leak sitting still.
 
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When my clamp broke, it soaked the engine with antifreeze when driving. Wouldn't leak sitting still.
What clamp was that exactly on the bypass hose or the cooling line

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Bottom radiator hose clamp on the radiator - passenger side.
Could be a bypass hose that failed but again, none of these will let water into a cylinder.
 
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Bottom radiator hose clamp on the radiator - passenger side.
Could be a bypass hose that failed but again, none of these will let water into a cylinder.
I'm going with the the manifold man I'm hoping if not something else but I think it's in the manifold sales replace that think I'll be all right hopefully it ain't the heads if it is thanks to Dan 98 I just found a nice pair of remanufactured heads from Florida no core charge shipping is free on eBay things are mint they look brand new 429 bro great deal

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If your spark plugs are drenched in coolant, stop try to start the engine as it's not going to happen and it's possible to damage the engine (if it hasn't happened already). The head gaskets need to be replaced.
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Sounds like Head and Intake Gaskets. But w/o being there and doing the tear down to see and trace, we R all just guessing on the info U post. And they R all Guesses. IMHO...

White smoke/sweet smell is Head Gaskets, unless head cracked, heck could even be a cracked block, only a Tear Down will reveal all, again, all IMHO...


BUT, I am no mechanic, last thing I tore down was a 327 Moons ago, and a 283 that neighbor had, who tore down, put back together, and asked about extra parts in can to include a push rod. SO U really need someone to assist you/or do and tear down all and look. But yer ride, yer money.

U might find a re manufactured engine somewhere U can drop in, but none of that stuff is on the cheap to include tear down IF U cannot do. GL on yer task there.
 
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I I just tried now because of Dan 98 gave me that info I drained all the coolant out of my engine and it actually it help like I said there wasn't any white sweet smoke this time it sounded better just you can tell like it wasn't getting the right amount of Spock because of spark plugs all been fouled up all of them but I'm saying when I put the new spark plugs in tomorrow so has eight brand new copper spark plugs in it and all the fluids drained out of it I need to get it started head gaskets if I'm going to put head gaskets in it I might as well put new heads in it I think it would be cheaper and since this happened Saturday I've only tried to start it like six times and just turn the key and it usually turns right over I don't keep trying

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Don't run it with a dry block, bad things happen quicker than you think.
 

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I just want to make sure I know all the coolant out of the engine do I take out the spark plugs and clean the heads and wipe them down they had me and been used yet I put him in Friday afternoon in the only used a gut is me trying to start it up less than a dozen times since it started Saturday morning but I know they've been fouled because of the fluid and plus when I pulled them out there were there were all black already on the Platinum tips so keep the cat halfway on the radiator and once the engine turns over go add a little bit of water or coolant then turn on the heater so I know when it's out of either 1 I just want to make sure brother

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Be careful removing the intake use a hammer and punch to hit straight down on head of bolts before you try turning them this will break some croson free so bolts dont break and leave distributor tight no reason to remove it you dont even want to turn it trust me

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Be careful removing the intake use a hammer and punch to hit straight down on head of bolts before you try turning them this will break some croson free so bolts dont break and leave distributor tight no reason to remove it you dont even want to turn it trust me

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I'm taking my old spark plugs out now soaked with water I mean it's pouring out of certain spark plug the wires the boot hey I'll show you one not to boot this Rock club064f20253ce1bf0d2b5495f0decce917.jpg6ecef894f855d63cf585ee72bb7a9e43.jpg092334a1f1b97d86fffa6c437374ff98.jpg9b060bc09d9edbb2594e634b24326611.jpg

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Poring out of cylinder trough spark plug holes

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Poring out of cylinder trough spark plug holes

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U should probably not waist time trying to start it just take it apart to fix it

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Poring out of cylinder trough spark plug holes

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No when I took the spark plug out the spark plug was dripping a lot of water off of it and then the boot the spark plug boot literally I poured water out of the end of the spark plug boot but no water is coming out of the cylinder though but that's a lot of water brother

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No when I took the spark plug out the spark plug was dripping a lot of water off of it and then the boot the spark plug boot literally I poured water out of the end of the spark plug boot but no water is coming out of the cylinder though but that's a lot of water brother

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Coolant is only from outside of engine

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