Eibach pro lift, 5100s, 6112s, the list goes on.

[hodge-xj]

So in lieu of my current front end situation I've been shopping around at all my options to replace my struts. Obviously there's a balance between price and quality which is always a juggle. Ive been searching and at this point have come to terms with spending a bit more up front and being done with it. I'm open to input and ideas, because well...nobody likes throwing money away. So here's my ideas

1st- Eibach pro lift kit- front struts, rear shocks, front and rear coils. Called them today, rep said that it's about a 10% spring rate increase front and rear. 2.75 front lift/ 1" rear. Only thing is if it's not model specific I may have to see how the coils sit under the diesel since it might have been r&d with a hemi. But the front still has options with the struts like bilstein so it may just be trial and error. Its new to market so there's squat for info. 713$ out the door is enticing and eibach is quality, but it's new and not tested long term by consumers. Might guinea pig it.

2nd-bilstein 5100s no need to elaborate here paired with icon rear coils to retain some rake. 650$ ish

3rd- 6112s/5100s same as above 900$ ish

All these would run similar in price, I'm planning on zone ucas down the road so I'm looking to retain 2.3-2.75 of lift. Mostly curious on thoughts on the new kit. Obviously bilstein is the old stand by, but I'm not blown away by them enough to not consider other choices. It would be one thing if these trucks rode like ass, but man I'll really kick myself if I ruined that.

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[JB1]

I have the 6112’s and my truck rides very smooth and I’m on 37” MT’s

As you say they do have settings for the eco diesel

 

[hodge-xj]

I have the 6112’s and my truck rides very smooth and I’m on 37” MT’s

As you say they do have settings for the eco diesel

I keep comin full circle to these. I mean you can't beat large body displacement shocks. I might just spend the extra up front and get a pair knowing they've been on the market and have no real negative reports at all. Pair them with 5100s and the eibach rear coils and be done. I'm still not sure I'm convinced that 2.75" of lift rides good, after my experiences in my f150 im a little gun shy to go through all the effort to do this only to be less than happy. I'm commuting 700 miles a week right now so I would really like to retain the good ride these trucks have.

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[JB1]

I understand your concerns, if you were in Houston I would take you for a ride in mine

 

[Joes1500]

Just my 2 cents.

Those 6112s at 2.75 with the weight of those 37s , will feel stiffer with lighter/smaller tires at the same setting.

 

[hodge-xj]

I'll only be able to squeeze 2.3 since I have the ecodiesel. Hard to dispute tried and true results from bilstein. I want to believe in eibach, especially for 750 for what could be a quality little lift. But having wasted money on their coils on my f150 I'm hesitant.

Coming from 2500s and dealing with carli, thuren and synergy, on a personal level I learned a lot. So I've become picky with my running gear. Tho I know unless you're full custom tuned shocks you're compromising. I personally prefer a softer spring, with a heavier valving and I let the shocks work and earn their pay. Not trying to reinvent the wheel just hoping to do this and be happy the first time.

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[JB1]

Just my 2 cents.

Those 6112s at 2.75 with the weight of those 37s , will feel stiffer with lighter/smaller tires at the same setting.

I have only run these 6112’s with 37’s so I can’t say personally. However, we have a few members here with the 6112’s and 275 tires, some with 35’s and every owner seems to like the ride. That said, ride comfort is all a personal opinion, kinda like a mattress, some may like firm so may like soft.

Do a search using “6112” and you’ll find the owners that have these here. It’s not many of us and I think that’s mainly due to the budget friendly 5100.

 

[hodge-xj]

Already searched a ton, likewise there's minimal feedback. 5100s usually take the cake strictly for affordability. Google brings the searches right back to the forum pages. Obviously it's all relative to personal preference, and I'm sounding picky but I'm just looking to do one and done. Buy once cry once. Gotta research more tonight and establish a functional budget on this.

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[MidwestExpress]

I hadn't heard about that Eibach Pro lift kit until this post. I just searched around a bit, and couldn't find much info on it. For the price, I'm curious how it performs. I like that it includes front coilovers + rear springs & shocks all in one kit. I also like the lift height of 2.75" front/1" rear. I'm assuming that it's a step down, performance wise, from the similar Carli Commuter(Fox) & Icon Stage 2 kits. Hopefully, they'll be some people to give it a shot and report back on it....

For the OP, I've been running the 5100s (front & rear) for about 6 years now. I pulled them off a 2012 I had and put them on my current 2014 when I first bought the truck. They're a decent, cheap(ish) option. But, my recommendation would be to go with something better if you can afford to from the start. I've been wanting to replace them with a better kit for awhile now, but the money situation hasn't allowed it. They're doing an ok job, but I do find the road ride to be a little stiff for my taste and the off road performance isn't really much to write about IMO.

 

[hodge-xj]

Honestly I think the eibach front will be comparable to the 5100s with the exception of the the coils up front.I ran 5100s on my ford with eibach coils and wasn't impressed enough to warrant them again. The eibach coils ended up just being monsterously stiff and i was riding around at full droop all the time. Made for a horrible ride. I know a lot of "harshness" feels like it is from stiffer springs but it could be from.minimal droop travel at 2.8 setting or because you're riding in the stiffer part of the valving at the top of the 5100s stroke. Being digressive i think theres alot of small factors contributing to the ride. Coming from a thuren and carli based 2500 it's hard to continue to downgrade my ride quality and convince myself to be happy. We all work hard enough for our money, why waste it. I'll probably give the eibach rear coils a try, for the price i can't even begin to scoff at that. The 6112s seem like the best option for near coilover performance and ride quality at a lower price point. Rear will be 5100s, I have no complaints with them when they are utilized in a normal configuration, but I don't like the way they ride as an adjustable strut. I drive 700miles during my weekly commute and than am always going during the weekends. If the truck was a secondary vehicle id be much less particular, but seeing as this truck pulls double duty I'm gonna be not picky. Just gotta pay to play. Either way, for less than a grand I'll have 6112s, 5100s and rear coils. Than ucas, than the list goes on and on lol

I hadn't heard about that Eibach Pro lift kit until this post. I just searched around a bit, and couldn't find much info on it. For the price, I'm curious how it performs. I like that it includes front coilovers + rear springs & shocks all in one kit. I also like the lift height of 2.75" front/1" rear. I'm assuming that it's a step down, performance wise, from the similar Carli Commuter(Fox) & Icon Stage 2 kits. Hopefully, they'll be some people to give it a shot and report back on it....

For the OP, I've been running the 5100s (front & rear) for about 6 years now. I pulled them off a 2012 I had and put them on my current 2014 when I first bought the truck. They're a decent, cheap(ish) option. But, my recommendation would be to go with something better if you can afford to from the start. I've been wanting to replace them with a better kit for awhile now, but the money situation hasn't allowed it. They're doing an ok job, but I do find the road ride to be a little stiff for my taste and the off road performance isn't really much to write about IMO.

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[MidwestExpress]

[QUOTE="hodge-xj, post: 1782577, member: 13778"Either way, for less than a grand I'll have 6112s, 5100s and rear coils."

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That seems like a good, safe way to go at that price point. The 6112s are beefy and I've haven't seen much, if anything, said bad about them by the people who use them.

 

[mike19950]

I wonder if the eibach struts and springs paired together on the front would be ok since they were designed for each other? I am probably going to go that route on mine to replace the spacers that were on my truck when I bought it.

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[hodge-xj]

They should be pretty good together. The characteristics of a longer and firmer spring should ride better than even a preloaded spring and 5100s. Shock itself is very similar and they even say the springs are compatible with 5100s. If you end up going that route keep everyone posted! I really am rooting for the eibach kit, but I'm leery after my personal experience on my f150. That being said I think my expectations are different than most.

The more I read and research and discuss on here the more I think I'm talking myself into the 6112s. This diesel is heavy and it really pushes through this stock suspension easily. Unfortunately I don't have the budget to drop on the eibach kit and try it, with the mindset that if upgrade to the 6112s if need be. Tho I'm definitely gonna run their rear springs and see how they work.

My biggest fear is running at 2.7 lift. Not for reliability concerns, but ride quality. Idk how much droop these trucks have stock. Once you near 1" or less of down travel ride quality is shot. Kinda similar to a chevy ifs with torsion bars cranked. Been there done and over that.

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[Joes1500]

I have read in several different places , guys saying the springs that come with the 6112's are made by eibach.

 

[hodge-xj]

I have read in several different places , guys saying the springs that come with the 6112's are made by eibach.

Correct as far as I have read as well. Apparently there's very few actual coil production companies. Eibach makes springs for tons of companies that just Rebrand them, since they have them made to their specs. This is what I've read, so how much truth it holds is debatable. I'm still extremely tempted to give eibach a shot for their entire kit. I mean it comes with everything I need, minus top hats for the struts for $713. 6112s alone are $625.

My logic is the springs for the front were "most likely" hemi model based. Its the most specd motor in the ram as per the rep. So hopefully with the heavier eco diesel the springs won't sit too high or ride overly stiff for my preference. Worst case I could reuse oem coils and adjust via the clips like a 5100 and save for 6112s, best case is I rant and rave back on here. As I keep referencing I'm just nervous the ride will suffer like my ford did on the springs. That was a result of lack of droop more than stiff ride or anything. Heck, if someone could measure droop travel from ride height at oem I could settle my inner conflict. Or even someone on 5100s @ 2.8 setting. So long as I retain some useable droop travel up front ill grab the kit and give it some good seat time. Being in NJ the winters and constant state of disrepair are similar to running off highway at times. My wallet is burning a hole in my pocket and the truck could use some tlc.

Judging by the lift height difference between the gas and diesel settings on the 6112 instructions I think the diesel will help with the heavier spring rate and may sit lower than the 2.7 total height. My wallet and needs tell me this kit will be more than sufficient, but my wants scream spend it all.

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[Joes1500]

I have been thinking about this same thing for about a year now. I paid close to 60k for my truck , and I have no desire to ruin the way it rides.

I believe 100% that the higher you go with any strut style lift on our truck the more the ride is going to suffer.

I also am pretty set that most of the complaints about the stiffness from the 5100s and the Fox's , is from the wheel and tire change that accompanied the strut change. It seems like everyone wants heavy 10 ply tires . They are going to ride alot stiffer then the stock tires .

I'm also in the process of saving . But when I get there I believe I will do the 6112's set at around 2 inch, and a 1.5 spacer in the back with 5100's. I have a leer cap so the 1.5 spacer will give me the 1-2 inch rake that I think looks good on this body style.

 

[hodge-xj]

Agreed. Granted I'm running a tradesman but I bought this thing because it rode phenomenally and gets tremendous mileage compared to my ecoboost. I don't need to go and slap some buck board riding springs and shocks on this thing and ruin my enjoyment. I average 35-40k a year driving so I don't wanna hate driving it. Ride is subjective, I was spoiled in my 2500 on thuren and carli goodies and became a firm believer in large capacity shocks. The damping is just more refined and supple when valved identically to a smaller shock. Plus, I'd be lucky enough to have the vibrations and uca issues at max height. 2.3 on the 6112s is like a nice middle ground. The eibach rear coils are dirt cheap and offer a bit of rate increase and 1" lift. I'll be adding them and 5100s in the rear. I think I'll end up with 6112s here soon unless I fall into some info that really sways me. Trying to get suspension figured out so I can save for those gde tunes.

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[JB1]

When I was planning on just a level kit, I was going to do 6112’s set to 2.6, ICON rear 1.5” coils and Bilstein 5160 reservoir shocks.

 

[Joes1500]

When I was planning on just a level kit, I was going to do 6112’s set to 2.6, ICON rear 1.5” coils and Bilstein 5160 reservoir shocks.

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Is this your set up now ? If so how is the ride compared to stock ?

CV angles look great if that's the 2.6 setting

Thanks

 

[JB1]

Is this your set up now ? If so how is the ride compared to stock ?

CV angles look great if that's the 2.6 setting

Thanks

That’s member @PDXRam truck on stock tires.

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/alright-guys-bilsteins-post-your-pics.79370/page-137#post-1711042

I have the 6112’s with my BDS 6” and Zone UCA and 37’s


Here’s mine below