pacofortacos
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IF you even mention Lemon Law, all work will cease on your truck. It will not be touched until the case is resolved - if it even qualifies.
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Thanks for the information. I don't think this is a lemon law situation at this point. I've got documentation on the issue and will continue documenting throughout the process. I've pressed for the loaner but keep hearing that I will get one when it becomes available, which from the latest discussion, should be this week. SA confirmed that a new engine will be installed. Trying to remain patient, but not having the approval 2 weeks after the issue is irritating. I understand the red tape and the procedures which always slows progress. Hopefully I'll hear back on the approval and loaner early this week.You can't Lemon Law something due to one problem, albeit major problem! You have to document ongoing problems and not just one. This does not even come close to qualifying.
I'm sorry you had this happen, and the 5.7 is overall a good engine so as another typed this is not common, but can happen. Lemon Law thoughts are very premature. Keep good documentation JUST IN CASE but this in itself certainly doesn't mean you bought a lemon.
And as for the person with the 2002 with same problem, that was 20 years ago, non Eagle Head engine and I wouldn't use that one incident of yours and this one 20 years later to condemn these engines, nor his truck as a lemon.
I would insist on rental/loaner though.
Also if it does indeed require a new engine, I would bet big money a NEW engine is what it gets. The dealership isn't going to save by finding a scrap yard engine. They bill corporate for parts and labor for warranty issues and get their profit too. You'll pop the hood and see that you clearly have a new engine.
Regular Hemi.Was this a regular hemi or E torque?
In this situation I don't believe its a lemon law issue for you. Even if they agreed to a buyback you might find it hard to get another with the exact equipment because of the current inventory issues (my dealer has exactly zero 5th gens at the moment). Unless, of course, the equipment package of the replacement isn't a concern.Regular Hemi.
No mention of any extension on the warranty, as of yet, but I did get a loaner and the paperwork for the new engine was submitted on Tuesday. Initial estimate is that I could get the truck back as early as next Friday. More likely to be the following week, but seeing progress and having wheels to use is certainly welcomed.In this situation I don't believe its a lemon law issue for you. Even if they agreed to a buyback you might find it hard to get another with the exact equipment because of the current inventory issues (my dealer has exactly zero 5th gens at the moment). Unless, of course, the equipment package of the replacement isn't a concern.
I noticed they were installing a new engine in to a Grand Wagoneer when I was there last week. The tech. said Ram was giving the owner a 150,000 mile warranty on the replacement. I don't know if there are special circumstances involved or not, but that's a benefit that would be hard to pass up for me.
Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, factory dual exhaust, 18” wheels. Build date: 3 June 2018. Now at 79291 miles
I agree a blown engine is a easy fix But I would insist on a new crate Long Block engine from Ram or give me a new truck ! the choice they would have from me is one or the other!Not all engine failures result in a loud bang, with fluids puking everywhere. In the race and repair world, that would be called "grenading the engine". That also typically makes a LOT more racket.....think of a midget in the oil pan with a jackhammer.
From your description, what it sounds to me like that you most likely spun a rod bearing. Rod bearings are semi circular pieces of babbitt steel, and when the clearances get to an excessive degree, one bearing will ride up into the other one. Right before this happens, you will hear a clicking, then once it's good and wedged, it will seize the engine up.
Why would this happen on such a fresh engine, you might ask. Well, the most common cause is when the engine block is cast, they likely didn't get it perfectly clean and free of casting flash, sand, etc. These impurities will find their way into the engine bearings, and cause big problems. This is EXACTLY why Hyundai and Kia are replacing so many engines right now.
I wouldn't be so quick to get rid of the truck, either. I WOULD lemon law it if the repair time will be over 30 days. But a blown engine is a very easy problem to solve, as long as they can get the parts. I would however INSIST on a brand new engine. Don't let them talk you into a remanufactured engine, as your truck has such low mileage on it.
SA confirmed new long block from Ram. Thanks for the info!I agree a blown engine is a easy fix But I would insist on a new crate Long Block engine from Ram or give me a new truck ! the choice they would have from me is one or the other!
The reason for long block engine over short block is short block does not come with the heads ! where as long block is with heads on it ! the other reason is if the cause was a casting or cleaning issue crap could still be caught in the head oil galleys of your old heads so reason for long block !
Glad to hear that ! since they are putting in long block i wouldn't be worried about the truck i would drive it while under warranty and 6 months before warranty is up I would asses what issues you have had with the truck over the years then decide weather to sell or keep it !SA confirmed new long block from Ram. Thanks for the info!