Flip down rear seats done!

[Omicron]

That's all I needed to hear. Now I'm definitely doing this. As soon as winter goes away.

Thank you sir.

I just got done doing the other seat, all told it took me about an hour for both seats. Hardest part was getting the damn seat bolts out, boy were they in tight! And I'm glad I did this before they had a chance to corrode in place, all of them when removed allowed me to see out the bottom of the truck to the ground underneath! Given a bit of time and weather, those bolts would have rusted in place. Crazy.

To give you an idea of how much room is back there, I now have 2 soft side briefcases filled with stuff, a large first aid kit, an old pair of comfy tennis shoes (one never knows when you might wind up having to walk a considerable distance!) and a long handled ice scraper. Could easily put a rifle back there too, and will I'm sure from time to time.

Great mod! Props to 2013Ram1500 for initially figuring this out!

 

[Omicron]

I will be using the Kicker 10" subwoofer behind the driver's seat in the storage area underneath. How could I make this work with that sub being there?

Not sure I'm understanding your question. The seat should unbolt regardless of the sub being in the under seat storage area. Once you've done that and put the spacers in place, you bolt the seat down again, and can now access the space behind the seat back once the seat bottom is raised enough to all the back hooks to release.

 

[dmullen]

Not sure I'm understanding your question. The seat should unbolt regardless of the sub being in the under seat storage area. Once you've done that and put the spacers in place, you bolt the seat down again, and can now access the space behind the seat back once the seat bottom is raised enough to all the back hooks to release.

I was thinking that the sub enclosure uses a couple of the rear seat bolts as well and I was wondering if the spacers or larger bolts to increase height would affect it's installation. However the more I think about it this shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Omicron]

I was thinking that the sub enclosure uses a couple of the rear seat bolts as well and I was wondering if the spacers or larger bolts to increase height would affect it's installation. However the more I think about it this shouldn't be a problem.

Most likely not.

 

[2013Ram1500]

Thank you sir.

I just got done doing the other seat, all told it took me about an hour for both seats. Hardest part was getting the damn seat bolts out, boy were they in tight! And I'm glad I did this before they had a chance to corrode in place, all of them when removed allowed me to see out the bottom of the truck to the ground underneath! Given a bit of time and weather, those bolts would have rusted in place. Crazy.

To give you an idea of how much room is back there, I now have 2 soft side briefcases filled with stuff, a large first aid kit, an old pair of comfy tennis shoes (one never knows when you might wind up having to walk a considerable distance!) and a long handled ice scraper. Could easily put a rifle back there too, and will I'm sure from time to time.

Great mod! Props to 2013Ram1500 for initially figuring this out!

It is much nicer having that little bit more space back there for sure. I can't take credit for this though, I found out how to do it in another thread but made a video to show everyone!

 

[man n black]

@ Omicron. ..are you on Zilvia as well? (OmiKron)

Great mod...I'll be doing this soon. Thanks to 1500 for figuring this out....my dogs love you

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[jbr]

Just did this today. I used 3/4 hex nuts. The height of the nuts is less than 3/4, but still works. I think using the nuts would be a little easier than the washers because it would probably be a little difficult to keep them stacked when putting them under the bolt that holds down the seat/seat belt.

 

[Omicron]

@ Omicron. ..are you on Zilvia as well? (OmiKron)

Nope, but I'm on a LOT of other sites, as Omicron.

 

[Omicron]

Just did this today. I used 3/4 hex nuts. The height of the nuts is less than 3/4, but still works. I think using the nuts would be a little easier than the washers because it would probably be a little difficult to keep them stacked when putting them under the bolt that holds down the seat/seat belt.

That was my thought too on the nuts versus washers. Plus a little less visually obvious (don't look like a stack of washers once in place) and a little less expensive. Did you paint them too?

 

[jbr]

That was my thought too on the nuts versus washers. Plus a little less visually obvious (don't look like a stack of washers once in place) and a little less expensive. Did you paint them too?

I didn't paint the hex nuts.

 

[BlownGP]

Damn, I for got to this weekend.. And I was at home depot and lowes for stuff around the house.. hahaha

 

[Mr. Michael]

I've seen threads with this done using a long strip of wood or steel with holes drilled in the ends so that it fits under the entire seat "rail", instead of just the corners. Does anyone think the stability of the seat is compromised by just supporting under the corners of each seat instead of having the entire "rail" bolted to the frame?

Also, I agree with one spacer being easier to use than a stack of washers. Are the nuts big enough to just slip over the bolts, or do they thread on?

 

[2013Ram1500]

I've seen threads with this done using a long strip of wood or steel with holes drilled in the ends so that it fits under the entire seat "rail", instead of just the corners. Does anyone think the stability of the seat is compromised by just supporting under the corners of each seat instead of having the entire "rail" bolted to the frame?



Also, I agree with one spacer being easier to use than a stack of washers. Are the nuts big enough to just slip over the bolts, or do they thread on?

In my opinion the seats still feel sturdy, and I don't think there will be enough weight on them to bend or anything. It's less than an inch of added gap, but if you want the extra support then that's the way to go. Plus it would probably be much easier to do.

In hindsight one nut would've been much easier. As for the slipping over or threading, I think that's up to you depending on what size nut you get. I just took the bolt into Home Depot and grabbed some washers (in your case nuts) that would fit and got those.

 

[Omicron]

I've seen threads with this done using a long strip of wood or steel with holes drilled in the ends so that it fits under the entire seat "rail", instead of just the corners. Does anyone think the stability of the seat is compromised by just supporting under the corners of each seat instead of having the entire "rail" bolted to the frame?

Also, I agree with one spacer being easier to use than a stack of washers. Are the nuts big enough to just slip over the bolts, or do they thread on?

While a single piece of steel with holes drilled is a different way of doing this, I'm confident the seat is as strongly mounted with this method as it was before. It's solid as a rock.

The bolt holes are larger than the seat bolts so they just slip through, not screw on. Like if these are (for instance) 3/8" bolt diameters, the nuts are 5/8" so there is no bite of the screw thread into the spacer nuts at all.

 

[Cruizer]

I might try this Sunday. What size bolts are in there? Thinking about putting a nut in place of the washers. Might eventually cut the hooks down, but wanna try it out first before I cut anything.

 

[Omicron]

I might try this Sunday. What size bolts are in there? Thinking about putting a nut in place of the washers. Might eventually cut the hooks down, but wanna try it out first before I cut anything.

No idea on the bolt thread size, but I can tell you that the heads are 18mm.

I thought about cutting the hooks down too, but decided raising the seat would be easier because the hooks have a plastic sheath thingy on one side of them I assume to keep the seat backs from rattling. Decided I didn't want to mess with cutting that part too.

 

[scubasteege]

So i tried to do this today in my 14 crew cab express and the bolts on the driver side came out but I broke the head off one on the passenger side. So now i have to drill it out and the one behind it is almost rounded of at the top. I bought the nuts for spacers and they look like they should work nicely but of course something that seems so simple ends being a huge pain.

 

[firebuff17]

I did my 14 crew cab express today. The drivers side bolts came out fairly easy with alittle muscle. The passenger side was even tighter. Especially the rear. That was the hardest. The torque must be higher on that side of the assembly line.
BUT, it came out awesome. I used 3/4" nuts. 5/8" nuts would probably work but I guessed on the size prior to removing the bolts.


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[C120]

This is awesome!! I am going to do this for sure. Might even fabricate some kind of shotgun/rifle rack for back there

 

[Omicron]

So i tried to do this today in my 14 crew cab express and the bolts on the driver side came out but I broke the head off one on the passenger side. So now i have to drill it out and the one behind it is almost rounded of at the top. I bought the nuts for spacers and they look like they should work nicely but of course something that seems so simple ends being a huge pain.

Man that sucks. Sorry you're going to have to spend so much time on it.