Floor mat catching gas pedal -safety hazard

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I have a 2019 ram 1500 classic I ordered the oEDreo floor mats and last night on the highway when I’m matted the gas the gas pedal got hung under the floor mat and kept the truck at wide open throttle
Which cause the truck to exceed 100 miles an hour. The problem is in the perfect conditions the upper right corner of the drivers floor mat can catch on the throttle pedal.
The fix is simple to just relieve the upper right corner by cutting away a quarter to half inch of the floor mat

I have attached photos
My assumption is that manufactures of similar floor mats i.e. heavy duty snow and mud floor mats may have a similar issue
If you check your truck it may look As if it’s not an issue but that the pedal gets very close to the top edge of the mat but in the perfect condition with Forward pressure the bottom left corner of the throttle pedal can get stuck under the lip edge of the mat. I would strongly suggest if when you check your truck and you press the gas pedal all the way to the floor if the Matt is within a quarter inch or less from the throttle that you cut away additional material so you have at least a half inch gap

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Or get the mopar fitted mats. Half the price of weathertech.

This sounds like a potential lawsuit on @OEDRO


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No problem with my Weathertech mats here.
 

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Isn’t the classic the same as an 18?


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Oh, I forgot that. Sorry for the problem.

One of our customers met the situation several months ago, then we fixed our products in time, cut the front of the mats.
I think that the mats you received may haven't fixed before.

Thanks for your feedback. If you like, we would like to resend the fixed floor mats to you.
Sorry again.
 

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Well....sometimes the Chinese theft of intellectual property just doesn't quite get it perfect.....
 
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wrong type.:33:
Excuse but please check my order as they are not the wrong type. I order model specific from Oedro. I assume by your profile you are a company rep. Please feel free to check my order number 100006882 for SKU EO1001W008 2013-2018 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab. I would also kindly ask that before you respond I have a 2019 and these are not for a 2019, that you check the 2019 Ram 1500 classic against the 2018 Ram 1500. What you will find is they are the same vehicle, i.e. a 4th generation Ram 1500. In addition, I have also sent these photos and a note to the company rep I dealt with on my order at your warehouse, Lenka. My objective here was nothing more than to notify others to check closely and if needed to modify their mats. I can tell you that it requires a perfect scenario for this to happen. That scenario is forward pressure on the mat and a quick firm push to the throttle i.e flooring it hard and fast, causing the pedal to be full compressed and quick enough to have it slip over the lip edge and catch. The mats where properly installed it the carpet clips. If you take a look at a set installed in a 4th gen Ram 1500 and push them as far forward as possible and hold them there under pressure as could be the case with one foot you will find that the upper right side lip edge of the mat will extend an 1/16 to 1/8 of an inch up behind the lower left corner of the throttle pedal when it is fully depressed at wide open throttle. 95% of the time this will not be an issue as the lip edge of the mat is fairly rigid. However, in a quick force full application of full throttle, i.e. stomping it to the floor, the carpet and mat will give way just enough to allow the lower left corner of the pedal to pass by the lip edge of the mat therefore becoming trapped by the mat upon release of the pedal.

As I said I only bring this up as it is possible that it can happen, and with the power of these trucks it can become a serious situation very quickly. If you would like to discuss directly please respond and I will try to PM you my phone and email......

You have a good product for an excellent price, or I would not have suggested them to friends and family. However it needs a minor tweak to assure this 1 in 100 scenario does not happen. I do understand that there are significant cost to change the design in order to remove just a 1/4 to 1/2 inch of material. But I assume as a member here and as a corporation that cares for their customers, it would be a change that would be implemented as soon as possible.

And finally, do not take my word for it, please have your engineers do a physical check. I am absolutely sure they will come to the same conclusion that the mat and throttle pedal can come into contact with one another in the right conditions and therefore result in the pedal becoming trapped behind the mat when enough force / foot pressure is applied.
 
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I'm just wondering how long that gas pedal was stuck for to get you into triple digits?
Road Rambler with a 392 you should know that it does not take long with the 5.7 hemi and the 8 speed tranny to go from 75 -80 to over 100. I am not sure of the exact speed as I was trying to resolve the issue. I know the truck is governed at 106. I was only moments from taking the only option when you have a run-away engine, i.e. key off and shut the motor down. I can tell you I tried to apply brakes which only decreased its acceleration rate. But when the truck can run a quarter mile in 15.063 at 93 MPH stock on stock tires (yes I have time slips). From 75-80MPH to over 100 does not take much, and it's a lot less than a 1/4 mile that's for sure.
 
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Oh, I forgot that. Sorry for the problem.

One of our customers met the situation several months ago, then we fixed our products in time, cut the front of the mats.
I think that the mats you received may haven't fixed before.

Thanks for your feedback. If you like, we would like to resend the fixed floor mats to you.
Sorry again.

No Problem, I do not need replacements as I have already made a relief cut as you can see from my photos above. However, I would ask that you do research my order and or utilize my photos above and determine if these were the new design or old design. If these are actually the new design then they need more of a relief made around the gas pedal. Again, we are not talking a major change to the overall mat, just another 1/4 inch or so.

Again, you have a good product here. And this was most likely a 1 in a 1000 possibility, but a safety risk even of that small amount is still a safety risk. I personally know I can feel better knowing that I brought this to your attention as well as fellow owners of 4th Gen Rams. My hope would be that as a company the design would be modified (if not already), and that fellow Ram owners would be aware, and could take a look and make the decision for themselves as to what they need to do.

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No issues with my Aries/Maxpider 3d Liners, they go up/behind the accelerator way past that point, and there is no way it could catch the accelerator pedal.
 

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Excuse but please check my order as they are not the wrong type. I order model specific from Oedro. I assume by your profile you are a company rep. Please feel free to check my order number 100006882 for SKU EO1001W008 2013-2018 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab. I would also kindly ask that before you respond I have a 2019 and these are not for a 2019, that you check the 2019 Ram 1500 classic against the 2018 Ram 1500. What you will find is they are the same vehicle, i.e. a 4th generation Ram 1500. In addition, I have also sent these photos and a note to the company rep I dealt with on my order at your warehouse, Lenka. My objective here was nothing more than to notify others to check closely and if needed to modify their mats. I can tell you that it requires a perfect scenario for this to happen. That scenario is forward pressure on the mat and a quick firm push to the throttle i.e flooring it hard and fast, causing the pedal to be full compressed and quick enough to have it slip over the lip edge and catch. The mats where properly installed it the carpet clips. If you take a look at a set installed in a 4th gen Ram 1500 and push them as far forward as possible and hold them there under pressure as could be the case with one foot you will find that the upper right side lip edge of the mat will extend an 1/16 to 1/8 of an inch up behind the lower left corner of the throttle pedal when it is fully depressed at wide open throttle. 95% of the time this will not be an issue as the lip edge of the mat is fairly rigid. However, in a quick force full application of full throttle, i.e. stomping it to the floor, the carpet and mat will give way just enough to allow the lower left corner of the pedal to pass by the lip edge of the mat therefore becoming trapped by the mat upon release of the pedal.

As I said I only bring this up as it is possible that it can happen, and with the power of these trucks it can become a serious situation very quickly. If you would like to discuss directly please respond and I will try to PM you my phone and email......

You have a good product for an excellent price, or I would not have suggested them to friends and family. However it needs a minor tweak to assure this 1 in 100 scenario does not happen. I do understand that there are significant cost to change the design in order to remove just a 1/4 to 1/2 inch of material. But I assume as a member here and as a corporation that cares for their customers, it would be a change that would be implemented as soon as possible.

And finally, do not take my word for it, please have your engineers do a physical check. I am absolutely sure they will come to the same conclusion that the mat and throttle pedal can come into contact with one another in the right conditions and therefore result in the pedal becoming trapped behind the mat when enough force / foot pressure is applied.

I am not mean you got wrong type floor mats.
I mean the wrong typo. Because I said before was a mistake, so I just delete it. Sorry about that.
Your advice is so important to us. We will check the mats again and give you the answer.
 

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Road Rambler with a 392 you should know that it does not take long with the 5.7 hemi and the 8 speed tranny to go from 75 -80 to over 100. I am not sure of the exact speed as I was trying to resolve the issue. I know the truck is governed at 106. I was only moments from taking the only option when you have a run-away engine, i.e. key off and shut the motor down. I can tell you I tried to apply brakes which only decreased its acceleration rate. But when the truck can run a quarter mile in 15.063 at 93 MPH stock on stock tires (yes I have time slips). From 75-80MPH to over 100 does not take much, and it's a lot less than a 1/4 mile that's for sure.
Dude, I'm exhausted just reading what you wrote.
PS: Turning the key off, if turned too far will lock the steering wheel. A safer idea is to simply shift into neutral. Pull over and then complete the floor mat repositioning.

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I worked for a Chinese company for 8 years translating Service Manuals for life support equipment. Trust me, you're wasting your breath. By the time your long worded tome comes out of the google translater on their end (probably in Shen Zhen), it'll have a very different meaning.

Good luck brother. We do appreciate any and all safety tips.

Oh, I also owned a gen 4 1500 5.7 3.92s with a tune, exhaust, CAI, that saw the other side of 100 mph every day just going to work in North Jersey.
 
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Dude, I'm exhausted just reading what you wrote.
that saw the other side of 100 mph every day just going to work in North Jersey.
Now you've really got my attention cause every day I drove to work when I lived in Jersey was more like a cattle procesion in the stockades at round up time. Hell if I got to 40 mph for more than 2 miles then we were hauling A55 on route 3. Used to live in Totowa and Little Falls and commute to Secaucus every day.
 

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Now you've really got my attention cause every day I drove to work when I lived in Jersey was more like a cattle procesion in the stockades at round up time. Hell if I got to 40 mph for more than 2 miles then we were hauling A55 on route 3. Used to live in Totowa and Little Falls and commute to Secaucus every day.
Yeah, Very familliar with that area. Worked at St. Mary's hospital for 15 yrs. Coming from Sparta, I did the Rt 80E to Rt 46E to Rt 3E and it was a glacier paced pkg lot.

I then got work in Mahwah, so, Rt 23S to Rt 287N. The last 10 miles of 287 N saw triple digits almost every day. Avg speed was 80. Fortunately, there really wasn't anywhere for the cops to hide.
This is where I found out my '17 CCLB 2500 6.4 4x4 4.10s has been governed to 104 mph. It was pulling like crazy then, just stopped accelerating and stayed on 104.
 
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