Gen 4 Ground Force Springs on Gen 5 4x4

[1badws6]

Has anyone been able to confirm if there is any difference between gen 4 and gen 5 coil springs for a 4x4? I planned on purchasing the Inez 3/5 kit but the 4x4 kit isn't available yet. I have a Ground Force kit sitting in my garage, hoping it will work. Just thought a quick check on here to see if anyone knows before I waste the time trying it.

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[abouttobeglue]

This site has the same part # for 2 inch rear lowering springs for 09-18 and 2019 ram. https://www.suspensionsuperstore.com/dodge-6/
Nothing for the front end though, saw another site that had the mcgaughy 44055 rear 2inch listed for the 19s as well.

 

[6speed4.7]

This site has the same part # for 2 inch rear lowering springs for 09-18 and 2019 ram. https://www.suspensionsuperstore.com/dodge-6/
Nothing for the front end though, saw another site that had the mcgaughy 44055 rear 2inch listed for the 19s as well.

Could also be the 2019 Classic?
Curious what changed, if at all..

 

[1badws6]

I spent some time under the truck the other day and measured what I could. Here's what I saw.

The front spring on the new 2019 is quite a bit shorter (thinking this was done to take some mass out of the assy, partly adding up to the 200# mass reduction on the 2019), which makes the perch on the strut that much higher. Without having both strut assys out of the truck and in front of me, I can't say whether the overall length of the assy is the same. If they are the same overall length and all mounting points are the same, you could theoretically use a 4th gen strut assy with lowering springs on the 5th gen.

Seeing that I want to improve the ride quality when lowered over what I experienced on the 4th gen Ground Force kit...I just decided to wait for the Inez 3/5 4x4 kit to be released. It just isn't worth the time trying to see if the 4th gen ground force kit will work on the 5th gen, if I want to go in another direction anyways. Also, I don't have the upper strut mounting assy for a 4th gen to be able to compare them.

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[noclass]

Pretty sure 4 gen 4wd struts will lower it about 2”. I’ve swapped 5th gen struts to a 4 gen and got about a 2” lift. The 5 gen is the one without the bump stop

 

[1badws6]

I think I'm gonna try this. I have a bilstein 5100 laying around, so I just need to find a gen 4 spring seat. If the springs are the same diameter at the seat, I don't see why this wouldn't work. Gen 4 bilstein or stock strut, gen 5 spring and upper strut mount with some belltech rear springs...If it works, it'll make for a pretty cheap 2/4 drop! Should work for the summer while Inez finishes up the 3/5 for us 4x4 guys.

Bilstein has a billet spring seat but it comes with their 2" lift. Hopefully I can buy it separate.

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[noclass]

I swapped just the strut used the 4th gen spring, top hat and seat

 

[a_guerrajr]

From what I have seen McGaughy's and Accessory Partners are selling the same part # for the new 19 DT trucks.

 

[DwnDak]

Old post I know.. but anyone ever complete a swap and have success? Still nothing for 4x4's right now other than Maxtracs

 

[Alter Ego Trip]

Any updates on whether the 4 gen swap works on the 5th gen?