Has anyone successfully fixed the air suspension?

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I am thinking its about time for new shocks. I have enjoyed the air suspension for the most part. Mine likes to lose all its pressure and the truck drops while at stop lights about 70% of the time. I have noticed most people do the regular shock mod but I am disabled and bought this truck specifically for that reason. Has anyone fixed they air suspension effectivally so it works properly?
 

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One of the biggest driving factors in why people convert from the air suspensions is the cost of repairs.
The air suspensions works until it starts loosing nitrogen. You need to have any leaks fixed which may include replacement of the air struts. The compressor assembly could also need to be replaced, when the system loses nitrogen it sucks in regular air which contains moisture. Moisture in in compressed gas valves don't play well and can cause them to malfunction.
 

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You cant fix a poorly engineered garbage built by the lowest bidder with low quality components.

One it fails the only option is to delete it. Or waste money fixing it....lol...
 

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It's a great system while it works. And "System" is the key word b/c it IS a whole entire 'system' of a compressor, lines/hoses, solenoids, a control system, air struts/shocks, and level sensors. It's not that complex fundamentally. Compressor provides air via plastic tubes to inflate rubber bags instead of shocks. Sensors via a wiring system and connectors provide a ride-height status and valves increase or decrease air to the air shocks ...as needed. A control system helps manage those things. Pretty much that's the basics. But there are a ton of potentially infinite failure points within those items. And that's the issue.

In actuality, air suspension systems haven't change a whole lot in fundamentals since the 80's/90's. I've worked on plenty of them and have owned a couple used Lincolns and Cadillacs with them, and kept their air suspension systems running until I sold the cars. And I helped a couple other needy folks with theirs..back in the day. If the shocks are good, I've found the root issues are usually small inexpensive (fixable) issues. I've read through the Ram air suspension section in the manual a couple times word for word just to get a sense of what it was and what's new. As I say, it's pretty similar to other systems. There are a few new twists, like the module and certain computer interlocks. But the rest of it is fairly typical. Yet, there are enough failure possibilities with connections, lines, is it doing this or that ...nobody can possibly shoot from the hip via his keyboard and tell another what the problem might possibly be w/o going through the tests.

Usually the problems result from buggy solenoids (which leak air), faulty sensors or wiring (which give incorrect height or feedback signal), shock 'bags' which simply wear out and rubber gets a crack or pinhole in them (and leak air). Hose/tube comes off. etc etc. Shocks wearing out is not unlike a 4x4 front outer CV joint boot which cracks after so many 'turn-cycles'. Folding rubber has a service life. Rubber gets harder from UV and ozone. Extreme cold and corrosive elements/rain, chunks of ice on hoses/sensors/lines in the winter don't help matters either. Ultimately something goes wrong. Owner lets the problem fester a week or so ....the air compressor runs a lot to compensate ...until it wears itself out (needing an expensive replacement). OR... you take the tk in for service and the first knee-jerk reaction by a shop or tech is to replace the compressor ..the most expensive part. And then owners get angry when they get a big bill b/c they've NEVER had stinkin' air suspension issues in any other vehicle they've ever owned! LOL. Who can blame them. A failed compressor is usually a symptom not the problem. The real problem could be a simple bleed solenoid or corroded connector somewhere. Or something on the compressor/valve system a tech can't afford to dig into (but a DIY guy could). To go through the system methodically takes time. Time is money. Shops could probably complete multiple other simpler in/out service jobs in the time it takes to de-bug one air suspension vehicle.

The best instructions for fixing the system are in the Ram Service manual. Virtually everything you could want to know, how it all works, all the electrical tests, voltages, codes, and trouble-shooting charts are in the manual. That's it. You can download it 'free' from this website in a couple minutes if you wanted to. Start working on it tomorrow ...if someone really wanted to dig in. It's all in the manual. But that requires work. Wanting to read it, taking the time to understand it ...and doing the 'checks'. And most people would rather watch TV than read the technical manual and poke around their truck.

So ...sure it can be fixed. Most items can be serviced. The compressors and pumps can be split and serviced ...if someone was willing to take the time to do it.

But, most owners who drive your truck around like a normal DD, and don't want to mess with it or learn/fix it, nor become an 'expert' ....converting over to regular springs/shocks is the easy way to guarantee long-term reliability and never any more air-suspension issues. Or large bills. However, if a guy gets into technical stuff... loves troubleshooting and a challenge, a air suspension system could be a fun challenge to debug. Eventually the air shocks will wear out but I've seen reasonable replacements for Rams. Replace them once and they may never need replacing again.
 
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Anything can be fixed ,it is a matter of cost.You need to get a proper estimate,and then decide.I assume as you say you are disabled,you will need to have someone troubleshoot this for you
 

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Yeah I forgot the disabled part. Yeah, you probably should convert your tk over ...or shop around for a different tk with springs and shocks.

Most EV's have air suspension due to the battery weight. I bet there will eventually be some 'good deal's' out there on EVs that need air-ride work and owners who just want to dump the car ...after a number of failed dealer service trips... :D
 
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I don't know if I could consistantly raise my leg high enough to get in or safe it would be to get out of the truck at the normal ride height. I can do it once in a while, but it could be an issue on a trip longer than an hour or two. I will look around and see what I can find. Maybe someone in my area or close can give me a quote.
 

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It's a great system while it works. And "System" is the key word b/c it IS a whole entire 'system' of a compressor, lines/hoses, solenoids, a control system, air struts/shocks, and level sensors. It's not that complex fundamentally. Compressor provides air via plastic tubes to inflate rubber bags instead of shocks. ........

Is the system filled with nitrogen? Or air? I see both mentioned at various places online.
 
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Is the system filled with nitrogen? Or air? I see both mentioned at various places online.
Nitrogen only since I have owned. I can't speak as to before I got it. Last 12000 miles with nitrogen.
 

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If you went around to some dealers ...and asked the techs in the shops ..like walked around the back and peered in the open bay doors and asked, "Hey, just curious, who's the resident 'expert' on Dodge Ram air suspensions here?" The techs will tell you. If they don't then ask who their "Master Tech" is. And then talk to that guy briefely, get his/her name. Ask how well they know the air ride? And maybe ask a few questions to try to assess how good they really are. Like for instance, do they go for replacing the compressor right away? What are the most common issues the run into? Is there another person in the shop who seems to know it better? If this tech happens to be a 'Master Tech' (ask them) and really knows it, then I'd feel great about that. I'd probably go to a couple dealers and do the same. Someone who reaches the Master Tech level does so b/c they love their craft, have innate mechanical ability, and probably enjoys what they do. They've put in the work to learn and take the tests. It doesn't happen by accident. In every shop you usually have one or two 'Superstars' (usually one), a couple decent techs who've been around, a few so-so guys they don't care if they quit. And a couple flunkies they HOPE will quit, or maybe will fire one of these days.

*if* there was tech there who had taken it upon themselves to become the 'expert' in Dodge air-ride systems ...then you'd have found the 'right' person. If you ask the service writer, they're going to look you in the eyes & tell you "all our guys are knowledgeable on air ride", which is total BS. So, I wouldn't even ask the service writer. Just walk straight to the back of the shop.

Once you find THE GUY ...or a couple guys at different shops who you think are qualifie, then you would need hard assurrances that THAT specific tech would be working on your vehicle THAT DAY. In fact, you'd want to stand there and make sure your truck didn't get handed off to the 'new kid' or a mediocre tech ...or the flunkie tech who's been thinking about quitting for the last 6 months. Often that happens. Guy drops off his truck and Master Tech is deep in some other project he has to finish up. So they give your truck too the new kid ...give him a chance to learn. Or the flunky who doesn't have much work at the moment. Then you're in trouble. Some new guys can be great. Every super-star tech started somewhere. You just don't want bozo-the-tech picking at your air-ride for 5 very expensive trips to the dealer ...and still hasn't solved the problem.
 
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