HID help?

[Brock14]

I'm wanting to replace my highs, lows, and fogs all with HIDs. I've never had HIDs before and from what all I've found I'm completely lost! Can anyone help me out with everything I would need for this setup?

Thanks

 

[BossHogg]

I've got 2 cents for ya. If you do not have projects in your headlamps you will blind on-coming traffic with HID bulbs.

HIDs are not instant on, they typically take several seconds to come up to full output albeit you can find instant on technology but the bulb life shortens. Also using HIDs in the high beams you will loose flash-to-pass because of the start up time.

If you do put HIDs in your fog lights, consider a Kelvin temperature under 3000 so you get than cut-throught-the-fog ability.

If you have a Sport trim or higher, then you should have projectors. Look for a HID kit that has loading resistors and a relay harness to prevent bulb-out messages. Google "can-bus HID kits" even though bulb out detection has absolutely nothing to do with the vehicle's CAN-buses.

 

[Brock14]

I've got 2 cents for ya. If you do not have projects in your headlamps you will blind on-coming traffic with HID bulbs.

HIDs are not instant on, they typically take several seconds to come up to full output albeit you can find instant on technology but the bulb life shortens. Also using HIDs in the high beams you will loose flash-to-pass because of the start up time.

If you do put HIDs in your fog lights, consider a Kelvin temperature under 3000 so you get than cut-throught-the-fog ability.

If you have a Sport trim or higher, then you should have projectors. Look for a HID kit that has loading resistors and a relay harness to prevent bulb-out messages. Google "can-bus HID kits" even though bulb out detection has absolutely nothing to do with the vehicle's CAN-buses.

Thanks for the info I know about the delayed brightness with warm up. I do have a 2014 laramie with the projector lights and the light output from them is absolutely horrible. Is there any other options yall would go with besides HID headlights I cant take these pos head lights anymore.

 

[red_line]

I have HIDs in my stock housings. I work shift work so I'm always driving in the dark and I have yet to have one person flash me. I did however lower them down about 3/4".

 

[iam_canadian22]

Retroshop.us for everything you need


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[Jameson]

Just installed 55w 6000k HIDs in my lows and fogs from Jeremy at Retroshop...love em.

 

[BossHogg]

Thanks for the info I know about the delayed brightness with warm up. I do have a 2014 laramie with the projector lights and the light output from them is absolutely horrible. Is there any other options yall would go with besides HID headlights I cant take these pos head lights anymore.

Isn't that the truth. I was surprised that the halogens that came out of the projectors (I have a 13 Laramie) were 55 watt bulbs. The lighting was horrid, driving at night in the rain it was difficult to see.

I added a HID kit to the projectors only, I selected a 55 watt bulb and ballast combination at 4300 Kelvin. What a difference, I live rural off of dirt roads and have no problems seeing in the rain at night.

I can't recommend the place I bought from (one of the retro somethings), I've had too many issues from different temperature bulbs, a failed ballast, two failed relays, and a burned out capacitor. I did NOT buy from Retroshop.us but I should have, you know what they say about hind sight.

The new electrical architecture that was introduced on 2013 RAMs uses the body controller to manage the lighting circuits. The circuits have bulb out detection so a loading resistor on each lamp is needed to keep the expected current draw so that a false bulb out message isn't displayed.

I also suggest a harness with an automotive grade relay to provide power to the ballast. The BCM uses pulse width modulation to power the headlamps, the off time in the PWM can cause HID flickering but a good relay will stay latched during the off times (milliseconds).

I am not aware of any other solution outside of HIDs.

 

[Brock14]

Thanks guys for all the help! Looks like I'll have to give Jeremy a try. It looks like hes got the right kits for what I'm looking for.

Isn't that the truth. I was surprised that the halogens that came out of the projectors (I have a 13 Laramie) were 55 watt bulbs. The lighting was horrid, driving at night in the rain it was difficult to see.

I added a HID kit to the projectors only, I selected a 55 watt bulb and ballast combination at 4300 Kelvin. What a difference, I live rural off of dirt roads and have no problems seeing in the rain at night.

I can't recommend the place I bought from (one of the retro somethings), I've had too many issues from different temperature bulbs, a failed ballast, two failed relays, and a burned out capacitor. I did NOT buy from Retroshop.us but I should have, you know what they say about hind sight.

The new electrical architecture that was introduced on 2013 RAMs uses the body controller to manage the lighting circuits. The circuits have bulb out detection so a loading resistor on each lamp is needed to keep the expected current draw so that a false bulb out message isn't displayed.

I also suggest a harness with an automotive grade relay to provide power to the ballast. The BCM uses pulse width modulation to power the headlamps, the off time in the PWM can cause HID flickering but a good relay will stay latched during the off times (milliseconds).

I am not aware of any other solution outside of HIDs.

Bosshogg how do you like the 4300k bulbs? Thats the bulbs I've heard the best about.

 

[BossHogg]

Bosshogg how do you like the 4300k bulbs? Thats the bulbs I've heard the best about.

4300K offers the most lumens and is the temperature most used by OEMs. In comparison, LEDs have a Kelvin temperature of about 6,000 but offer a little less lumens while offering a whiter light. Some folks want a whiter light for show and some like me want a more useable light spectrum (I have eyes that are 63 years old, more light is good).

Take a look at a color temperature chart (Color temperature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and see what works for you best. If you are going for useability, I wouldn't go lower than 4,300K or above 6,000K for your low beams and under 3,000K for fog lights, you want penetration through fog.

If you are going for street looks then the higher the Kelvin temperature the more white to blue to purple your light gets, as the Kelvin temperature increases the amount of useable light (lumens) decreases.

He is a good comparison picture of the various Kevin temperatures. I noticed the 6,000Ks are a bit more blue than what I would have expected.
3000K vs 4300K HID Bulb

To give you an idea of the increase in lumens from the factory halogens to 4,300K HID, halogens = 1100lm, 4300K HIDs = 3200lm. If you go with 55 watt HIDs, add 20% to the lumens.

 

[DublDee]

Just installed 55w 6000k HIDs in my lows and fogs from Jeremy at Retroshop...love em.

Part numbers please??? I need to upgrade asap.

 

[Jameson]

Pm Jeremy at Retroshop. He will set you up right. Also swapped leds in my bed lights, reverse lights, and license plate lights from retro - solutions.

 

[Brock14]

So if I'm getting this right by the looks of the website you have to buy 3 different kits to have highs lows and fogs?

 

[iam_canadian22]

So if I'm getting this right by the looks of the website you have to buy 3 different kits to have highs lows and fogs?

correct but if you have the factory projectors I highs aren't really needed as the projectors open up with the highs and are very bright with hid's in them

 

[ms8091]

Pm Jeremy at Retroshop. He will set you up right. Also swapped leds in my bed lights, reverse lights, and license plate lights from retro - solutions.

Definitely contact Jeremy. He knows hi stuff and the kits are top notch. Installed a little over 2 weeks ago and zero problems. I went with the 6000k lights because I live in more of a rural place and it illuminates the roads without side lines better, just my personal opinion. Don't go higher because it will not be bright enough, it's more just throwing light instead of being bright, if that makes sense.


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[0212353]

Here's what you guys are after!

Heads - 2013+ Dodge Ram HIDs
Fogs - 2009+ Dodge Ram HIDs - for Fog lights

These 13+ Rams are FUN.......picky little punks sometimes. They are a bit more cumbersome than the 09-12s, where a simple capacitor cared for the issues (quads anyway). The new ones, with the aforementioned computer fun - it can get tricky! But, we have the right combination of resistors, caps, etc - good to go.

 

[Brock14]

Here's what you guys are after!

Heads - 2013+ Dodge Ram HIDs
Fogs - 2009+ Dodge Ram HIDs - for Fog lights

These 13+ Rams are FUN.......picky little punks sometimes. They are a bit more cumbersome than the 09-12s, where a simple capacitor cared for the issues (quads anyway). The new ones, with the aforementioned computer fun - it can get tricky! But, we have the right combination of resistors, caps, etc - good to go.

Ordered my lows from you over the weekend should be getting them in today very excited to be able to see once I install them


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[0212353]

let me know your thoughts!

 

[Brock14]

let me know your thoughts!

Just received them and after opening the box my first thought was what the hell did I get myself into ha!

But on a serious note looks like a very clean nice wiring system!


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[0212353]

Watch the video on the product page, it'll walk you through the wiring - don't be afraid, once you lay it out - it all makes sense.

 

[smarsmar101]

I'll be ordering a set of fogs from you within the month jj... be ready! Cuz i am!!!