I Have a P20EE after the 67A Recall Work

[BossHogg]

Sometimes, I wonder just how much trouble folks are having with their late-model diesel tow vehicles. When my wife and I are not traveling, we keep our fifth wheel at Lighthouse Park, between Port Austin and Port Hope, on Lake Huron and in Michigan's Thumb region. We are in the full-time area of the camp, the south side.

Since we do not have access to the manufacturer's warranty data, I will walk the north side of the campground where the weekend campers hang out and talk with them. One thing about campers: they love chatting. I have yet to find anyone who hasn't had continuing issues with their diesel emissions system. Typically not serious and usually cleared by a forced regen. Most just don't get the drive cycles long enough to complete a regen.

I was talking with my son yesterday as I was helping him install a French drain system. He used to work for Chrysler Powertrain and has since moved to a tier-1 powertrain supplier. He told me all three are going to a higher-displacement, lower-compression diesel engine to reduce NOX output while lifting some of the exhaust-cleansing burden from the emissions system. I hope this works and, above all else, returns reliability.

 

[Ritchie_Rich]

I listed the work order and the Mopar part numbers in post 10. It is interesting that if you search for any of the Mopar part numbers, the parts are available on many sites. Apparently, the parts are not available to dealers. From my perspective, making parts unavailable, particulay the parts need to fix the 67A screw up, is a method used to discourage folks like me from keeping what I have and replacing. I have a feeling the lack of parts is purposeful because they know the fix isn't a blast of the parts cannon, so why invest the money in warranty parts when they know the outcome? They may have chosen to sit on it and let time cure the problem.

I've read plenty of posts where folks have much newer vehicles sitting at dealers waiting several months for parts. I don't know if any of these posts are true, but mine is.

Even if I decided to throw in the towel and buy a new tow vehicle, what would I buy? GM, exploding engine oil coolers, transmission lock-ups, a MAF sensor clogging, no thanks. Ford, plastic charge pipe failures, leaky oil pan, and sensor failures, plus they are on the threshold of setting a global record for the most vehicles ever recalled by a manufacturer. And then there is RAM, and they are not showing me any concern that the truck they sold me can be used for the purpose it was built for. I'm not going to repeat a RAM experience.

Just airing out my frustrations.

Maybe look at older Ram trucks?

 

[truck2014]

Agree on all points. I just got rid of my 2024, after being a Cummins fan since 1st Gen. Regens were getting more and more frequent despite idle time less than 4%, and lots of highway, almost no short trips. I was not willing to spend the $$$ for a ridiculous ECM swap to delete. Cummins has totally lost the plot, and Stellantis' parts situation is pretty awful. I actually had a Duramax on order before going back to Ram for the '24, due to GM's order allocation shenanigans. If I had to buy today, I hate to say I'd likely go Powerstroke. No toyhauler right now, so I am taking a break from the diesel world for a bit.

Having a big fifth wheel ,having a diesel is a must , and the only reason . I wouldn't own a diesel truck for 2 seconds if there were not a towing need . Just wouldn't make sense dealing with a diesel ,the DEF etc. IMO they are a pain in the **** .

 

[truck2014]

I will say I Have owned a diesel truck now for 28 years , towing fifth wheels ,but those days are getting fewer . When I hang up traveling with a fifth wheel , that diesel will be gone . Back to gas .