Need advice on picking a truck

[RoadRamblerNJ]

Seriously, give us a break, someone says something in a way you don't agree with and you need to write a dissertation?! Get a life. Not Just sayin'.

He asked for opinions. You ain't his momma, don't tell him what he needs, tell him what you think. Good job addressing none of my points.

 

[dexter]

He asked for opinions. You ain't his momma, don't tell him what he needs, tell him what you think. Good job addressing none of my points.

You're from NJ ... you don't have a point.

 

[MN-Ram]

fwiw, if you buy them in packs at the dealer it's not too bad. I think I pay around $65 and usually get around 7500 miles between them. I usually go in when the oil-o-meter on the DIC is around 15-20%. I'm not sure what the 5.7 costs.

I could get Mobil1 0W-20 full synthetic for $4-$6 per qt. depending on what rebates were available. My oil now costs $11-$12 per qt.

 

[RoadRamblerNJ]

You're from NJ ... you don't have a point.

We're all done son. If I wanted this in my world, I'd still be married to my 1st wife.

 

[BWL]

Looking at the pricing you were quoted I'd consider the 2500 6.4 gasser if similarly equipped to the 1500. You don't put a ton of miles on so I think the fuel will be offset by the tax savings. Does it go by purchase price or vehicle msrp? I have a crew cab 1500 with the 6'4" box, which is the same wheelbase as the 2500 short box crew and it's barely noticeable vs my 8" shorter quad cab 6'4" box truck. As far as maintenance goes the 6.4 gas should only be a bit more than the 1500, but the diesel oil changes are double, they have fuel filters, def and with the extra weight of the engine front ends wear out quicker and they understeer more. In my experience for towing the diesel is the way to go because it'll save you fuel and tow way better plus better resale makes the higher maintenance more worth it. If not towing the maintenance in my experience is double the 1/2 ton so not worth it if not towing. I've had a pile of trucks over the years and now just stick to half tons since that's all I need and the ride is better and maintenance lower. The road tax might push me to the 2500 if it affected me.

 

[BWL]

My 1500 quad cab 6'4" box net weight is about 5400lbs. If I was home I'd check my crew cab 6'4" 2017 limited as it might be over 6000 lbs net. Would that get you out of the tax or do they just tax 1500s and not 2500 and up?

 

[McBroom]

You're from NJ ... you don't have a point.

Why ya gotta be a ****** ********? It’s about swapping experience and thoughts with one another. Then ya gotta show your true colors.


I Love My 2018 RAM 2500HD 4x4 6.4L. USMC (ret)

 

[dexter]

We're all done son. If I wanted this in my world, I'd still be married to my 1st wife.

That's not the way mom tells it. She tell me she got rid of you!

 

[RoadRamblerNJ]

That's not the way mom tells it. She tell me she got rid of you!

She's dead *******. We're done or we're in person.

 

[COAinPaso]

Need some ketchup for that foot Dex? Guys' wives are off-*******-limits, *****.

OP-good luck with your shopping. I've had both the 6.7 and 6.4, I like both but got rid of the diesel for the gas. FOR ME, it's cheaper and does the same stuff the diesel did, little less mpg. Power is good and tows great, FOR ME.


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[Kev12]

Sooooooooooo, back to the subject at hand... I have a 2500 5.7L. I bought used from a local dealer when there were no 6.4L around town. The 5.7 has been great as a daily driver but I do tow a light 5th wheel and wish I had waited for a 6.4 or went diesel. With that said, if you are 0% certain that you will not need it for towing, I would consider the 5.7. I get 13-14 mpg daily driving.

 

[SouthTexan]

I am not sure where some of you guys are getting where the the worse fuel economy of the gas HD's will be off set by the taxes. According to my math with an average of 15k miles a year, gasbuddy prices in western Washington, and the average fuel economy of each truck per fuelly.com; his best choice in regards to fuel savings would be the 1500 3.7L followed by the 1500 3.0L Ecodiesel and then the 2500 6.7L Cummins in third.

Ram 2500 6.7L CTD - 15.5 mpg at 967.74 gallons used with diesel at $3.55 = $3,435.48

Ram 2500 6.4L - 12.0 mpg at 1,250 gallons used with 89 octane at $3.35 = $4,187.50

Ram 2500 5.7L - 12.0 mpg at 1,250 gallons used with 89 octane at $3.35 = $4,187.50

Ram 1500 5.7L - 15.5 mpg at 967.74 gallons used with 89 octane at $3.35 = $3,241.93 + $440 taxes on $40k truck = $3,681.93

Ram 1500 3.7L - 18.5 mpg at 810.81 gallons used with 87 octane at $3.20 = $2,594.59 + $440 taxes on $40k truck = $3,034.59

Ram 1500 3.0L Ecodiesel - 22.0 mpg at 810.81 gallons used with diesel at $3.55 = $2,878.38 + $440 taxes on $40k truck = $3,318.38

 

[BWL]

He averages less than 5000 miles a year. 49000 over 11 years. Not his primary vehicle. That makes the best on fuel (the ecodiesel vs the worst 6.4 on your numbers less than 300 a year difference.

 

[BWL]

My mistake. Close to 350 a year between V6 and 6.4 2500. He's claiming he'll be 550 a year tax so must be based on msrp vs. Discounted price.

 

[SouthTexan]

Well then his best choice would be the 1500 3.7L since it has better all around unloaded performance than the HD trucks while still saving him money over a 5.7L.

 

[BWL]

4k more for a 2500, which is a more capable truck. Only using it for family trips and the odd hunting trip could mean 4 people as the kids will grow up or 4 adults and whatever you catch if you go hunting so the 2500 would be nicer for that. 550-300 extra fuel-500 a year over 10 including taxes and interest on the difference is 300 a year more in the end and I'd wager the 2500 would resell higher and give most if not all of that 3k over 10 years difference back so it all goes to personal preference in my opinion at this point.

 

[DarthMegaHD]

Overall, with the Cummins being an $8k premium over the 6.4, there is absolutely no need for a cummins if you don't tow big stuff on the regular. I give my buddy a hard time for getting a cummins and never towing anything, especially when he broke down after his fuel filter burst I said man that extra diesel maintenance has to suck! All he could say was shut up man I could pull your truck! Cool story bro...

But the point is, a 6.4 is the best of both worlds. It's way more capable than a 1500, feels like a truck's truck, without the premium price tag, premium fuel price, and extra maintenance. And if you go MegaCab, you'll be spoiled for life! Or at least your passengers will.

 

[SouthTexan]

4k more for a 2500, which is a more capable truck. Only using it for family trips and the odd hunting trip could mean 4 people as the kids will grow up or 4 adults and whatever you catch if you go hunting so the 2500 would be nicer for that. 550-300 extra fuel-500 a year over 10 including taxes and interest on the difference is 300 a year more in the end and I'd wager the 2500 would resell higher and give most if not all of that 3k over 10 years difference back so it all goes to personal preference in my opinion at this point.

While I agree with you and is the main reason I went with a diesel HD, but this in't about what I want or my needs.

This based on his wants and needs from him stating "I don't tow and don't have any plans to get any of the toys that would have me towing on a regular basis" and "MPG is more important to me than towing or acceleration". For those needs, a 3.7L would not only have better unloaded performance than a stock HD, but it will also cost less.

 

[SouthTexan]

Why do some of you gasser HD guys always have to turn these thread into a justification of why you went with a gasser over a diesel thread? Do you have sour grapes syndrome?

 

[BWL]

This is an unusual circumstance where the 2 could cost roughly the same in the end over 10 years. Half ton rides better, 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi makes easier work of weight. If you're not putting more than 80k miles on the truck then neither should get into any major service requirements and either could if you get unlucky. I'd drive them both and anything else you'd like and just buy whatever you like better knowing in the end they'll all cost you roughly the same in the end given what trim and years you're looking at.