New Ram owner question

[stephane87]

Good morning everyone,

I’m a new Ram owner (after 5 Jeep) and I have some questions. I just bought a 2019 Ram 1500 Classic Warlock V6 (Crewcab, 4X4...).

1) I want to put a leveling kit but don’t want the front to be higher then the rear. Should I go with 2” or 2.5” coil spacers? And if I go with 2” or 2.5”, can I put on 34” or 35” tires (now I have 20” wheels with 275/60R20)?

2) I want to put on wheel spacers but don’t want the wheels to stick out but the thread to be flush with the fenders (I have the small added fenders from factory)

Thanks a lot for your time and have a great day,

 

[Jho93]

Good morning, welcome to the forum and congratulations on your new Ram! This forum has a lot of information to offer. I have a 19 classic as well and I'll just let you know as far as most websites are concerned for aftermarket parts or even oem replacement parts you have a 2018, not a lot of companies put the 19 classic option on there and I'd hate for you to purchase something for a 5th gen.

As far as front leveling goes this forums general consensus is that blistien 5100s are the best choice for the low cost option over just top spacers. They do offer some ride quality improvements over stock. Run just under 100$ each so for less than 200$ you can level the truck to your liking. They are adjustable, most people put them at 2.1 or 2.8 inches of lift based on how much rake your truck has because it does vary by truck. Just measure the top of the wheel well to the ground for each wheel to find out how much higher the back is than the front. Search some of the forums for 5100s information, ride quality and reviews. That's the least expensive option for front leveling besides spacers which can cause some issues. There are some more expensive ones out like fox 2.5 coilovers or king coilovers which come with a new spring where blistiens reuse the factory spring (you need to have it transfered, which is dangerous if you dont know how or arent comfortable have someone do it for you) blistiens must be removed to change the height adjustment as well vs fox and kings that can be adjusted while installed.


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[JoeCo]

Good morning, welcome to the forum and congratulations on your new Ram! This forum has a lot of information to offer. I have a 19 classic as well and I'll just let you know as far as most websites are concerned for aftermarket parts or even oem replacement parts you have a 2018, not a lot of companies put the 19 classic option on there and I'd hate for you to purchase something for a 5th gen.

As far as front leveling goes this forums general consensus is that blistien 5100s are the best choice for the low cost option over just top spacers. They do offer some ride quality improvements over stock. Run just under 100$ each so for less than 200$ you can level the truck to your liking. They are adjustable, most people put them at 2.1 or 2.8 inches of lift based on how much rake your truck has because it does vary by truck. Just measure the top of the wheel well to the ground for each wheel to find out how much higher the back is than the front. Search some of the forums for 5100s information, ride quality and reviews. That's the least expensive option for front leveling besides spacers which can cause some issues. There are some more expensive ones out like fox 2.5 coilovers or king coilovers which come with a new spring where blistiens reuse the factory spring (you need to have it transfered, which is dangerous if you dont know how or arent comfortable have someone do it for you) blistiens must be removed to change the height adjustment as well vs fox and kings that can be adjusted while installed.


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Agree with Jho93, definetely save yourself some trouble while ordering parts and go for 2018. Along the same lines, for future reference, you'll likely have better luck and more answers posting questions over in the 4th gen section. The 5th gen (also 2019, but not the classic) section that you posted in is for the brand new style Rams.

Oh and congrats on your new truck!

 

[quietpeen]

I moved this thread to the 4th gen lifted section.

Skip the spacers and get bilstein adjustable 5100’s. On my 2016 sport setting them at 2.1 was close to level with just a slight bit of rake left. A lot of people that set them to 2.8 felt it looked front high And the added rear spacers.

For the wheels since you want to use your stock setup I would measure from your tire to the edge of the factory fender flare and see what is needed to be flush. If you plan on getting wider tires take that into consideration.

 

[stephane87]

Thanks to the both of you, I appreciate

 

[stephane87]

I moved this thread to the 4th gen lifted section.

Skip the spacers and get bilstein adjustable 5100’s. On my 2016 sport setting them at 2.1 was close to level with just a slight bit of rake left. A lot of people that set them to 2.8 felt it looked front high And the added rear spacers.

For the wheels since you want to use your stock setup I would measure from your tire to the edge of the factory fender flare and see what is needed to be flush. If you plan on getting wider tires take that into consideration.

Thank so for the informations. I saw that some people are putting 1.5” rear and 1.25” front....does that make sens?

 

[Jbp19classic]

If this helps, here are 1.5” wheel spacers on the stock 20” wheels on my classic. Since you have the warlock flares it would be just about flush on your truck I think.

 

[Jbp19classic]

And also for reference, this is 2” front 1.5” rear level

 

[duckman631]

And also for reference, this is 2” front 1.5” rear level

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Just wondering what the slight lift/level does . Does the truck feel higher than stock or is it actually higher. If it is higher, why not go with a 4 or 6 inch lift instead.

 

[Tpearson515]

Good morning everyone,

I’m a new Ram owner (after 5 Jeep) and I have some questions. I just bought a 2019 Ram 1500 Classic Warlock V6 (Crewcab, 4X4...).

1) I want to put a leveling kit but don’t want the front to be higher then the rear. Should I go with 2” or 2.5” coil spacers? And if I go with 2” or 2.5”, can I put on 34” or 35” tires (now I have 20” wheels with 275/60R20)?

2) I want to put on wheel spacers but don’t want the wheels to stick out but the thread to be flush with the fenders (I have the small added fenders from factory)

Thanks a lot for your time and have a great day,

Welcome,
Coming from someone who went with a 2.5 spacer in the front, if I could do it again would have gone with the bilstein ( I plan on changing over)

As far as the rear spacer, you can measure what you like and what you will need up front to be level. Personally I went with a 1.5 rear spacer, (very simple to install takes about 20 mins) when ever i tow or use my bed which is quite often my truck sits level and rides nice under load.

I used a 1.5 hubcentric wheel spacer on the stock 20x8 ram aluminum rims, there was no need to cut and trim the stud, they sit pretty flush with a 275/65/20 AT tire. With oem style flares. (The rears sat in a little but I thought it looked good)

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[stephane87]

If this helps, here are 1.5” wheel spacers on the stock 20” wheels on my classic. Since you have the warlock flares it would be just about flush on your truck I think.

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Thanks a lot for the pictures....I think it would be perfect with the Warlock flares

 

[stephane87]

Welcome,
Coming from someone who went with a 2.5 spacer in the front, if I could do it again would have gone with the bilstein ( I plan on changing over)

As far as the rear spacer, you can measure what you like and what you will need up front to be level. Personally I went with a 1.5 rear spacer, (very simple to install takes about 20 mins) when ever i tow or use my bed which is quite often my truck sits level and rides nice under load.

I used a 1.5 hubcentric wheel spacer on the stock 20x8 ram aluminum rims, there was no need to cut and trim the stud, they sit pretty flush with a 275/65/20 AT tire. With oem style flares. (The rears sat in a little but I thought it looked good)

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Would you have any pictures please?

 

[Jbp19classic]

Just wondering what the slight lift/level does . Does the truck feel higher than stock or is it actually higher. If it is higher, why not go with a 4 or 6 inch lift instead.

Well it all depends on what kind of look your going for and what your goals are. A 2 inch level will clear up to 35” tires depending on the wheel backspacing and is much less expensive than a full 4-6 inch lift. In my case I wanted just enough to set the truck apart from stock and look a little more aggressive. I went with the 1.5 lift in the rear instead of just the front 2” level because I wanted the whole truck a little higher and I also didn’t want it to be nose high when towing. Even though it’s only 2 inches higher than stock it’s pretty noticeable in person and when driving. Cost wise, I have maybe $350 ******* in total between the front and rear lift spacers and the wheel spacers, and it really changed the overall look and feel of the truck.

 

[Tpearson515]

Would you have any pictures please?

My setup Is a little different now but here is a picture after I installed my flares, this is with 1.5 spacers and a 1.5 spacer in the back, also included a picture of the truck bed with about 1500lbs of flooring (without flares but shows how low the truck sits so you can imagine how much lower it would look without rear spacer)

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[duckman631]

Well it all depends on what kind of look your going for and what your goals are. A 2 inch level will clear up to 35” tires depending on the wheel backspacing and is much less expensive than a full 4-6 inch lift. In my case I wanted just enough to set the truck apart from stock and look a little more aggressive. I went with the 1.5 lift in the rear instead of just the front 2” level because I wanted the whole truck a little higher and I also didn’t want it to be nose high when towing. Even though it’s only 2 inches higher than stock it’s pretty noticeable in person and when driving. Cost wise, I have maybe $350 ******* in total between the front and rear lift spacers and the wheel spacers, and it really changed the overall look and feel of the truck.

Do the shocks have to be changed with this setup? I’m still running with the oem shocks.

 

[stephane87]

Do the shocks have to be changed with this setup? I’m still running with the oem shocks.

Good question...
If I would decide to go with 2” coil spacer front and 1” coil spacer back, would I need longer shocks or shock extension (like on a Jeep)?

 

[Jbp19classic]

Good question...
If I would decide to go with 2” coil spacer front and 1” coil spacer back, would I need longer shocks or shock extension (like on a Jeep)?

No it’s not necessary to change rear shocks for a mild lift in the rear like that. I didn’t and I can’t tell any difference at all in ride quality.

 

[duckman631]

No it’s not necessary to change rear shocks for a mild lift in the rear like that. I didn’t and I can’t tell any difference at all in ride quality.

What about front shocks?

 

[Jbp19classic]

What about front shocks?

Great question. I know you said you’re coming from a Jeep background, so keep in mind the front suspension on the 1500 is completely different being an IFS coilover design. The struts(shocks) and springs are all one assembly. So unlike the solid axle suspension on a Jeep there isn’t a concern of needing longer shocks with a lift up front due to the inherent nature of the design. There are two basic ways to level or lift the front end. If you put a spacer on top of the strut assembly it just pushes everything down and nothing is changed with the actual strut assembly. The other method is to use lift struts like the bilsteins that are quite popular. This replaces the strut only and uses the stock springs mounted on the new strut. Hopefully this makes sense!

 

[Jbp19classic]

I should also add, if you go with a spacer lift up front stay away from the large open circle designs like the motofab spacers. They don’t provide proper support for the top of the strut and now that people have been running them for several year we’re starting to see a lot of strut mount failures with those spacers. I personally recommend the Rough Country 2 inch kit because it supports the strut mount correctly and also includes added bump stops to avoid over extension of the strut with the spacer installed. I chose this route over lift struts like the bils because it is a little less expensive, easier install since the struts don’t have to be disassembled, and since my truck is brand new I didn’t see the need for changing out the struts.