2023RAM1500ds
Junior Member
Hi guys I have several questions...
I have a
- 24 Camaro 2ss (Last year of the camaro)
-24 4RUNNER (Last year of the V6 )
AND as you know this is the last year of the DS 23 Classic Editions and also the last of the Hemis... and i want one!! last DS and last of Hemis..
Always loved this body style. I finally found the one i want with all the options needed 3.92 23 'warlock classic in hydro blue ( which is in a different county but willing to drive there to pick it up) but there are orange harvest ones closer to my area with almost same spec , trailer brake,, tow hooks all the power options etc but none of them have the technolgy package (with remote start and push start button)
so first question
1) if i get the coppper edition without the technology pacakge and thus wont get the PUSH start button (Technology pacakge) if i go with that one am I missing anything other feature with that??
... Now that they are offering 25% off... Technically im in a position to finance it but the banks dont want to take a risk *sigh*.... so they want me to trade one of the cars before i can get the last of the best RAMs...
okay now the questions...
I'm aware of the hemi tick, there are solutions i hope( with hellcat oil pump etc) not idling the truck, the fact that the truck doesnt have all the modern touches (like all the cameras the camaro and 4runner offer) , tech, and the RAM has a hard plasticy feel to it... probably is not as reliable as a 4runner (not trying t dis the truck), not as noisey as the camaro's exhaust backfires....YET i want one sooo bad!
Camaro has always been " my car" from the 3rd - 6th gens... took me forever to find this last 24 edition with all the specs i wanted in it. It's the same story with the 4rUNNER.. Yet if i want the RAM... i have to let go of one...... and the camaro seems to be the one my mind wants to let go of...
2) which one would you let go of? The last reliable SUV, or the camaro? Am i crazy that i want to trade a camaro for it??
Ideally i SHOULD keep the camaro as my summer sports car to have fun with, and get rid of the 4runner??? i dont want to get rid of the best reliable SUV.
The specs of the fully optioned ram DS is about $4,000 more than camaro... but with the discount and the negative equity would bring the price back up, but im willing to do it...
3) I have heard good things about this zf transmission on the DS, and the engine should hold.... im **** about oil changes etc. How hard are the transmisson fluid changes on these? Are they "sealed for the life of the transmissions" or can their transmission fluids be changed on regular intervals and extend their lives??
4) Those that have had these trucks for a long time is there a difference in terms of longivity of the 3.92 vs 3.21 rear ends? Does one wear it more than the other?
5) How are the electronics ?? All manufacturers suffer from some sort of glitch, given theyve had these for about 14-15 years has Dodge ironed out all the issues?
6) How are the overal rust issues on the BODY/ frame of these trucks. ( I live in the salt belt)
7) Catch cans... are they mandatory on these?
8) should i get the larger 32 gallon tank...
again im looking at several models of the ds warlocks.. so still havent pulled the trigger... Came on here to get some prespectives.
9) I was hoping i could keep all 3 and to be honest to preserve the camaro and the 4runner........ and use this new potential DS truck as my daily driver.... yet some how im willing to let go of the camaro to get this...(Am i crazy?) lol
i know it's a long thread but i cant stop thinking about this last classic warlock edition and need advice from people that have experince with this generation of truck.
I have a
- 24 Camaro 2ss (Last year of the camaro)
-24 4RUNNER (Last year of the V6 )
AND as you know this is the last year of the DS 23 Classic Editions and also the last of the Hemis... and i want one!! last DS and last of Hemis..
Always loved this body style. I finally found the one i want with all the options needed 3.92 23 'warlock classic in hydro blue ( which is in a different county but willing to drive there to pick it up) but there are orange harvest ones closer to my area with almost same spec , trailer brake,, tow hooks all the power options etc but none of them have the technolgy package (with remote start and push start button)
so first question
1) if i get the coppper edition without the technology pacakge and thus wont get the PUSH start button (Technology pacakge) if i go with that one am I missing anything other feature with that??
... Now that they are offering 25% off... Technically im in a position to finance it but the banks dont want to take a risk *sigh*.... so they want me to trade one of the cars before i can get the last of the best RAMs...
okay now the questions...
I'm aware of the hemi tick, there are solutions i hope( with hellcat oil pump etc) not idling the truck, the fact that the truck doesnt have all the modern touches (like all the cameras the camaro and 4runner offer) , tech, and the RAM has a hard plasticy feel to it... probably is not as reliable as a 4runner (not trying t dis the truck), not as noisey as the camaro's exhaust backfires....YET i want one sooo bad!
Camaro has always been " my car" from the 3rd - 6th gens... took me forever to find this last 24 edition with all the specs i wanted in it. It's the same story with the 4rUNNER.. Yet if i want the RAM... i have to let go of one...... and the camaro seems to be the one my mind wants to let go of...
2) which one would you let go of? The last reliable SUV, or the camaro? Am i crazy that i want to trade a camaro for it??
Ideally i SHOULD keep the camaro as my summer sports car to have fun with, and get rid of the 4runner??? i dont want to get rid of the best reliable SUV.
The specs of the fully optioned ram DS is about $4,000 more than camaro... but with the discount and the negative equity would bring the price back up, but im willing to do it...
3) I have heard good things about this zf transmission on the DS, and the engine should hold.... im **** about oil changes etc. How hard are the transmisson fluid changes on these? Are they "sealed for the life of the transmissions" or can their transmission fluids be changed on regular intervals and extend their lives??
4) Those that have had these trucks for a long time is there a difference in terms of longivity of the 3.92 vs 3.21 rear ends? Does one wear it more than the other?
5) How are the electronics ?? All manufacturers suffer from some sort of glitch, given theyve had these for about 14-15 years has Dodge ironed out all the issues?
6) How are the overal rust issues on the BODY/ frame of these trucks. ( I live in the salt belt)
7) Catch cans... are they mandatory on these?
8) should i get the larger 32 gallon tank...
again im looking at several models of the ds warlocks.. so still havent pulled the trigger... Came on here to get some prespectives.
9) I was hoping i could keep all 3 and to be honest to preserve the camaro and the 4runner........ and use this new potential DS truck as my daily driver.... yet some how im willing to let go of the camaro to get this...(Am i crazy?) lol
i know it's a long thread but i cant stop thinking about this last classic warlock edition and need advice from people that have experince with this generation of truck.