Ram Hurricane engine chief engineer explains: Why Hemi 5.7L V8 was replaced

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Ram Hurricane engine chief engineer explains: Why Hemi 5.7L V8 was replaced, stop changing oil every 3,000 miles​

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Story by Tim Esterdahl


The replacement of the Hemi 5.7L V8 as Ram’s top engine remains one of the most controversial decisions in recent Ram truck history. Yet according to the Ram Hurricane engine chief engineer responsible for both the Hemi engine and the new Hurricane inline-six, the move wasn’t simply about emissions regulations.

In an interview, Stellantis Director of Propulsion Systems Alan Falowski explained why the company developed the 3.0-liter Hurricane twin-turbo inline-six, how it was engineered to replace the Hemi and why many common concerns about turbocharged engines may be rooted in outdated thinking.

Why Ram Chose an Inline-Six Instead of Another V8​

Falowski said the Hurricane program began with a simple objective: create an engine that could outperform the Hemi in every meaningful category.

According to Falowski, engineers established three primary targets:
  • More horsepower
  • More torque
  • Better fuel economy
After determining those goals, the engineering team concluded a turbocharged engine offered the best path forward. The next question became what engine configuration would deliver those results.

Rather than developing another V8, Stellantis chose a 3.0-liter inline-six because it could meet power targets while also offering inherent balance advantages.

“In an inline six they’re perfectly balanced,” Falowski explained. “They’re smooth, they feel great whether you’re idling or racing all the way to redline.”

He also noted the smoother operation fit well with luxury-oriented trucks like the Ram 1500 Tungsten, where refinement is increasingly important to buyers.

Stellantis Says Turbo Reliability Concerns Are Based on Old Technology​

One of the biggest criticisms of the Hurricane engine has been its twin turbochargers.

Falowski acknowledged many consumers still view turbocharged engines as less reliable than naturally aspirated engines, but said that perception largely comes from earlier turbo applications where manufacturers simply bolted turbos onto engines that were never designed for boost.

The Hurricane, he said, was engineered from the beginning as a turbocharged engine.

Engineers modeled cylinder pressures, temperatures, cooling requirements and material specifications before production began. The same durability and design principles used for decades in turbocharged diesel engines were applied to the Hurricane gasoline engine.

Extreme Durability Testing Includes Simulating a Race Track​

Falowski provided new details on how Stellantis validates Hurricane durability.

Rather than simply accumulating miles, engineers use damage accumulation models that simulate the stress customers place on engines throughout their ownership experience. The company then creates accelerated tests that generate the same amount of wear in significantly less time.

One example involves running the engine at sustained high output for hundreds of hours, far beyond what most owners would ever experience.

Stellantis also uses a specialized gimbal-mounted dynamometer capable of tilting the engine to simulate extreme cornering conditions while monitoring oil flow.

The goal is to ensure the engine never experiences oil starvation even under aggressive driving conditions.

How Stellantis Solved a Common Turbo Problem​

Another interesting detail involved turbocharger cooling.

Falowski said the Hurricane uses a dedicated low-temperature cooling circuit that not only cools compressed intake air but also continues cooling the turbochargers after the engine is shut off.

The system uses an electric water pump to continue circulating coolant after shutdown when necessary.

According to Falowski, this helps prevent oil coking inside the turbochargers, which was a common failure point on older turbocharged engines.

Hurricane Oil Requirements and 10,000-Mile Oil Changes​

Perhaps the most controversial topic involved oil.

Falowski confirmed the Hurricane Standard Output engine uses 0W-20 full synthetic oil, while the High Output version requires 0W-40 because of its higher boost pressures and bearing loads.

He also defended the engine’s 10,000-mile oil change interval.

According to Falowski, modern synthetic oils and additive packages are dramatically more advanced than oils available even a decade ago. The Hurricane’s oil life monitoring system continuously evaluates engine operation and can request earlier service if the vehicle experiences severe use.

He went even further near the end of the interview, calling the 10,000-mile recommendation a conservative number.

“The 10,000 miles that we recommend, it’s a very safe number,” Falowski said.

No Dipstick? Stellantis Thinks That’s Better​

Another surprising revelation involved engine oil monitoring.

While many truck buyers dislike the disappearance of traditional dipsticks, Falowski said newer Stellantis vehicles, like the 2025 Ram 1500 with the Hurricane engine, use oil level sensors that continuously monitor oil levels. If the oil level falls below a specified threshold, the system alerts the driver immediately.

His argument is straightforward: most owners never checked their oil anyway.

By continuously monitoring oil levels electronically, Stellantis believes the system actually offers better protection than relying on drivers to remember periodic checks.

Bottom Line from the Ram Hurricane Engine Chief Engineer​

Whether Ram fans like it or not, the Hurricane wasn’t developed simply because someone wanted to kill the Hemi.

According to the engineer who helped develop both engines, the Hurricane program focused on delivering more power, more torque, improved fuel economy and greater refinement while meeting increasingly stringent global requirements.

The bigger challenge may not be convincing customers the Hurricane is capable. It may be convincing lifelong V8 owners that modern turbocharged technology, longer oil change intervals and electronic monitoring systems have evolved far beyond what they remember from decades ago.


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Sure, and I'm sure there are a lot of people who's skills don't align with both aspects. Sales needs to be able to frame negative things in a positive light or tell people they suck at X without saying "you suck at X". Eggheads tend to not weave those social niceties in and also assume everyone else is an egghead as well.
And so the issue is when exclusively sales people run a company.

Look at Purchasing Agent Mary Barra and her outsourcing of V8 crankshafts that were made in-house for years. Now she has a recall of 500,000+ engines. Is that a good way to run a company?
 

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And so the issue is when exclusively sales people run a company.

Look at Purchasing Agent Mary Barra and her outsourcing of V8 crankshafts that were made in-house for years. Now she has a recall of 500,000+ engines. Is that a good way to run a company?

Everybody has their niche. Let the eggheads run things and you end up with something too expensive to build or buy. Let the sales people run things and you end up with vaporware that never becomes a real product and liver damage. Let the bean counters run things and you end up with, well, GM.

Leadership's role is to know who's good at what and where the compromises need to be made, as well as where resources are best used. This guy may be a great engineer, and I expect he is given the position he's attained but he's kind of a dud at marketing. Just look at the reception in this thread. I'd rather you just say "we didn't put a dipstick in as a cost and complexity reduction measure, as we believe in the value of constant monitoring...." and then spin it from there. We'll still know it's ********, but it's more understandable and relatable than "customers are lazy, so we took the option away"
 

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You read a whole lot into a reply.
You did say your were insulted.

I'm not saying I'd do better, I'm saying when you enter the public realm the public will comment on you and what you said. He's not just an engineer now, he's a PR hack.

He's an engineer that was asked to answer some questions, by a tech enthusiast/reporter. Maybe even on his own time. Answering some questions as best he can while wanting to keep his job doesn't make him a hack. Some of us actually like these more technical interviews, for what they are, and are capable of reading between the lines and understanding how this all works. And we would like more interviews like this, so kindly keep your pants on please.

Part of being a PR hack is not needlessly insulting your customers, I'm not personally insulted as much as pointing out how foolish that is to say.

He didn't insult anybody. Good grief. As I said, you can CHOOSE to be insulted over everything but you can also choose not to be a snowflake.

I'm pretty self aware, and it's a running joke about how well I'd do in the PIO's office. I'm authorized to talk to the media, but I don't. I don't care to play a narrative vs just tell the truth as is, but if you're going to be a PR hack then you need to understand your organization's desired narrative. "Our customers are lazy" is probably not the one Stellantis is going for.

He didn't say anything about lazy. That's you're silly take. This is no different than adding tire pressure sensors or other features like this which can improve the customers life. We all get busy and let stuff slide that we shouldn't. Nobody in my family checks their dipstick because they don't have to, they might check before a long trip. Their engines don't burn enough oil. I do it once a month more for kicks than because I need to. It literally never moves even a hair.

And the "miss" here wasn't adding the sensor, that's actually a great feature. The miss was removing the dipstick.

As far as being anonymous, that a pants on head silly thing to say. I've no idea where in Canada you are, and I'm guessing your birth name isn't ramffml so I guess you're hiding as well?

Two anonymous guys b|tching on a forum is not the same thing as thing as anonymous guys personally attacking the reputation of a real person in public.


I'm in Montreal and Ottawa July 5 - 14. I'd be happy to meet up and tell you that you say dumb **** in person as well and you can tell me what a ***** I am if that works for you. It's more fun over microbrew, and we can thumb wrestle. Leave your tape measure at home, though, that's weird and I heard you cheat by letting the other guy get in the pool first.

I think you confuse my drive to know and present the truth as being angry, and I'm fully aware my dry humor doesn't always hit in text format, but that's ok.

In person I'd tell you that you can white knight for him all you like but he's never going to **** you. Unfortunately that gets censored here, so the best I can do is:

Your post gave the same vibe:

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Nobody cares doc.
 

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I didn't read all those post so I apologize if this has been said, but that must be the reason Stellantis has ramped up production to build over 100,000 HEMI engines to meet the massive demand. Seems most are demanding the V8 Hemi, but then, wasn't he on board with putting the EV in the failed launch of the 2 door Charger too?
 

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He didn't say anything about lazy. That's you're silly take.

You obviously didn't watch the interview you are defending and are debating from a position of ignorance as such.

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Who's got a silly take now?

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You did say your were insulted.

Noooo, what I said was:
The "it does a better job than us lazy humans" is just needlessly insulting.

Quote where I said I was insulted vs the above, the statement was needly insulting. Not a personal insult, just a dumb needless insult toward your customer base.


PR hack:
Granting public interviews about your work makes you a PR Hack. You can't claim on one hand he has to pump up the new motor to keep his job on one hand and then say he's not engaging in PR. What, exactly, do you think PR means?

Two anonymous guys b|tching on a forum is not the same thing as thing as anonymous guys personally attacking the reputation of a real person in public.

Well, you said I was hiding so I am giving you the chance to test your assumption I would act or speak differently in person. The offer stands if you're not hiding and anonymous and either of those cities and dates are convenient for you. Come tell me what a snowflake ***** I am, I'm not offended in the slightest by you and maybe you'll feel better. Maybe actually watch the interview in the meantime and we can debate what he actually said vs what you imagined happened as well.
 

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You obviously didn't watch the interview you are defending and are debating from a position of ignorance as such.

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Who's got a silly take now?

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Noooo, what I said was:


Quote where I said I was insulted vs the above, the statement was needly insulting. Not a personal insult, just a dumb needless insult toward your customer base.


PR hack:
Granting public interviews about your work makes you a PR Hack. You can't claim on one hand he has to pump up the new motor to keep his job on one hand and then say he's not engaging in PR. What, exactly, do you think PR means?



Well, you said I was hiding so I am giving you the chance to test your assumption I would act or speak differently in person. The offer stands if you're not hiding and anonymous and either of those cities and dates are convenient for you. Come tell me what a snowflake ***** I am, I'm not offended in the slightest by you and maybe you'll feel better. Maybe actually watch the interview in the meantime and we can debate what he actually said vs what you imagined happened as well.

Lol, I did watch the interview when it came out months ago on Tim's channel. Obviously I was insulted so much I could remember him saying it word for word.

"us lazy humans"... so while I did misremember the actual quote, the point he was making wasn't insulting in the slightest (a little self deprecating humour on his part as well) so don't try to twist that. As I said, if you're insulted by that you might just be a snowflake.

You go ahead and unwind your twisted panties, I'm going to enjoy my Sunday.
 
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How about you guys take this argument to PMs and leave it so the rest of us don't have to watch the "My Dad is bigger than your Dad" nonsense. Thank you.

I've offered to have it in person, but he keeps ignoring that. *shrug*.

The offers good for anyone. I'm not that scary. Come say hi. Have a beer and discuss what a ***** I am or whatever. Montreal or Ottawa, various dates for each July 6 to 14.
 

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Never driven one, probably should at some time. Don't mind a six, like turbos and other power adders, but think Ram could have and should do both.

Not everyone wants a six. Glad thst mistake has been corrected
I test drove a hurricane and the engine was what I liked best about the truck. It drove well.

Now, how well it holds up 10 years later, time will tell. I didn't buy the truck.
 

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NICE PR there on what behooves Stellantis. IMHO the bigger problem right now seems to be the funky/fluky new Atlantic Electrical Architecture. How well the new inline 6's hold up may be to use: I would think as GG and general use be OK. Working that motor as a TRUCK, only time will tell and an engineer telling me how great a silly twin turbo DI motor is to me, well that is kinda funny. MAY explain why my 2019 is still parked out front.
Much as I love where I live, that is one luxury you guys down south and out west have, that's a lot harder to achieve in the northeast. You can easily keep an older truck for ages if you want to, just replace whatever parts you need to.

I like my 2014, the hemi still works great, I have no thirst for a new one and I'd like to keep the truck for a long time yet, but it's becoming clear that I'll soon be facing an uphill battle with rust.
 

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Much as I love where I live, that is one luxury you guys down south and out west have, that's a lot harder to achieve in the northeast. You can easily keep an older truck for ages if you want to, just replace whatever parts you need to.

I like my 2014, the hemi still works great, I have no thirst for a new one and I'd like to keep the truck for a long time yet, but it's becoming clear that I'll soon be facing an uphill battle with rust.
Been there done dat I am a shore kid lol.
 

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The problem with new, either say a 2026 2500 or even a 2027 Rumble Bee or equivalent without E Torque is the electronics/electrical architecture more than mechanical, IMHO.

I was thinking of a 2500, though TBH not need that much truck, and I have no desire to put up with the New Atlantis electrical fiasco. I normally only do 5 years on a truck but I am going on 8 years ownership 1 Aug on my Early Build 5th Gen which was built in April 2018.
 

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The problem with new, either say a 2026 2500 or even a 2027 Rumble Bee or equivalent without E Torque is the electronics/electrical architecture more than mechanical, IMHO.

I was thinking of a 2500, though TBH not need that much truck, and I have no desire to put up with the New Atlantis electrical fiasco. I normally only do 5 years on a truck but I am going on 8 years ownership 1 Aug on my Early Build 5th Gen which was built in April 2018.
The 2026 2500 has been moved to the new Atlantic Electrics. I am keeping my 2021.
 
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The problem with new, either say a 2026 2500 or even a 2027 Rumble Bee or equivalent without E Torque is the electronics/electrical architecture more than mechanical, IMHO.

I was thinking of a 2500, though TBH not need that much truck, and I have no desire to put up with the New Atlantis electrical fiasco. I normally only do 5 years on a truck but I am going on 8 years ownership 1 Aug on my Early Build 5th Gen which was built in April 2018.
Point taken, but currently, I strongly prefer the looks of the HD over the 1500.
 

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Point taken, but currently, I strongly prefer the looks of the HD over the 1500.
I got that, I would not purchase an E Torque setup, would have to be a 27 without, and last I saw the beginning prices were in the 60's.
I can get a 2500 cheaper, but Not even sure I can get the 2500 into my garage and I just do not need that much truck, and no way I DESIRE to play with
the new electrical BS.

IF GM goes back to the 5.7 and 6.6 without AFM/DFM would be a look for sure, but that friggin disaster GM/Ford 10 speed tranny is another friggin issue.
 

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Point taken, but currently, I strongly prefer the looks of the HD over the 1500.

Yeah, I never really warmed up the 5th gen either. Or the 3rd. 4th and 2nd gens nailed the aesthetics, IMO.

The ride is harsher and the size can be a bother in some situations, but I've been well satisfied with mine. No stop/start is a nice perk as well.
 

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I got that, I would not purchase an E Torque setup, would have to be a 27 without, and last I saw the beginning prices were in the 60's.
I can get a 2500 cheaper, but Not even sure I can get the 2500 into my garage and I just do not need that much truck, and no way I DESIRE to play with
the new electrical BS.

IF GM goes back to the 5.7 and 6.6 without AFM/DFM would be a look for sure, but that friggin disaster GM/Ford 10 speed tranny is another friggin issue.

I thought Ford had their 10 speed issues pretty well sorted these days?
 

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I thought Ford had their 10 speed issues pretty well sorted these days?
They were upgraded for 2023 and most people seem to be more confident since then, but (at the risk of repeating something I've said before) I don't think they were that bad even before then. Just like the hemi, you'll hear a bunch of horror stories, but other people will tell you it's exxagerated and in reality it's only a small percentage that fail, with many of those being driver inflicted.

Actually, since I've learned to take the internet with a grain of salt, I'll be honest and put it this way. I personally know several people with ford 10 speeds, including myself, and none of those have failed, even the older ones.
I also know several people with 5.7 hemis, including myself, and at least one of those busted it's cams and was rebuilt. It was probably avoidable, and the truck now has high mileage with no other major issues.

Frankly, especially 2023 forward, I'd be a lot more comfortable with a 10 speed than an etorque. The ram 8 speed is a good trans, and honestly a standard output hurricane would probably last the life of the truck if I had one, but I'll wait another while before I say that with too much confidence.
 
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