Tire Runout on brand new tires

[yogibear18]

Anyone deal with tire runout issues with new tires less 300 miles on tires? Bought tires at walmart on black friday deal, week later experience a shimmy, took back a week later ask to check and rebalance them, which they did, later on this month started experiencing same thing, i decided to go to discount tire and they informed me one of the tires has lateral runout, they rebalance them and went on my way, my concern is i feel like walmart is going to give me a run around and avoid replacing the bad tire, i didn’t buy the road hazard, what do you all think ? tires are cooper evolution ht2

 

[Burla]

Ram Forum has had several issues with cooper tires recently, and it is not a widespread thing, to my knowledge only cooper. Do a search.

 

[Atcer2018]

Anyone deal with tire runout issues with new tires less 300 miles on tires? Bought tires at walmart on black friday deal, week later experience a shimmy, took back a week later ask to check and rebalance them, which they did, later on this month started experiencing same thing, i decided to go to discount tire and they informed me one of the tires has lateral runout, they rebalance them and went on my way, my concern is i feel like walmart is going to give me a run around and avoid replacing the bad tire, i didn’t buy the road hazard, what do you all think ? tires are cooper evolution ht2

I had a General tire purchased at Walmart develop a bulge in the sidewall. They replaced it without any excuses but I did have their road hazard warranty. If the tires are within the store return policy timeframe you may be covered. I know hindsight is 20/20 but Wally worlds road hazard warranty for $10 is pretty good. I’ve used it several times on various vehicles.

 

[Dean2]

Tire with run out is a factory defect and should never have been released from Cooper in the first place and never left mounted in the second place. Take it back to Wally World and make them replace it. No matter how often you balance it, the run out just gets worse, and it is dangerous as it demonstrates a serious construction fault in the tire.

 

[chri5k]

Don’t expect too much from Walmart tire techs. Chances are they were stocking baby food and diapers on aisle K27 last week.

They have no idea what tire runout is or how to see it. If they can’t see the defect like the bulging sidewall the previous poster mentioned, chances are slim to none they will know how to look for runout or know it is a defect.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Decades ago I bought a nice set of 4 Michelins for my car from Walmart, at least one had radial runout and no amount of weight would correct that defect.
The tire guy tried replacing every tire with runout only to discover every replacement also had runout.
I got a full refund and bought tires elsewhere.
Fast forward about 10 years, I'm back at a different Walmart looking for a good price on 4 more tires for a different vehicle.
Same stuff, radial runout, can't be corrected.
Never went back to Walmart for tires.
Lateral and radial runout, IMHO, can not be corrected with weight.
Get 100% of your money refunded and visit a reputable tire dealer.

 

[Atcer2018]

Decades ago I bought a nice set of 4 Michelins for my car from Walmart, at least one had radial runout and no amount of weight would correct that defect.
The tire guy tried replacing every tire with runout only to discover every replacement also had runout.
I got a full refund and bought tires elsewhere.
Fast forward about 10 years, I'm back at a different Walmart looking for a good price on 4 more tires for a different vehicle.
Same stuff, radial runout, can't be corrected.
Never went back to Walmart for tires.
Lateral and radial runout, IMHO, can not be corrected with weight.
Get 100% of your money refunded and visit a reputable tire dealer.

I respectfully disagree. I’ve used Wally World for tires for years and have never had a problem with substandard tire quality. As you state the ability of the technician varies greatly from store to store but the tires sold by Walmart are not some special selection of low quality with brand names. They get them from the same distribution network as any other tire retailer. They typically have the best prices and their $10 road hazard warranty isn’t the typical tire dealer ripoff. I’ve used their house branded Douglas tires made by Goodyear, Falken Sinceras, General Exclaims, Uniroyal Tigerpaws, Venom Power Terra Hunters and Michelin Defenders all purchased at Walmart without issue except one General Exclaim with a manufacturing defect, which happens to all manufacturers.

 

[Burla]

He didnt say anything about walmart having poor tire quality, he said run out, which if you believe what the net says is mostly caused by the technicians. Lo barato sale caro carries a lot of truth, it isnt cheaper unless you get the same service. In the case of tires, I'd never mess around. Walmart ranks 24th out of 25th consumer reports, no thanks!! I have had unbelievable luck with les shuab, I credit the competition that forces them to step it up, but too many great stories I could write a book.

 

[Curmudgeon]

I respectfully disagree. I’ve used Wally World for tires for years and have never had a problem with substandard tire quality. As you state the ability of the technician varies greatly from store to store but the tires sold by Walmart are not some special selection of low quality with brand names. They get them from the same distribution network as any other tire retailer. They typically have the best prices and their $10 road hazard warranty isn’t the typical tire dealer ripoff. I’ve used their house branded Douglas tires made by Goodyear, Falken Sinceras, General Exclaims, Uniroyal Tigerpaws, Venom Power Terra Hunters and Michelin Defenders all purchased at Walmart without issue except one General Exclaim with a manufacturing defect, which happens to all manufacturers.

You can disagree 'till the cows come home, I don't care.
I made no blanket statements about Walmart, their employees,
or the tires they sell.
I posted only about my experiences.

Whatever you may have read in to that, or inferred from it, is
your issue.

 

[Burla]

I'll share the top 3 les shuab experience, number one my wife was getting flats a bunch of them we think it was irate customer, 7 flats total over 6 months no charge from les shuab, and even had my trailer flat, no charge, best part, none of the tires were bought at les shuab, lol. I was just in their system. I even tried to pay, they wouldnt take it. One was not able to repair, so we did end up buying a tire, but wow these guys are great.

Number 2, I needed two radius arm bushings, all of the other tire companies where 4 times as much what les shuab charged me. This was the first time I went to them, and the reason I kept coming back. Shops bid this out 1800 to 2200 bucks in this area, shuab 475 bucks.

Number three, I had a cv boot blow out when I had them do 5100's, they paid for the cv axle and lowered the shocks to 2.1 instead of 2.8 for free, they thought it was the travel that caused the issue, have had no issue since. I have extra weight on the truck, so the 2.8 was hard on my axles. How is this their fault? It wasnt, but they paid it anyhow.

Find a tire shop like that and never look back.

 

[Atcer2018]

I understand what you are saying Burla. Runout isn’t something I know a lot about but it isn’t always something the tech does wrong. Any tire can be out of round from the manufacturer and cheap or bent rims are a cause also. Curmudgeon doesn’t specifically speak against tire quality or the abilities of the Walmart techs but he does infer that his experiences were due to Walmart. His closing line of visit a reputable tire dealer sums up his frustration. While it isn’t cheaper unless you get the same service is true my experience is tire techs aren’t the top tier of the auto wrenching world and National Tire and Battery, Pep boys and Discount tire employ the same skill level. I’ve had far more issues at the three mentioned above than Walmart. Your mileage may vary but I’ll stick with Walmart as my local store has a 41 year GM tech as the manager and a tech that has been in the tire industry for decades who I request every time.

 

[Atcer2018]

You can disagree 'till the cows come home, I don't care.
I made no blanket statements about Walmart, their employees,
or the tires they sell.
I posted only about my experiences.

Whatever you may have read in to that, or inferred from it, is
your issue.

Ah your avatar suits you well. Have a great day.

 

[Curmudgeon]

I understand what you are saying Burla. Runout isn’t something I know a lot about but it isn’t always something the tech does wrong. Any tire can be out of round from the manufacturer and cheap or bent rims are a cause also. Curmudgeon doesn’t specifically speak against tire quality or the abilities of the Walmart techs but he does infer that his experiences were due to Walmart. His closing line of visit a reputable tire dealer sums up his frustration. While it isn’t cheaper unless you get the same service is true my experience is tire techs aren’t the top tier of the auto wrenching world and National Tire and Battery, Pep boys and Discount tire employ the same skill level. I’ve had far more issues at the three mentioned above than Walmart. Your mileage may vary but I’ll stick with Walmart as my local store has a 41 year GM tech as the manager and a tech that has been in the tire industry for decades who I request every time.

I didn't infer, you infer. Look it up. You are thinking of "implied".

As I have already stated, you are responsible for what you "infer",
I will stand for my statement(s).

As far as "reputable" that word is defined as "having a good reputation". That could be another Walmart, but one you have researched to be reputable. I tried, didn't work in my case.
I gave Walmart a fair chance. They stood behind their work and their sale by making it good but in the end could not put me in a good set of tires through multiple attempts at 2 different locations.
That's not an implication, it's a fact.

Your experience has been different. Well, yay. The OP seems to be having an experience that more closely matches my experience than yours. Maybe you can help him.


EDIT: "Ah your avatar suits you well."
LOL! Yes it does, as does my username.

 

[Atcer2018]

I didn't infer, you infer. Look it up. You are thinking of "implied".

As I have already stated, you are responsible for what you "infer",
I will stand for my statement(s).

As far as "reputable" that word is defined as "having a good reputation". That could be another Walmart, but one you have researched to be reputable. I tried, didn't work in my case.
I gave Walmart a fair chance. They stood behind their work and their sale by making it good but in the end could not put me in a good set of tires through multiple attempts at 2 different locations.
That's not an implication, it's a fact.

Your experience has been different. Well, yay. The OP seems to be having an experience that more closely matches my experience than yours. Maybe you can help him.


EDIT: "Ah your avatar suits you well."
LOL! Yes it does, as does my username.

If you expect me to get into a ******* contest with a curmudgeon on an internet forum forget it. I’m well versed on the words you used and you inferred no matter what you want to state now. As an open forum we are all free to share our opinions and experiences, as such I offered a counter to your post for others who may read this thread. My fact is my local Walmart offers good service on tires at a great price so yeah yay for me. The OP stated the second shop informed him that one tire was the issue not the complete set. It happens and possibly a manufacturer defect regardless of who performed the install to which I offered a suggestion. And yes your username does have a certain predisposition. LOL

 

[yogibear18]

I kind of feel like I was shrugged off, being as busy as Discount tire was had a appointment at 2:15 didn’t leave till 4:45 or so and should of mentioned when I took it back at Walmart the tire manager actually worked on my truck and I asked them about them he had said they all balanced out he said he said of of chasing the heavy spot on the tires he started from scratch took off all the weights and went from there. Today I drove it and it was perfectly fine. a bit stumped in how to deal with this without being irritated.

 

[Atcer2018]

I kind of feel like I was shrugged off, being as busy as Discount tire was had a appointment at 2:15 didn’t leave till 4:45 or so and should of mentioned when I took it back at Walmart the tire manager actually worked on my truck and I asked them about them he had said they all balanced out he said he said of of chasing the heavy spot on the tires he started from scratch took off all the weights and went from there. Today I drove it and it was perfectly fine. a bit stumped in how to deal with this without being irritated.

Maybe ask Walmart if you can still purchase the road hazard warranty? Considering the issue you’ve had and the manager himself looked into it they may sell you the warranty. Ten bucks per tire is pretty cheap for flat repairs and peace of mind with a sketchy tire. Although a defective tire should be covered by the manufacturer warranty.

 

[Dean2]

Just because they can balance it out does not mean there isn't a major problem. Have them run the tire with you there. If it wobbles side to side or has a an up and down hump it is caused by the belts not being laid down square and true. There is a big difference between a tire having a bit more weight in one area that needs to be offset and trying to use weights to offset and out of true rotation.

Anyone that does this for a living immediately knows the difference. If you have a tire that needs more than 6 ounces to balance it, you have a mounting or tire issue.

Don't let them put you off make them replace it.

 

[jimboschnitz]

Don't have anything against Walmart but refuse to go there. My question to anyone who goes there
for tires is what's the draw? Is it because they're cheaper? It surely can't be they know more about
tires than a real tire dealer. I've never priced tires there because I've found very acceptable pricing at places that sell nothing but tires. It makes sense to me that if you want professional and knowledgeable service you'd go to a tire specialist instead of a giant retail store. Just one persons opinion.

 

[Scottly]

(Old guy post here)...I spent 13yrs selling and installing tires at Montgomery Ward. All brands, all sizes, all price rangers. Some things I learned: 1)Pirelli developed the clamshell tire mold and sold that technology to SOME other tire manufacturers. Those that use the old two-piece molds are more prone to runout due to the way the mold releases when the material is still at high temp and formable. 2) Runout CAN'T be balanced out. 3) Some runout is attributable to incorrect match mounting of the tire on the wheel. EVERYTHING has tolerance, wheels, tires, etc. If the high spot on a tire is matched to the high spot on a wheel, guess what? It looks like a ton of runout. Sometimes, rotating the tire on the rim 180deg will solve the problem. 4) Roadforce balancers are nice machines, but they can't fix stupid. 5) Michelin isn't perfect, but they are the only tire company I know of that has every tire hand checked at the end of the assembly line, by more than one person. 6) Good-for-a-years are poor quality tires. Always have been, probably always will be. They can build a nice blimp, but their tires suck. 7) Don't plug a tire. You risk air getting out of the butyl liner and forcing it's way in between plies, causing ply separations. Patch them from the inside.

 

[yogibear18]

Hey everyone update since last Saturday haven’t experienced anything I’ve posted about, still concerned