Well done Ram! Rumble Bee on the way.

[GeauxinUp]

Guys cried about no availability of a no etorque/no stop start hemi. Ram gives us that option. Guys cry it's not cool because they also gave us the 6.4L in a half ton guys were crying for and a street version of the TRX guys were crying for.

My guy, if you want the fastest truck get a HO Hurricane and forget the N/A Hemi all together. If you want old school cool, you just got offered it in three flavors.

I swear some of you would ***** about a goose that laid gold eggs because the eggs were hard to stack.

 

[GeauxinUp]

Can you 'build' a Rumble Bee on their web site yet??

I’m betting @AnthonyRI will let us know the minute they’re available for build

 

[ramffml]

Guys cried about no availability of a no etorque/no stop start hemi. Ram gives us that option. Guys cry it's not cool because they also gave us the 6.4L in a half ton guys were crying for and a street version of the TRX guys were crying for.

My guy, if you want the fastest truck get a HO Hurricane and forget the N/A Hemi all together. If you want old school cool, you just got offered it in three flavors.

I swear some of you would ***** about a goose that laid gold eggs because the eggs were hard to stack.

My guy, what I have been asking for, is a 6.4 in a simple, affordable truck. This toy thing is not it.

No crew cab, slammed suspension, no payload, can't tow anything.

 

[GeauxinUp]

My guy, what I have been asking for, is a 6.4 in a simple, affordable truck. This toy thing is not it.

No crew cab, slammed suspension, no payload, can't tow anything.

Next time I’ll have Mr Kuniskis reach out to you directly for your exact specifications!

P.S. Ram already has a 6.4 in a
2500 that sounds like what you need

 

[ramffml]

Next time I’ll have Mr Kuniskis reach out to you directly for your exact specifications!

P.S. Ram already has a 6.4 in a
2500 that sounds like what you need

I'm sure you think you're witty, but asking for them to pull the 6.4 off the shelf, which they put in literally every other vehicle they make (including the wrangler), and put that in their best selling/volume models... that's not an unreasonable ask.

The 2500 is a whole different truck, and the engine is tuned completely differently as well. I could just as well argue that guys wanting to buy the bumble bee would be better suited in a demon or trx; presumably there is some difference between the two that makes the one more attractive than the other.

 

[mikeru]

I just shake my head when I hear people ask what kind of gas mileage do these trucks get?
-Go look at a Toyota for Pete's sake.

I recently returned from a round trip from WA state to Florida in our 2020 Limited. Approximately 6000 miles. We averaged about 18 mpg, and went through more than 330 gallons of fuel. At an average price of around $3.50 per gallon (it was cheaper on the trip there last November) we spent just under $1200 on fuel. I've read that the TRX might eek out 14 mpg highway. If I'd been driving one of those instead, I'd have gone through almost a hundred more gallons and spent another $350 on fuel. Yeah, fuel economy does matter sometimes. But for normal daily use I'm really not concerned about it, even with gas prices at historic highs.

 

[Docwagon1776]

My guy, what I have been asking for, is a 6.4 in a simple, affordable truck. This toy thing is not it.

No crew cab, slammed suspension, no payload, can't tow anything.

Then why are you crying "Personally I think putting the 5.7 in this is a serious mistake, it waters down the TRX look." and about 0-60 times being too slow? You want a simple affordable truck that kicks ass at the drag strip but not be a toy?

You aren't a buyer of any of them, so you're crying somebody else may buy it? Is your imaginary TRX now not as cool? This isn't a thread about affordable tradesman trims, it's a toy thread.

They are making a 5.7L version for the same reason 6 cylinder (and 4 cylinder) Mustangs and Camaros always existed alongside the V8 and supercharged versions. They sell, and they sell a lot of them. Halo cars get people taking and excited, entry level sells in volume based on that buzz. It's ok for a truck to just be cool without being the fastest version.

It's *literally* what people were asking Ram to do, a return to old school cool V8s at the expense of worse raw numbers than turbo alternatives. And they'll sell every one of them they make because the people who buy these think they are cool.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Next time I’ll have Mr Kuniskis reach out to you directly for your exact specifications!

P.S. Ram already has a 6.4 in a
2500 that sounds like what you need

That's pretty much the thing. Anything a half ton is doing it's doing just fine with the 5.7L other than just being cooler. The motor isn't the limiting factor for towing or payload, and anybody working a truck hard enough to actually need the 6.4 should be stepping up to an HD anyway. The 6.4 in a half ton is very much into toy territory, not budget buys. The Pentastar does what the vast majority of buyers do.

Hell, I did more with a 318 and a 4 speed stick than most are doing with their 5.7 and 8 speed auto. Including me, I haven't really worked a truck "hard" in a long time, and when I did I had a 7.3L diesel.

 

[ramffml]

Then why are you crying "Personally I think putting the 5.7 in this is a serious mistake, it waters down the TRX look."

You aren't a buyer of any of them, so you're crying somebody else may buy it? Is your imaginary TRX now not as cool? This isn't a thread about affordable tradesman trims, it's a toy thread.

Somebody pee in your cornflakes Doc? It's an opinion, don't take it personally.

They are making a 5.7L version for the same reason 6 cylinder (and 4 cylinder) Mustangs and Camaros always existed alongside the V8 and supercharged versions. They sell, and they sell a lot of them. Halo cars get people taking and excited, entry level sells in volume based on that buzz. It's ok for a truck to just be cool without being the fastest version.

No. If GM put their 2.7 turbomax in their ZR1X body... that's what putting the 5.7 in a TRX body is like.

It's *literally* what people were asking Ram to do, a return to old school cool V8s at the expense of worse raw numbers than turbo alternatives. And they'll sell every one of them they make because the people who buy these think they are cool.

Old school v8's are great, no issue with them. My comment was about putting an entry level engine in a truck body/design that has up to now, been reserved for the top of the line engines. In my **opinion**, that waters down the design of the TRX/RHO.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Somebody pee in your cornflakes Doc? It's an opinion, don't take it personally.

And I'm sharing my opinion of the ridiculous opinions crying about it. I didn't design it, it's not personal to me.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Old school v8's are great, no issue with them. My comment was about putting an entry level engine in a truck body/design that has up to now, been reserved for the top of the line engines. In my **opinion**, that waters down the design of the TRX/RHO.

But it's not an entry level engine in a half ton. It's the former top option, the V6 was the base option.

How many people can tell at a glance which Camaro is a base model, SS, IROC, or ZL1? Enthusiasts know what to look for. If GM only sold the ZL1 they would have never came close to making a profit.

No, this is smart AF from a marketing perspective. It's *exactly* what Ram should be doing to make a profitable line up, a natural progression along multiple price points.

 

[ramffml]

And I'm sharing my opinion of the ridiculous opinions crying about it. I didn't design it, it's not personal to me.

You're getting really worked up about somebody else's opinion. It's your tone, and you're deliberate misreading of what is being written. Just chill, enjoy the discussion, we're not all going to agree but that doesn't mean we're "*****"ing or "crying".

 

[ramffml]

But it's not an entry level engine in a half ton. It's the former top option, the V6 was the base option.

How many people can tell at a glance which Camaro is a base model, SS, IROC, or ZL1? Enthusiasts know what to look for. If GM only sold the ZL1 they would have never came close to making a profit.

No, this is smart AF from a marketing perspective. It's *exactly* what Ram should be doing to make a profitable line up, a natural progression along multiple price points.

As I said; everyone could see the TRX widebody, big hips coming down the road and you knew it _meant_ something. It was the fastest kid on the block.

Now you see this truck and laugh because ... 5.7. It's silly. Like a little puppy trying to act grown up.

Ask DILLIGAF, he's figured it out too with the comment about the badge:

Well done Ram! Rumble Bee on the way.

When I was doing my research on V8s, when I was focusing on GMC, a video I watch pointed out the summation of my conclusions. GMC (Corvette vs the Trucks) is somehow now making the best and the worst V8s in industry history. Sarcasm is not necessary. If I had bought a V8, I'm sure I would be...

www.ramforum.com

 

[MrBonez]

It doesn't matter what they did 20 years ago. Putting the 5.7 in this is laughable. You're going to pull up beside any other half ton and either not get anywhere or worse, see his tailights over the super special hood on your super special bumble bee.

I guess if you like to look good coming in last, this is the truck for you.

0 to 60 in 6.1 lol

It's all based on the market and to sell these.
It will be something many want but also many simply cannot afford at the price a 392 or Hellcat version would sell for - Plus think of how much the insurance would be on the higher versions too.

So they are offering a "Toned Down" version for those that want a Rumble Bee but can't afford one that sets the standard for what it is.

Don't forget the so-called "Mystique" of a "Real" Rumble Bee" version with the Hellcat engine.

If they made these with the same production numbers as lower versions are going to be made, that just ruins it as something special to own in the first place - Which is one big selling point for anyone with deep enough pockets to grab one in the first place.
To a point it's a thing not too far from what can be described as vanity but hey - That sells too you know.

Same trick used to sell things like Camaro's, alot of these being an RS instead of an SS version which sells for more money and the expected insurance rates that go with it.

That's why there is a 2014 Shelby Mustang in the family here because it's owner wanted it because "It's a Shelby", so he got it.
Pic of it and us at a rest area, trailering it back home from the dealership.



And you can't deny out of all these which one you'd probrably want to have if you could get it..... Which is a big part of what's going on with the Rumble Bees too.

 

[ramffml]

Well each to their own. I'm headed off to pick up this glorious cummins tow pig.

 

[Docwagon1776]

As I said; everyone could see the TRX widebody, big hips coming down the road and you knew it _meant_ something. It was the fastest kid on the block.

Now you see this truck and laugh because ... 5.7. It's silly. Like a little puppy trying to act grown up.

Ask DILLIGAF, he's figured it out too with the comment about the badge:

Well done Ram! Rumble Bee on the way.

When I was doing my research on V8s, when I was focusing on GMC, a video I watch pointed out the summation of my conclusions. GMC (Corvette vs the Trucks) is somehow now making the best and the worst V8s in industry history. Sarcasm is not necessary. If I had bought a V8, I'm sure I would be...

www.ramforum.com

If the TRX is so meaningful to you, I assume you've bought one? No? Then Ram doesn't give a **** what you think it should be. I'm going to guess the guys who spend the money and like the truck will feel the same. Couldn't give a **** less. Crying about what other people do with their vehicles is even more performative whining for attention.


I'll get walked in my Camaro by a bunch of jelly bean shaped EVs on the market. Hell, most Corvettes won't win which is why the E-ray exists. There's more than just fast or the Charger EV would be a runaway hit. That's even more true in a sport truck, as you're starting with a stupid concept from the start. Let's take a heavy brick shaped vehicle and make it competitive with a sports sedan or coupe...

 

[ramffml]

If the TRX is so meaningful to you, I assume you've bought one? No? Then Ram doesn't give a **** what you think it should be. I'm going to guess the guys who spend the money and like the truck will feel the same. Couldn't give a **** less. Crying about what other people do with their vehicles is even more performative whining for attention.

Go for a walk, kiss your wife, play piano. You sound a little on edge.

 

[Mojo88]

Gotta admit, the Rumble Bee holds some interest for me. If the local dealer gets one, I'm gonna take it for a ride.

 

[Docwagon1776]

It's all based on the market and to sell these.
It will be something many want but also many simply cannot afford at the price a 392 or Hellcat version would sell for - Plus think of how much the insurance would be on the higher versions too.

Yeah, or guys who can easily afford it but want a more practical fun truck. The 6.4L is the sweet spot for me. I need more info before I decide I'm a buyer, but it's the first half ton Ram I've been interested in for awhile. I'd have jumped ship to Ford before this if I stepped back down from an HD.

I never seriously considered the TRX over the Power Wagon because of how I planned to use it.

I really hope they don't saddle these with the peanut tank like they did the TRX. Ford puts the big boy tank in the Raptor because they know people who actually use them as intended don't want to carry 5 jerry cans...

 

[Docwagon1776]

Go for a walk, kiss your wife, play piano. You sound a little on edge.

I'm just screwing around and making a point. If I was really on edge I'd not be online.

Did you buy your TRX yet?