Synthetic Oil

[RodRam]

imo as to amsoil in the SS 5-20 weight it is superior to all 5-20's I tried, the 5-30 is good too but if you didn't know what oil was in the truck you could not tell it from mobil1 or Pennzoil platinum in 5-30. Have not tried Quaker state. I'm sure Amsoil is a good oil and the signature series better than much of whats out there but I bet the lower xl and other is no better than wally world oils. I have fell out of love with the royal purple filter, I have had 3 episodes of fast ticking with it I never had one with fram ultra. It may be best to just go cheap, fram ultra and wally 5-30 like raven with QSUD or other API donut oil and change it every 4k,

 

[Nutshell]

imo as to amsoil in the SS 5-20 weight it is superior to all 5-20's I tried, the 5-30 is good too but if you didn't know what oil was in the truck you could not tell it from mobil1 or Pennzoil platinum in 5-30. Have not tried Quaker state. I'm sure Amsoil is a good oil and the signature series better than much of whats out there but I bet the lower xl and other is no better than wally world oils. I have fell out of love with the royal purple filter, I have had 3 episodes of fast ticking with it I never had one with fram ultra. It may be best to just go cheap, fram ultra and wally 5-30 like raven with QSUD or other API donut oil and change it every 4k,

That's what I did and it's working well. 5W30 QSUD and a Fram Ultra. Quietest my truck has been. In an overall opinion of noise, I think these motors are inherently noisey to begin with. This is my 3rd MDS Hemi, all 3 had some sort of noise. Never affected performance, just noise and the OCD it created in me.

 

[RodRam]

That's what I did and it's working well. 5W30 QSUD and a Fram Ultra. Quietest my truck has been. In an overall opinion of noise, I think these motors are inherently noisey to begin with. This is my 3rd MDS Hemi, all 3 had some sort of noise. Never affected performance, just noise and the OCD it created in me.

you ran 0-30 SS amsoil didn't you? if so, give us a comparison of the two Amsoil and QSUD, please

 

[R.L.K.]

Good info in the last 20 or so post .

Most know I'm running RL 40WT @ 3ea qt with 4ea qts of RL 30 wt cocktail .
Just wanted to give a quick update . I'm really liking it , pressures are consistent with my 7 qt fill of RL 5W -30 and the 7qts of PYB 20 wt ?

My current cocktail is 3-5 psig higher than the previously mentioned weights but consistent non the less .
Absolutely no MDS issues ...

 

[R.L.K.]

Idle temps & pressures after a drive home from work .
3EA RL 0W 40 & 4EA 5W -30 RL.

 

[Hemi395]

Idle temps & pressures after a drive home from work .
3EA RL 0W 40 & 4EA 5W -30 RL.

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Man I've never seen 44psi at idle warmed up like that....

 

[RodRam]

44 idle what is it at 60? Also reading on bob oil blog seems i read 5-20 will cool the motor better but seems thicker oil stays cooler so are they just wrong?

 

[Nutshell]

you ran 0-30 SS amsoil didn't you? if so, give us a comparison of the two Amsoil and QSUD, please

I'm lazy about doing a UOA so I have no scientific backup other than sound wise, the QSUD has the slight edge. When I ran Amsoil 0w30, it was with a Wix XP filter. That filter in my opinion was a game changer as I started the OC with an Amsoil filter and didn't like the start up noise I heard. Changed to the XP, major improvement. The guys at BITOG hate on that filter big time due to its efficiency rating. That made me nervous so this OC I have an Ultra installed.

My guess is the flow of the XP is simply better due to its low efficiency. That being said, how much efficiency do you need?

 

[R.L.K.]

44 idle what is it at 60? Also reading on bob oil blog seems i read 5-20 will cool the motor better but seems thicker oil stays cooler so are they just wrong?

As previously posted @ 55 mph it is 55 psig , @ 60 I believe it was 58 psig ...within a few psi of PYB 20 wt oil I ran a week ago .

Guys remember this , we are driving trucks here , not flying the space shuttle , our gauges are more than likely +- 5 - 7 psig to pass QC at the sweat shop manufacturer for Chrysler FIA . So factor that in before you are suprized of a 5 ish psi range ?differential.

 

[R.L.K.]

I'm lazy about doing a UOA so I have no scientific backup other than sound wise, the QSUD has the slight edge. When I ran Amsoil 0w30, it was with a Wix XP filter. That filter in my opinion was a game changer as I started the OC with an Amsoil filter and didn't like the start up noise I heard. Changed to the XP, major improvement. The guys at BITOG hate on that filter big time due to its efficiency rating. That made me nervous so this OC I have an Ultra installed.

My guess is the flow of the XP is simply better due to its low efficiency. That being said, how much efficiency do you need?

Buddy , I'm in the same boat as you are my friend , I've only 1ea uoa under my belt with my oil of choice ( which gets HAMMERED ) here on a regular basis ?

I'm mainly going off of feel and sound as well .
For MY RAM 5.7L , it sure Like's the Redline oil , others not so much .
I've never bashed on their oil to my knowledge ? If I have I'm sure someone will chime in with a copied post of mine .... I would congratulate them .

Thing is with Blackstone Lab saying I should exceed 10,000 miles with Redline oil then everyone crying about the added cost just shouldn't imo , it cost me $101.00 filter and oil to do my last oil change , that's $50.50 each 5k , most people are scared to death to go beyond grandpa's 3k RULE much less 5k and even fewer would extend to 10k + like me and many others based on lab results.

I do max of 2ea oci a year and I feel with what REDLINE OILS bring to the table , I'm in better shape than anyone getting it done @ the dealer with their bulk oil out of date , full of condensation , mixed with whatever the 10$ per hr guy said ( uuhh yeh put that in that 500 gal container dude ) .

You never know what your getting ( Quality wise ) at the dealer or oil change shop .
I suggest everyone pours their own .

I've worked @ quick oil Chang shops ! 30 yrs ago ... Wow ! I'd never let them or the dealer change my oil again , especially after what I delt with at a local dealer of mine .

well , I'm stepping off my soap box now ..... let the Redline bashing begin

 

[AFMoulton]

Buddy , I'm in the same boat as you are my friend , I've only 1ea uoa under my belt with my oil of choice ( which gets HAMMERED ) here on a regular basis ?

I'm mainly going off of feel and sound as well .
For MY RAM 5.7L , it sure Like's the Redline oil , others not so much .
I've never bashed on their oil to my knowledge ? If I have I'm sure someone will chime in with a copied post of mine .... I would congratulate them .

Thing is with Blackstone Lab saying I should exceed 10,000 miles with Redline oil then everyone crying about the added cost just shouldn't imo , it cost me $101.00 filter and oil to do my last oil change , that's $50.50 each 5k , most people are scared to death to go beyond grandpa's 3k RULE much less 5k and even fewer would extend to 10k + like me and many others based on lab results.

I do max of 2ea oci a year and I feel with what REDLINE OILS bring to the table , I'm in better shape than anyone getting it done @ the dealer with their bulk oil out of date , full of condensation , mixed with whatever the 10$ per hr guy said ( uuhh yeh put that in that 500 gal container dude ) .

You never know what your getting ( Quality wise ) at the dealer or oil change shop .
I suggest everyone pours their own .

I've worked @ quick oil Chang shops ! 30 yrs ago ... Wow ! I'd never let them or the dealer change my oil again , especially after what I delt with at a local dealer of mine .

well , I'm stepping off my soap box now ..... let the Redline bashing begin

Hey, screw em! If it works for YOUR truck good stuff! Everyone else can pound sand! I am going to run Amsoil 5W-30 SS right now, because funds are tight. But I still want a proven product. Got a heck of a deal on a 12 QT case of 5W-30 from a local dealer and I figured with my truck and the wife's car coming due, what the heck. If it works great awesome, if not, I'm only out $40 for the case, and $30 for the filters. 400 miles till initial Oil change. Then I'll test it about 3k in and see what Blackstone says.

I just appreciate all the knowledge and info you guys have posted. Everyone likes something different, pour what works for you!

 

[Mpgrimm2]

I'm mainly going off of feel and sound as well .
...
If I have I'm sure someone will chime in with a copied post of mine .... I would congratulate them.

Well, since you are going off of 'feel and sound' here's a
very Fake quote...

Anyone that uses KY oil products is a tight ass!

What do I win? [emoji1]

Up All Night Sleep All Day via my LG G4 on Tapatalk

 

[R.L.K.]

Hey, screw em! If it works for YOUR truck good stuff! Everyone else can pound sand! I am going to run Amsoil 5W-30 SS right now, because funds are tight. But I still want a proven product. Got a heck of a deal on a 12 QT case of 5W-30 from a local dealer and I figured with my truck and the wife's car coming due, what the heck. If it works great awesome, if not, I'm only out $40 for the case, and $30 for the filters. 400 miles till initial Oil change. Then I'll test it about 3k in and see what Blackstone says.

I just appreciate all the knowledge and info you guys have posted. Everyone likes something different, pour what works for you!

Well said ...

 

[R.L.K.]

Well, since you are going off of 'feel and sound' here's a very Fake quote...



What do I win? [emoji1]

Up All Night Sleep All Day via my LG G4 on Tapatalk

You Sir win a BIG FAT WOW !
LMFGSAO ! LOL

@ MPGRIMM2 , You Sir are digging DEEP my friend LOL !

I remember that Mike !
That's really funny !

BTW
I voice texted 13 times on my home tonight !
My new RA4 8.4 AN RADIO from Rick is working like a CHAMP !

I will not be updating the firmware anytime soon Sir !

Nice seeing you my friend over here on the ( SYN THREAD AGAIN ! )


So anyone want to take a stab @ what LMFGSAO Realy means ? I'll give a ( YOU ARE AWESOME TOKEN ) to anyone that figures that out !

Clue = my Pepaw use to say this , I'm from Arkansas ( GO HOGS ! ) I've only had ONE correct response in my 45 years , he was from Texas ....

 

[Mpgrimm2]

I sub'd the thread a while back hoping to see some folks with the v6 Pentastar posting in here but haven't seen it yet.

I have 1 more pre-paid dealer/FCA oil change on my VIN before I start looking at other options (4 oil changes for $80)

Up All Night Sleep All Day via my LG G4 on Tapatalk

 

[AFMoulton]

I sub'd the thread a while back hoping to see some folks with the v6 Pentastar posting in here but haven't seen it yet.

I have 1 more pre-paid dealer/FCA oil change on my VIN before I start looking at other options (4 oil changes for $80)

Up All Night Sleep All Day via my LG G4 on Tapatalk

So I had this same engine in my Jeep, and it loved Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 with a Fram Filter! No rattle, great fuel economy, and it wasn't expensive.

 

[R.L.K.]

I sub'd the thread a while back hoping to see some folks with the v6 Pentastar posting in here but haven't seen it yet.

I have 1 more pre-paid dealer/FCA oil change on my VIN before I start looking at other options (4 oil changes for $80)

Up All Night Sleep All Day via my LG G4 on Tapatalk

That's a great price for 4ea oci

 

[R.L.K.]

Well , it's a start

 

[smiley]

Buddy , I'm in the same boat as you are my friend , I've only 1ea uoa under my belt with my oil of choice ( which gets HAMMERED ) here on a regular basis ?

I'm mainly going off of feel and sound as well .
For MY RAM 5.7L , it sure Like's the Redline oil , others not so much .
I've never bashed on their oil to my knowledge ? If I have I'm sure someone will chime in with a copied post of mine .... I would congratulate them .

Thing is with Blackstone Lab saying I should exceed 10,000 miles with Redline oil then everyone crying about the added cost just shouldn't imo , it cost me $101.00 filter and oil to do my last oil change , that's $50.50 each 5k , most people are scared to death to go beyond grandpa's 3k RULE much less 5k and even fewer would extend to 10k + like me and many others based on lab results.

I do max of 2ea oci a year and I feel with what REDLINE OILS bring to the table , I'm in better shape than anyone getting it done @ the dealer with their bulk oil out of date , full of condensation , mixed with whatever the 10$ per hr guy said ( uuhh yeh put that in that 500 gal container dude ) .

You never know what your getting ( Quality wise ) at the dealer or oil change shop .
I suggest everyone pours their own .

I've worked @ quick oil Chang shops ! 30 yrs ago ... Wow ! I'd never let them or the dealer change my oil again , especially after what I delt with at a local dealer of mine .

well , I'm stepping off my soap box now ..... let the Redline bashing begin [emoji38]

Many off the shelf oils can do 10k for about 1/3 even 1/4 the cost. That is probably my biggest issue. You would need to push redline to 20k to make it pay.

 

[R.L.K.]

Trust me Sir , even though Blackstone Labs suggested I go 10k + on a oci I personally do not feel comfortable with going over 5k ! ☆☆☆EDIT ☆☆☆ my Pepaw in me I guess ☆☆☆☆☆
It took everything I had to push my last OCI to over 5k , then 6 ,7 , 8 + + plus thousand miles with REDLINE 5W -30 oils !
Look here now , when I drained it out , it was transparent ! Not burnt up , not thin as water ( like the dealer bulk oil )
I'm confident the oil I'm using today is better than most .....better than all ? Well I just don't know the answer to that .
I guess time will tell ?

For NOW the buzz seems to be Amsoil in 20 wt , , I'm certinly not against Amsoil ; however, I'd most likely not run any oil in a V-8 Engine in a 20 wt , ( other than a high detergent $ $ cheep $$ flush ) in my trucks engine ☺