Yes sir, I'm torn between that bumper and the body armor. Leaning towards the body armor for the winch mount mainly. But hey, pics are always welcome. I pulled my flares back off, and will be most likely staying that way, but that still sounds stupid. I like the looks of it in the pics I've seen, but I need winch capability.
I really want color match line x my whole truck. One day
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Mine is going to get the front and rear bumpers, the flares, the wheel arches under the flares (extending out about 1cm past the flares) and up to the door lines linex. I still want some nice shiny, but that will protect me from all the gravel roads.
Some more info on the westin bumper:
- Because of the way it mounts to both the front of the frame and the frame extensions (the "tow hook mounts"), you cannot use a body lift with it. Unless you dont get the skid plate, and as i mentioned, its a joke without the skid plate. If you really wanted that, you may be able to weld in an extension to the "upper skid plate".
- I was looking for ways you might get a winch on there. I feel like if you did a 'hidden winch' type setup like the one posted on these forums, it would be far too low to be useful in deep stuff. Unless you want to go scuba diving to find it. I am considering way down the line maybe fabbing a tray that would sit up on top of the 'shelf' that sticks out in front of the grille (above the light bars) and just mount the winch in the open. Jeep style lol. The bumper itself i wouldnt trust to take any yanking on, so you would need to construct a tray that extends down to the frame. That being said, if you look up the instructions for the outlaw bumper and the instructions for the skid plate too, you'll see that the bumper bolts to the front of the frame and the skid plate mounts to the back of those front frame plates. Not a lot of real estate to get anything else bolted on there. Im sure you could slide another 3/16ths plate inbetween or something, but there would definitely be some creativity involved in bracing.
- Someone mentioned westin may have cheaped out on coating to make the cost lower. It comes with a matte textured black powdercoat on it. I found the coating is fairly easily marked up, and it feels like it may chip easily. However, they do lay it on thickkk. I had to grind some off to weld, and theres a good amount on there.
- Almost every part of the bumper that isnt tubular is bolted on. I would definitely recommend bedliner on the bumper for longevity, but you may run into some problems here. You either have to encase the bolts in liner and never remove those parts again (lots of them im not sure why they didnt just weld it in anyway) or liner it and hope you can still fit the bolts through the holes and everything line up right after. Linex claims it goes on ~1/8" thick, so if you try to bolt two surfaces together that now have linex on them - in theory they are going to have a 1/4" spacer of bedliner between them now. I am dreading this right now, we will see how it comes out.
- Its worth mentioning that my bumper came with an upper skid plate that was bent the wrong way. It mounted to the bumper but the bottom edge was folded the wrong way by manufacturing. I called westin and got a new one sent out within 2 weeks to my door. GREAT customer service, but interesting mistake - i guess they shipped out a whole batch of wrong ones and kept getting calls from ram guys about it. I now have an extra skid plate/piece of 1/8th steel with black powder coating lol
Ill post photos of my rig when i get all this crap coated and mounted on the truck. I might be able to dig up some photos i took when i found out the bumper wouldnt let me run flares.