Talk me off the cliff....

[WilliamS]

Suicide isnt the answer

Ram, prefer a V8 over a twin turbo 6, looks more aggressive and masculine, and if anything, can slap on a blower, though think an ecoboost would make more FBO+tune

Now if it were Raptor vs Rebel and you intended to use it for Offroading, then I'd grab popcorn as I read the debates.

One thing I will say though is that Ecoboost pulls, like years ago when they were still 700lbs heavier, hit 90 like nothing

The raptor and rebel are very different animals. Equipment wise the raptor is better equipped in every category over the rebel.

 

[HitchHiker]

The raptor and rebel are very different animals. Equipment wise the raptor is better equipped in every category over the rebel.

Until the Rebel TRX is released next year...[emoji3]


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[iLLeStEyECoN]

I haven’t had the chance to scroll through this entire thread, but did the OP suggest that Fords are more reliable than our trucks? Because, the public recall information says differently.


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[VdMer]

For the heck of it. Post this question in reverse on the Ford forum. You’ll find the same; Fiat, Rust, electronics, reliability etc etc. I owned a 16 F-150 and now 2019 Ram. Google F-150 frozen latches, IWE, panoroofs etc and you’ll find balance. So, we can debate which is more reliable until
Blue in the face. Let’s call that a draw; since these are ‘best in class’. There is no debate however on which is the better Ride, has a richer set of amenities, achieves every day functionality and...fill in your view on looks. Night and Day between F-150, IMO. Not looking back.


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[Fatbob Frank]

As much as it galls me to say it, if I had to get a new truck and Ram wasn't an option I'd get a Chevy Trailboss....
(I need a shower now)

 

[WilliamS]

As much as it galls me to say it, if I had to get a new truck and Ram wasn't an option I'd get a Chevy Trailboss....
(I need a shower now)

Can we ban members? There is a certain line to be drawn in the sand, you jump way past it.

 

[corneileous]

My vote’s for the Ram. I’d probably own a Toyota Tundra quicker’n I’d own a Phord, or a Chibby. ‘Course, I’ve been a diehard Mopar guy since the turn of the new millennium so, I don’t pay attention to what might be better in the market at the time I’m in the market to buy a new pickup but yeah, we may have rust issues that could be debatable to improper maintenance but I’ll take a steel truck over an Aluma-Duty Phord any day...[emoji41]

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[Tarpoon75]

I haven’t had the chance to scroll through this entire thread, but did the OP suggest that Fords are more reliable than our trucks? Because, the public recall information says differently.


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My concern was more toward the brand new from the ground up model and the issues that are associated with a vehicle with a new model year. Rather than Ford is more reliable to Ram/Chevy/GMC.

 

[corneileous]

My concern was more toward the brand new from the ground up model and the issues that are associated with a vehicle with a new model year. Rather than Ford is more reliable to Ram/Chevy/GMC.

Yeah, that always does have the potential to be plagued with problems with first-run changes. I’d almost just recommend a new 2018 Limited. That’s what I got. Love it. Besides, I didn’t- and still don’t really care for that new body style either so that was an easy decision or me when I bought mine.


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[Jason53177]

I’m a die hard ford guy and bought a 2019 ram classic. Ford couldn’t touch the price of the bighorn I bought and it just feels like a better truck. I don’t like the ford engine e choices

 

[boblonben]

I'm on the fence for a 2019 limited Ram 1500, or Ford 150. I love the Ram, but the questionable reliability is really giving me cold feet. Am I being too cautious or have the majority of the growing pains been sorted? This is a 50k mistake I would rather avoid.

Questionable reliability? On the Ford maybe, not the RAM. Have MORE friends with new Fords that have many more real problems with their trucks than any of the RAM guys, self included. Can believe the people that buy the media mis-information that abounds !!!!!

 

[boblonben]

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Seems to be water leaking issues with the body seals in the sunroof and doors. I see a people complaining of transmissions failing or unable to switch out of 2 wheel or 4 wheel, a good number of issues with the infotainment system not working or requiring updates. I'm guessing that alot of this is growing pains with a new ground up model. Normally I would wait a year but I need a new vehicle now.

My dad, had multiple GMC/Chrysler products in the 70s and refuses to own any of them again. I suppose a little of fear/Hatred is rubbing off on me.



I plan on having it for the next 8-10 years.

oing on things from in the 70's ?? Need to catch up with real life here bud...

 

[bchap05]

Just depends who you talk to. You talk to a Ford group and they will be like Ram breaks down. Talk to us Ford breaks down. I've owned a Dakota, 3 rams, a Silverado, and a Ranger and honestly had no major issues with any. The Silverado had the most by far but it was lifted 6 inches so the rear end and gears going wasn't really Chevy's fault.

 

[JonnyQuest]

How about this? Since Ford is so expensive and you'll get more for your money with Ram, take some of that savings and buy the lifetime warranty. Then don't worry about any of it!

 

[Tarpoon75]

G

oing on things from in the 70's ?? Need to catch up with real life here bud...

lol....yeah, but when you've been told your whole life that GM/Chrysler were a communist plot to ruin America with products made by the devil, some times rational thought is a struggle.

 

[RammerHarder]

lol....yeah, but when you've been told your whole life that GM/Chrysler were a communist plot to ruin America with products made by the devil, some times rational thought is a struggle.

LOL... its not a struggle if you dont listen to the lies

 

[Lucy Girl]

I can’t speak for the 5th gens, I’m a die hard 4th gen owner and wouldn’t trade my truck for any 2019 make/model

Absolutely spot on. Love my 4th Gen also. Thanks for saying what I wanted to say.

 

[JD Martin]

lol....yeah, but when you've been told your whole life that GM/Chrysler were a communist plot to ruin America with products made by the devil, some times rational thought is a struggle.

Wow. That's hardcore.

Before the Ram I drove new Nissans for 20 years. I came from Chevy, when dealer inaction on issues on my new S10 made me give up on them.

First two had zero problems. Hardbody and then a first-year Frontier. Bought the Titan when it came out new and it was not quite as trouble free, but for a first year vehicle not bad. Mostly annoying stuff like plastic rattles and things like that. Bought that one on a lease, so when the lease was up (2008, in the middle of the great recession) I turned it in and bought another one with 20k less miles for about 10k less than my balloon on the leased one. It was a good truck all the way up until I traded it in on the Ram, but not completely without issues. Since I had Titans from brand new, here were the issues:'

1. Early years - 2004-2008 - undersized brakes. They did a brake recall on mine early on and made it a little better, but still the brakes were always undersized and I went through brake pads and rotors faster than any other truck I ever had.

2. Exhaust manifolds - cracked because they were thin steel, and had a heavy-ass catalytic converter hanging off the back, so the last cylinder collector would crack. Mine were both replaced under warranty (Nissan extended the warranty). They improved the newer ones slightly, but the improvement was minimal and they still cracked, up until they changed the truck in 2016.

3. Rear axle seals - always seeped. Some trucks were shipped with plugs in the rear axle so there's speculation the pressure blew the seals, but other trucks didn't have that and had the same problem. Just lived with it, it wasn't enough for me to spend $2k on new axles.

4. Cheap clamps on transmission & power steering hoses - clamps would fail and vehicle would suffer catastrophic transmission damage in worst-case scenario. If you looked at it, you could see the clamps working loose and the rubber hoses working their way off the metal. Never fixed; truck owner fix was to change the clamps or add a worm-clamp on every side.

5. Various rattles and squeaks, especially interior, that were ridiculously hard to solve. Never really fixed since the truck had no redesign until 2016.

I had all of those issues on mine, and most other people did too. Drivetrain on the truck was a dream - still one of the best I've ever had, and I've had a lot of vehicles over the last 30 years. Didn't have any real costs on the truck the first 9 years or so, then lots of things starting biting the dust around 150k miles. That's how I ended up with the Ram - good truck, good price.

Anyway, the point is that all trucks have their issues and weak spots. Some more than others but I would be surprised if there's any more or less problems on Rams than any other full-size.

 

[Garry71]

The new Ram 1500 looks just like the F150, I'll keep my 2015 Ram 2500. If I need to upgrade going forward it won't be another Ram.

 

[HitchHiker]

How about this? Since Ford is so expensive and you'll get more for your money with Ram, take some of that savings and buy the lifetime warranty. Then don't worry about any of it!

Lifetime Maxcare warranties are no longer available from FCA just FYI.