Stiffer Springs

[olyelr]

Haha yeah what I was getting at, was a dragging brake or one not engaging... I am just spit balling. Being a new truck it has more electronics then my 2011 so I can’t compare much. And seems to be a different animal altogether then my wagon.

yea, certainly could be electronic issue as well. Sensor or something. There is a lot of it in these new trucks for sure.
Keep the ideas coming for the gent!

 

[Trailmaker]

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/traction-control-braking.151939/#post-2145474

He has been looking for help since November 1st.

 

[McBroom]

Have you tried the same hill in 4wd yet?
I have a theory.
Let’s Bering in some peps who have a lift or worked on their suspension already. @22hemi13 @SOCAL @IRSmart @olyelr @McBroom @Maligator

A stiffer swaybar is needed with possibly a shorter end links.
I recommend a helwig swaybar.

Blue Mule

 

[Maligator]

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/traction-control-braking.151939/#post-2145474

He has been looking for help since November 1st.

Good god [emoji51]

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[Trailmaker]

A stiffer swaybar is needed with possibly a shorter end links.
I recommend a helwig swaybar.

Blue Mule

@ram1500rsm had to do this mod too when he lifted his truck.

 

[McBroom]

Hello I am looking into how to stiffen up my front end.I recently had my Ram dealer install a Mopar 2 inch lift on a 2019 Quad Cab 4x4 Laramie.Now on most turns when the truck leans the Traction control ESC kicks in.The techs can not figure it out.they have changed speed sensors,Yaw sensor,steering angle sensor.Still the same I sense the front end is too soft and leans too much.So I am asking if anyone knows if maybe the springs from a different model,Crew Cab ,Rebel,ORP springs may be stiffer to keep the ESC from engageing because it senses the truck leaning too much.I am grasping but Ram techs are lost as well.Any input would be much appreciated.

A stiffer swaybar is needed with possibly a shorter end links.
I recommend a helwig swaybar.
Front and rear upgraded swaybars with greatly improve the handling of the truck.
I think @SoCal @Pull Ya will agree too.
Blue Mule

 

[Trailmaker]

A stiffer swaybar is needed with possibly a shorter end links.
I recommend a helwig swaybar.
Front and rear upgraded swaybars with greatly improve the handling of the truck.
I think @SoCal @Pull Ya will agree too.
Blue Mule

I tried to get SoCal but I go SOCAL instead.

 

[McBroom]

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/traction-control-braking.151939/#post-2145474

He has been looking for help since November 1st.

Wow 1st time I've seen the post. Maybe hes still active in here

Blue Mule

 

[McBroom]

I tried to get SoCal but I go SOCAL instead.

Yeah both of those guys are close friends of mine.

Blue Mule

 

[Wiendog]

Thanks for all the info.I have not tried the turning in 4 wheel. I have with all your help seriously considered the Helwig sway bar.All the sensors have been replaced and recalibrated to no avail.Techs are now supposedly going back to ram engineering for some input.I am going to give them a little more time before I install the sway bar.I have checked the existing it is tight.It has been back to dealer at least 6-8 times since install for all the sensor checks and readings they are still lost.

 

[revitupmoto33]

Sounds like the dealer must have nicked or pinched a sensor/wire. I’m lifted roughly 2.5 front and even when I’ve ran without sway bar and taken turns on the street and feels like the truck is going to roll it hasn’t kicked on. Only time stability control kicks in for me is in the desert playing around, which I’ve ran a bypass to completely disable that annoying feature. I’d take it back to the dealer.

 

[revitupmoto33]

Thanks for all the info.I have not tried the turning in 4 wheel. I have with all your help seriously considered the Helwig sway bar.All the sensors have been replaced and recalibrated to no avail.Techs are now supposedly going back to ram engineering for some input.I am going to give them a little more time before I install the sway bar.I have checked the existing it is tight.It has been back to dealer at least 6-8 times since install for all the sensor checks and readings they are still lost.

I'm sure you have already done this but check all the lines going to the sensors. Look VERY close for any scuffs or flat spots, could easily be overlooked.
Also check how much slack and how the lines are secured (is a fastener too tight around it) and does the line get stretched at full droop, full lock or full droop with wheel locked.

 

[ram1500rsm]

@ram1500rsm had to do this mod too when he lifted his truck.

I dont remember adding shorter links, longer sure, but not shorter
Shorter will be needed if youre lowering, longer if you lift.

 

[ram1500rsm]

Sorry i dont know much about the 5th gen suspension. I see the OP mentioned the dealer installed a 2" Mopar lift.
This cant be the only 5th gen truck lifted 2". Anybody else reporting similar issues after a lift?

OP, have you checked your pcm for stored soft codes? You've mentioned the dealer have replaced sensors and recalibrated everything. Can you validate yourself there are no codes present?

Curious to see how your alignment print out looks like.

Whats included in this 2" lift ?

I cant think of anything that will induce this behavior saved for a really bad aligment or your truck happens to be sensitive to the lift for some strange reason or your dealer screwed something up, maybe they forgot to torque your control arms front and rear though i'd figure if this was the case the truck will wander all over the place.

I had a Toyota FJC that did this after switching from AT tires to MT tires with a 2.5" lift. Fjs were notorious for issues like this after 2.5" lifts, but most could be corrected recalibrating the yaw sensors. Aggresive MT tires combined with positive camber and little caster will induce some of this erratic behavior. UCAs were needed in that app to give it more caster and run a more neutral 0 camber. I've carried the concept in anything ive lifed with IFS.

 

[McBroom]

I dont remember adding shorter links, longer sure, but not shorter
Shorter will be needed if youre lowering, longer if you lift.

Your right I got it backwards.

Blue Mule

 

[Wiendog]

lift comes with fox shocks that is how they get the lift in the front and new upper control arms with rear spacer on top of springs.No codes they have replaced speed sensors both front,yaw sensor and steering angle sensor.Only engages ESC at higher speeds on sharper turns. On curvy roads.The outside front brake will engage.Other than that truck handles fine,un noticeable at low speeds.Again it seems when the truck leans into higher speed turns,it does not seem to do it I have my foot already on the brakes.

 

[Wiendog]

also previously had2" spacers in the front on top of strut and bottom of back spring same height lift same tires worked for months no ESC issues,Changed it out when Mopar came out with there lift for warranty reasons.Funny that is when it all started.They also replaced bad steering rack at the same time.I do not nor does the dealer have a print out for the alighnment which I also suspect even though truck feels fine no pull or any other symptom of miss alignment.

 

[Wiendog]

also previously had2" spacers in the front on top of strut and bottom of back spring same height lift same tires worked for months no ESC issues,Changed it out when Mopar came out with there lift for warranty reasons.Funny that is when it all started.They also replaced bad steering rack at the same time.I do not nor does the dealer have a print out for the alighnment which I also suspect even though truck feels fine no pull or any other symptom of miss alignment.

 

[Wiendog]

also previously had2" spacers in the front on top of strut and bottom of back spring same height lift same tires worked for months no ESC issues,Changed it out when Mopar came out with there lift for warranty reasons.Funny that is when it all started.They also replaced bad steering rack at the same time.I do not nor does the dealer have a print out for the alighnment which I also suspect even though truck feels fine no pull or any other symptom of miss alignment.

 

[Wiendog]

also previously had2" spacers in the front on top of strut and bottom of back spring same height lift same tires worked for months no ESC issues,Changed it out when Mopar came out with there lift for warranty reasons.Funny that is when it all started.They also replaced bad steering rack at the same time.I do not nor does the dealer have a print out for the alighnment which I also suspect even though truck feels fine no pull or any other symptom of miss alignment.