2019 Ram 6.7 using oil in between changes

[Matt Nedbalek]

Not sure if this is exactly where I should post this on here.
Our 2019 ram 2500 6.7 Cummings Is using oil in between changes. Probably should’ve changed it sooner but I was going off the DIC And it said it had 50% oil life left at 8000 miles but it was a quart low. So I changed it and have drove it another 8000 miles getting ready to change it again and it is a quart low again. Out of the 16,000 miles that are on the truck 9000 of it have been towing trailers up to 14,000 pounds quite a bit.

Is this normal to be going through that much oil?

 

[RaptorHD]

Nope... What type of oil do you use?

A good friend of mine works for Caterpillar service, needless to say he has worked plenty of the Cummins engines, it seems that if you use Rotella you will use oil.. I used to use that oil all the time until we had a conversation about it.
He recommended using Valvoline Blue synthetic, even though its not in your manual, Remember this, Companies like Rotella paid to get their product into the owners manuals... Valvoline is recommended by Cummins.
if your towing heavy I would not even consider running my oil over 5k miles, there is just so much soot that will be generated when hauling.. As a rule, if I am just driving around I go 7k between oil changes, if I am hauling its 5k,,,Screw what the filter status says...

 

[crash68]

At 16K miles you barely have the engine broke in, keep working it hard. You don't need to change the oil so soon especially if your running a full synthetic. If your concerned about the oil life have it tested. Anything less than 7500 miles is an absolute waste of money.
FYI: the oil life monitor on the dash is not a sensor, the number is calculated using engine run time, temperature, rpms, etc. Much like the oil pressure and temperature readings on the dash.

 

[RaptorHD]

At 16K miles you barely have the engine broke in, keep working it hard. You don't need to change the oil so soon especially if your running a full synthetic. If your concerned about the oil life have it tested. Anything less than 7500 miles is an absolute waste of money.
FYI: the oil life monitor on the dash is not a sensor, the number is calculated using engine run time, temperature, rpms, etc. Much like the oil pressure and temperature readings on the dash.

Maybe for a daily driver --CAR-- but not a diesel and sure as hell not one that has been pulling hard...

 

[Matt Nedbalek]

Nope... What type of oil do you use?

A good friend of mine works for Caterpillar service, needless to say he has worked plenty of the Cummins engines, it seems that if you use Rotella you will use oil.. I used to use that oil all the time until we had a conversation about it.
He recommended using Valvoline Blue synthetic, even though its not in your manual, Remember this, Companies like Rotella paid to get their product into the owners manuals... Valvoline is recommended by Cummins.
if your towing heavy I would not even consider running my oil over 5k miles, there is just so much soot that will be generated when hauling.. As a rule, if I am just driving around I go 7k between oil changes, if I am hauling its 5k,,,Screw what the filter status says...

Changed the oil with the recommended Rotella 10w30 full synthetic

 

[Matt Nedbalek]

Changed the oil with the recommended 10W-30 shell Rotella full synthetic

 

[crash68]

Maybe for a daily driver --CAR-- but not a diesel and sure as hell not one that has been pulling hard...

believe what you want but if you get it tested you'll find out otherwise. A daily driven car doesn't hold 3 gallons of oil either.

 

[tjfdesmo]

The new CGI Cummins in the Rams have low tension rings, and are more prone to using some oil. Working it hard when new helps. I am running 10K mile OCI. Plenty of hotshotters are going 15K. My buddy has an '18 4500 that is approaching 400K miles, and his prior 3500 was traded at 360K, both running 15K intervals.

 

[RaptorHD]

believe what you want but if you get it tested you'll find out otherwise. A daily driven car doesn't hold 3 gallons of oil either.

Probably the dumbest thing I have read.. Who ever said a car holds 3 gallons? and Yes I know our trucks do, some of mine hold alot more than 3 gallons, more like eight gallons. That was not the context I was speaking--reading comprehension is a wonderful thing..

@ Matt Nedbalek
Congrats on running Rotella, yeah I used to,,if you talk to Cummins, they do not recommend it, they actually recommend Valvoline Blue, I will Trust Cummins over Dodge, more so because its a "Cummins" engine---go figure..
you can even go to Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Valvoline-Premium-15W-40-Heavy-Motor/dp/B01B8C589Q/?&tag=davesoilchange-20 it even confirms it... But you can also google this, a little research never hurts anyone..

BTW, yeah getting it tested, yup done that, I have also worked on plenty of diesels, been to a few schools for diesels too, not as much experience as my friend at CAT, I still have 6 various diesels here, so aside from driving a "little" diesel I think I have a bit more experience where this is concerned, probably on a few diesels you have never even heard of...

So, in summary, if this engine was designed and produced by Ram, I would follow their recommendations, its not, so go to the source! Same goes if your driving a Duramax, don't ask GM, ask Isuzu!

 

[RaptorHD]

The new CGI Cummins in the Rams have low tension rings, and are more prone to using some oil. Working it hard when new helps. I am running 10K mile OCI. Plenty of hotshotters are going 15K. My buddy has an '18 4500 that is approaching 400K miles, and his prior 3500 was traded at 360K, both running 15K intervals.

Yeah, I have seen the insides of engines run like that, that is why I would never buy a used truck from anyone that pulls with them for a living..

 

[Matt Nedbalek]

At 16K miles you barely have the engine broke in, keep working it hard. You don't need to change the oil so soon especially if your running a full synthetic. If your concerned about the oil life have it tested. Anything less than 7500 miles is an absolute waste of money.
FYI: the oil life monitor on the dash is not a sensor, the number is calculated using engine run time, temperature, rpms, etc. Much like the oil pressure and temperature readings on the dash.

Probably the dumbest thing I have read.. Who ever said a car holds 3 gallons? and Yes I know our trucks do, some of mine hold alot more than 3 gallons, more like eight gallons. That was not the context I was speaking--reading comprehension is a wonderful thing..

@ Matt Nedbalek
Congrats on running Rotella, yeah I used to,,if you talk to Cummins, they do not recommend it, they actually recommend Valvoline Blue, I will Trust Cummins over Dodge, more so because its a "Cummins" engine---go figure..
you can even go to Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Valvoline-Premium-15W-40-Heavy-Motor/dp/B01B8C589Q/?&tag=davesoilchange-20 it even confirms it... But you can also google this, a little research never hurts anyone..

BTW, yeah getting it tested, yup done that, I have also worked on plenty of diesels, been to a few schools for diesels too, not as much experience as my friend at CAT, I still have 6 various diesels here, so aside from driving a "little" diesel I think I have a bit more experience where this is concerned, probably on a few diesels you have never even heard of...

So, in summary, if this engine was designed and produced by Ram, I would follow their recommendations, its not, so go to the source! Same goes if your driving a Duramax, don't ask GM, ask Isuzu!

 

[Matt Nedbalek]

Looks live Valvoline is the way to go. So the 2019 calls for 10w-30 full synthetic I should probably stick with this?

 

[tjfdesmo]

Yeah, I have seen the insides of engines run like that, that is why I would never buy a used truck from anyone that pulls with them for a living..

LOL, yeah, right. So Blackstone reports coming back A-OK, and never a hint of sludge or problems means nothing, right? When the valve lash was checked on his 2015 the top end was spotless. GMAFB

 

[RaptorHD]

LOL, yeah, right. So Blackstone reports coming back A-OK, and never a hint of sludge or problems means nothing, right? When the valve lash was checked on his 2015 the top end was spotless. GMAFB

Yeah,,Right!

I would love to open up your engine, as well as look at your oil analysis...

Yeah I have seen plenty of "Clean" diesels, detergents do that, does not mean you oil has low soot content.. You ever check your thickening at those miles? Thats an industry term for soot in your oil btw, and it uses a special tool for that..

 

[Forrest Alley]

My first Cummins was a 1992 2500 it too was using oil when i first got it. i took it to to the Cummins Shop not the dealer to talk to them about it and to make sure I was using the right oil, ( Cummins Blue ). They said I was not getting the engine hot enough to set the rings. Thay advised me to get a heavy load on my trailer and head to the mountains. I borrowed a friend tractor and did just that, problem solved. They said the rings were heavy duty and needed to get hot to set. Never used any more oil after that. And I did the exact same thing when I got my 2001 2500 Cummins. The engines have changed since my first 12 valve version, you might just call Cummins and see what they say. Good luck hope this helps.

 

[heefageLA]

I dont have a Diesel, but this sure is an interesting conversation.
I have heard from several diesel owners of going many more miles before an oil change than a gas burner.

 

[MoparProud]

Looks live Valvoline is the way to go. So the 2019 calls for 10w-30 full synthetic I should probably stick with this?

Point 1: don’t listen to Raptor. “Rotella burns but Premium Blue doesn’t” is...stupid talk from someone that doesn’t know how engines work.

Point 2: you can change oil brand if you’d like, I personally run Premium Blue in my trucks. Rotella is pretty much the big name in over the road trucks. Brand doesn’t make it burn.

Point 3: keep driving it. I don’t know where you live, but take some weight and run it up the steepest grade you can find. At 16k it’s not really worked in yet, keep driving it and don’t worry.

Enjoy your truck, be aware of the CP4 and other than that it will give you many miles of enjoyment.

 

[RaptorHD]

Point 1: don’t listen to Raptor. “Rotella burns but Premium Blue doesn’t” is...stupid talk from someone that doesn’t know how engines work.

Point 2: you can change oil brand if you’d like, I personally run Premium Blue in my trucks. Rotella is pretty much the big name in over the road trucks. Brand doesn’t make it burn.

Point 3: keep driving it. I don’t know where you live, but take some weight and run it up the steepest grade you can find. At 16k it’s not really worked in yet, keep driving it and don’t worry.

Enjoy your truck, be aware of the CP4 and other than that it will give you many miles of enjoyment.

Are you just a *****, or did you work at it your whole life?

And where did I say Rotella burns oil and Valvoline doesn't? Never said it..You are a friggin idiot.. I did say my friend works at CAT, all the Cummins engines that had Rotella used oil, you don't have to burn it to use it, and YES ANY OIL CAN BURN--even synthetic..

I also stated that when you call Cummins---ACTUALLY call Cummins, they will tell you to run Valvoline Blue..

There is a big difference between an engine that runs gallons---GALLONS of lube oil, with multiple oil filters or centrifugal filtration than what you run on your little truck. Do I know Diesels? Yes I do, Do I know oil? sure, not as much as my ex-wife, she was a Chemist at Pennzoil--Yeah, that's right too.. I used to work for Thermo Scientific too (you can look them up) I worked the oil fields.. You want me to educate you about Nuclear power, worked that too..

I am glad you think you know alot, I actually have a wonderful work history in those fields, and I have a nifty thing called reading comprehension..

 

[RaptorHD]

Point 1: don’t listen to Raptor. “Rotella burns but Premium Blue doesn’t” is...stupid talk from someone that doesn’t know how engines work.

Point 2: you can change oil brand if you’d like, I personally run Premium Blue in my trucks. Rotella is pretty much the big name in over the road trucks. Brand doesn’t make it burn.

Point 3: keep driving it. I don’t know where you live, but take some weight and run it up the steepest grade you can find. At 16k it’s not really worked in yet, keep driving it and don’t worry.

Enjoy your truck, be aware of the CP4 and other than that it will give you many miles of enjoyment.

Here is a wonderful read: https://xlmechanicalservice.ca/technical-info/cummins-oil-change-interval/

It was written by a guy that knows alot more about your engine than you will ever know..

I am sure you will have some type of retort to this article, insults etc,,go for it, I was in the Military, I have tough skin..

 

[LouM]

You all can have your P---- ing contest all I'll say is using a quart in 8000 miles isn't bad in my book.
I've been around engines for along time, long enough to remember when IH used to say that quart every 500 miles was normal.