2" Level and rear spring choices?

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Hi all, i recently traded in my 2015 Laramie for a 2019 new style Longhorn. I love the truck except i am not satisfied with the suspension. Don't get me wrong, the ride is positively luxurious, Like a BMW, but honestly isn't quite what i want in a truck. I am using the truck primarily as a commuter at the moment but also do some regular hauling of engines and axles, towing old cars, cruising into the desert, etc. Based on previous trucks I thought the rake on the Rams was a little funny but i was pretty shocked at how much it squatted with 500#-1000# in the bed. I am very happy with my new Ram but could use some input on options for suspension "upgrades" (admittedly subjective term.)

My 2015 Laramie was over 100K miles and in need of some new parts so I ended up pulling most of the suspension and replacing with the Mopar (Superlift) 4" kit with Bilsteins. I found a smoking deal on the kit and paid ~$800. Was very happy with the performance. The Bilsteins are a more firm ride than the stock shocks but still very compliant and the Superlift rear springs were progressive and excellent. To me the setup was much better: more level, more firm and less squating under minor loads.

So enter the 2019 new style Ram. This time i think i want more like 2.5" in the front and 1"-1.5" in the back. I currently have a 2" difference front to back. I really want the progressive lift springs in back combined with Bilstein shocks all around. Basically i want the Mopar P5155797 but for the 2019 DT, not DS.

All i see so far is the Mopar Fox kit 77072424AB. It's a bit expensive at ~$1100 but that's because of Fox shocks. I understand from this list that the kit now includes a front spacer for leveling but nothing for the soft rear springs. So, a couple of questions for the knowledgeable folks out there.

How does the tuning on the Fox shocks in the Mopar kit compare to Bilstein 5100s? Are they similar? I always thought of Fox as an offroad leader with a much stiffer shock but other threads suggest they ride like stock.

Does anyone make a progressive rate rear spring for the 2019 -2020 DT? Superlift says they don't support this platform yet so their SLF-140 et al are not an option? Has anyone tried those on the DT?

All inputs welcome. Thanks for listening ;-)
 

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Excuse my ignorance, as I am sure its something obvious...but what is DT and DS?
 

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LOL #1000 is a minor load? 1/2 ton = 2000 divided by 2 = #1000, which the 1500 is a 1/2 ton truck so that is a max load.

Sorry I can't be of any more help on the 5th gen as far as to what you are looking for. I just thought it was funny that a #1000 was a minor load.
Kits should be out before long I would think as the 5th gen is a couple of years old now, but I am sure Covid has set back the launch of many new products.
 

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Excuse my ignorance, as I am sure its something obvious...but what is DT and DS?

One is the 4th gen Ram (also now called the Classic), the other is the 5th gen Ram.
 
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Excuse my ignorance, as I am sure its something obvious...but what is DT and DS?

DS is the model code FCA gave to the 2009-2018 +Classic trucks. Gen 4 i guess.

DT is the model code FCA gave to the 2019-2020 new body style trucks. Gen 5
 
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LOL #1000 is a minor load? 1/2 ton = 2000 divided by 2 = #1000, which the 1500 is a 1/2 ton truck so that is a max load.

<grin> Yes i know it is a bit funny but the 1/2 ton truck category has been rated to carry much more than 1000# for long time. My 2015 was rated at ~1450# payload and my 2019 new style is rated at 1840#. In maximum configuration the 2020 1500 is rated at 2300#. The last big load i hauled was a '55 Fairlane. It came with two motors, an extra rear end a a bunch of parts. I figure the car and trailer were ~3500# (w/o motor) and the load in the bed was pushing 1500#. The '15 hauled it just fine. That is a lot i know but when i picked up a new 300 I-6 for my sons Ford i think the bed squatted close to 3" and that was <500#. So, better springs... ;-)
 
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By the way for anyone who bothered to read my verbose intro i have found that the Mopar part numbers for the front struts are the same for both 2015 and new 2019. Also true for the rear springs, which are available in *many* flavors. The front springs are different. SO, currently i am leaning toward a set of Bilstein 5100s and the Icon 1.5" rear lift springs, which are a progressive design. Just need time and money. :)
 

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By the way for anyone who bothered to read my verbose intro i have found that the Mopar part numbers for the front struts are the same for both 2015 and new 2019. Also true for the rear springs, which are available in *many* flavors. The front springs are different. SO, currently i am leaning toward a set of Bilstein 5100s and the Icon 1.5" rear lift springs, which are a progressive design. Just need time and money. :)

The rear springs are the same as the 4th gen?
If so tuff truck has progressives, but I don't know if they have one with a lift.
 

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One is the 4th gen Ram (also now called the Classic), the other is the 5th gen Ram.

DS is the model code FCA gave to the 2009-2018 +Classic trucks. Gen 4 i guess.

DT is the model code FCA gave to the 2019-2020 new body style trucks. Gen 5


Thanks fellas. Knew it was something stupid. Id rather just go 4th gen or 5th gen lol.
 
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