2011 ram and jb headers

[hemi_hawk]

I keep wanting to buy these but I have read that you have do all sorts of trickery such as adjusting ur air fuel ratio and a lot of other stuff to get the truck running right after u add one. Can any one shed light on this for me

 

[Hemi Joe]

I keep wanting to buy these but I have read that you have do all sorts of trickery such as adjusting ur air fuel ratio and a lot of other stuff to get the truck running right after u add one. Can any one shed light on this for me

I assume you're talking about the JBA shorty's, guys were running them before tuners were available with no issues.

 

[hemi_hawk]

I assume you're talking about the JBA shorty's, guys were running them before tuners were available with no issues.

Ya sorry the jba shorty headers...... So just bolt them up and go huh ? Speaking of tuners is that diablo sport trinity any good ?

 

[Hemi Joe]

Ya sorry the jba shorty headers...... So just bolt them up and go huh ? Speaking of tuners is that diablo sport trinity any good ?

Yes, it's good.

 

[TXKID]

The trinity is good if you wanna go with a custom tune later on, if you but it from hemifever he includes a free tune with the product but if you're just going canned tunes the bully dog seems to have stronger canned tunes. Neither is truly needed though for the headers though.

 

[hemi_hawk]

ok so if you had to choose between the bullydog and the trinity which would be the better and why ?


sorry if this has been asked over and over I only visit this sight about 2 times a year and my search isn't really getting me any place ( the search function that is )


also has anyone used the jba shorties and are they any good ?

 

[Hemi Joe]

ok so if you had to choose between the bullydog and the trinity which would be the better and why ?


sorry if this has been asked over and over I only visit this sight about 2 times a year and my search isn't really getting me any place ( the search function that is )


also has anyone used the jba shorties and are they any good ?

If you plan on getting a custom tune, get the Trinity. If you want to data log, get the trinity. If you're fine with canned tunes, get the Bully Dog. Hard to say which one is better. I know the Trinity still has issues with raising WOT shift points. From the research I've done, the Bully Dog has better gauges. With that said, once I get headers and the rest of the bolt ons I plan on doing, I may buy a Trinity as well, and get some CMR tuning. I can tell you without a doubt, that the Bully Dog with the performance tune is the best mod I've done to date. It runs really strong.

 

[Hemi Joe]

ok so if you had to choose between the bullydog and the trinity which would be the better and why ?


sorry if this has been asked over and over I only visit this sight about 2 times a year and my search isn't really getting me any place ( the search function that is )


also has anyone used the jba shorties and are they any good ?

BTW, everybody seems happy with the JBA shorty's that I've seen, just make sure you get the ceramic coated ones. The JBA's have proper D-shaped flanges which match the exhaust ports, the BBK's do not. Plus the BBK's won't fit 4x4's.

 

[hemi_hawk]

BTW, everybody seems happy with the JBA shorty's that I've seen, just make sure you get the ceramic coated ones. The JBA's have proper D-shaped flanges which match the exhaust ports, the BBK's do not. Plus the BBK's won't fit 4x4's.

whats wrong with non ceramic coated headers ? do they rust real easy ?

also whats a canned tune ? what I do know is power commanders so I hope I don't loose any one when I say: with either of these can I go online and get "maps" or do I have to take it to a garage and have them dyno and tune it their ? also I take it some guys will send you custom tune settings, what are these running ?

 

[Hemi450hp]

BTW, everybody seems happy with the JBA shorty's that I've seen, just make sure you get the ceramic coated ones. The JBA's have proper D-shaped flanges which match the exhaust ports, the BBK's do not. Plus the BBK's won't fit 4x4's.

The BBK flanges have been corrected and now have the proper D shape ports. That issue was fixed months ago. But they are only for the 2WD's. Any 2wd owner considering shorty headers, I would save the money and go with BBK. If you want true performance, then save up for some longtubes.

Tuning is not required with either, but it will help.

 

[hemi_hawk]

hmm so looking up tuners and cannot make my mind up on the bully or the diablosport trinity

 

[Hemi450hp]

Both have a nice monitor, but the Diablo is more advanced. It is custom tunable and is also universal so it will work on many different makes and models (only 1 at a time though).

The Bullydog s nice because it is simple. Its canned tunes runs strong, and they are not having any issues with raising shift points like the Diablo is. Both units are going to show a nice improvement for your truck, so in the end, it really comes down to whether you need the custom tuning or not.

 

[hemi_hawk]

btw whould I get the jba silver ceramic or titanium ceramic ? is their any difference

 

[Hemi450hp]

The silver ceramic has a glossy silver finish and the titanium has a matte grey finish. The titanium is also supposed to have a 200* hotter temp rating.

 

[hemi_hawk]

silver it is then

 

[Kelli25]

Both have a nice monitor, but the Diablo is more advanced. It is custom tunable and is also universal so it will work on many different makes and models (only 1 at a time though).

The Bullydog s nice because it is simple. Its canned tunes runs strong, and they are not having any issues with raising shift points like the Diablo is. Both units are going to show a nice improvement for your truck, so in the end, it really comes down to whether you need the custom tuning or not.

Considering there really isn't much someone can do to a 2012 5.7 as far as engine mods go, what reason would there be for custom tuning over a canned tune such as the Bully Dog?

 

[hemi_hawk]

so once I get these headers is the install easy or do I need to pull the engine or ???

 

[hemi_hawk]

btw we are talking about the bully dog hemi plus tuner correct ?

 

[garner]

Considering there really isn't much someone can do to a 2012 5.7 as far as engine mods go, what reason would there be for custom tuning over a canned tune such as the Bully Dog?

You can do a lot to a 2012. Heads, cam, headers, intake, forced induction or nitrous, etc

 

[Hemi Joe]

The BBK flanges have been corrected and now have the proper D shape ports. That issue was fixed months ago. But they are only for the 2WD's. Any 2wd owner considering shorty headers, I would save the money and go with BBK. If you want true performance, then save up for some longtubes.

Tuning is not required with either, but it will help.

Ah, good to know.