2011 traction control light/ drivability issue

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Toeknuckle

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Hey all. 2011 Outdoorsman 4x4, 5.7. It started that occasionally the traction control light would pop on and then it wouldn't go into OD. Do a restart and good to go. Now its progressed to coming on every time and restarting does nothing with an occasional break of not coming on. No cruise control. And if I'm going over 50mph and take my foot off the pedal for 1 second, the throttle goes dead and i have to apply and hold the throttle for maybe 3 seconds before it comes back to life. Below 50mph its fine.
I'm showing C121C as well as a P0344, P0456, and a P0481 which I've had for a few years now.
Searched about the C121C and results were all over the place.
I'll order up a cam sensor but I'm thinking the main issue is caused by something else. Maybe?
Any advice would be appreciated.
 

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Let's narrow down what you should be looking at. You have an ABS/Traction Control light and the throttle issue. I would focus on those first as they are likely related. The C121C code is the reason why you are having those issues. That is flagging an issue in which the traction control system is limiting the torque or throttle input provided by the ECM. Basically when the traction control systems kick on part of that is limiting the amount of throttle or power going to the tires. The other part of traction control is activating the brakes on the spinning tire to slow it down and shift power to the other side wheel with traction. If the traction control was somehow activating that would give you the dead pedal. For the gear issue, it could limit overall power preventing the upshift or even be dragging a wheel which causes more resistance and thus not being able to pull a higher gear. Or again could just be limiting throttle input so it doesn't have enough power to pull the higher gear.
Point being.....focus the effort on the ABS/traction control systems and the C121C code.

For the other reported issues:
- If there is an issue with the ABS/traction control and the light comes on, that typically disables cruise control. There is likely no issue with the cruise control, just that it is being disabled because of the ABS/traction control issues. Once you fix the ABS and traction control the cruise will probably work fine again.
- P0344 is for an intermittent camshaft position signal. First, that is unlikely causing any of your main problems listed above. Based on that I wouldn't even worry about it yet until you have the other problems fixed. The camshaft position has absolutely zero to do with the ABS or traction control. The code also does not say the only possible cause is that the sensor itself is bad. From my experience at least half of the time it's a bad wiring, connector, etc.... I do not recommend randomly throwing a new sensor on it because of the code. Typical cheapo parts store sensors also regularly have issues or simply don't work quite right. I typically recommend original Mopar sensors.
- P0456 - typical evap emissions codes, like a loose gas cap.....has abosolutely zero to do with your issues. May not even be an active code
- P0481 - cooling fan 2 circuit. Again, unlikely to have anything to do with the main issues listed at the start of this post. Unless the engine was actually overheating it won't cause issues, and obviously has zero to do with ABS or traction control. Again may not even be an active code...just because the code is shown in the system it doesn't mean that issue is active. If something happens just long enough to set the code, but then goes away, the code remains stored in the system for a period of time.
 

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A code being present can prevent the cruise from engaging.
I would clean all the grounds, and give other harness connections an inspection for green crusties .

The age of the truck makes it ripe for weak electrical connections.

Has the battery been replaced in the last few years ?
A load test and freshened terminals can’t hurt .

Only use OEM sensors.
 
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If the traction control was somehow activating that would give you the dead pedal. For the gear issue, it could limit overall power preventing the upshift or even be dragging a wheel which causes more resistance and thus not being able to pull a higher gear. Or again could just be limiting throttle input so it doesn't have enough power to pull the higher gear.
Point being.....focus the effort on the ABS/traction control systems and the C121C code.
Thank you for that very detailed info. It doesn't feel like dragging brakes or ABS pumping. Just 3000rpm at 60mph. Would you suggest looking at ABS sensors?

It seems you have what could possibly be several PCM related codes. Before throwing parts, it wouldn't cost anything to pull the plugs on the PCM and check for corrosion in the plugs and on and around the pins.
I did see a video about the C121C and the PCM. Unplugged mine and it was very clean. Checked connectors and after plugging in it didn't change anything.
 
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A code being present can prevent the cruise from engaging.
I would clean all the grounds, and give other harness connections an inspection for green crusties .

The age of the truck makes it ripe for weak electrical connections.

Has the battery been replaced in the last few years ?
Even though it only has 120K the rust is eating it alive. I'll check the grounds. Battery was replaced last year.
 

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Thank you for that very detailed info. It doesn't feel like dragging brakes or ABS pumping. Just 3000rpm at 60mph. Would you suggest looking at ABS sensors?
Typically if there is an issue with an ABS wheel speed sensor or circuit it will throw a code specific to that (for example left front wheel speed sensor). A decent scan tool that reads live data will also show what the sensors are reading. I'm not talking about a fancy dealer or high level tool, but even basic scanners that can read live data. The specific code you are getting does not seem to correspond with an issue of the wheel speed sensors. But without a scan tool reading live data it's hard to diagnose.
 

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