2012 vs 2018

[DILLIGAF]

2012 is the worst year ever, And a POS 6 Speed to boot.

 

[Sherman Bird]

I had a 12 for 8 years and put over 100k on it. My neighbor bought it off of me and he is still driving it. It is one of the last good trucks I truly believe Dodge made. Maintain it and run good fluids in it and it wont give you one ounce of problems.

I wonder when I read a comment like "One of the last good" ones, referring to cars, trucks, washing machines....et al.
If 2012 was the last of the good ones, then why have Rams sold so well in the 12 years since?

There is a slice of truth in the statement, though. My parents acquired a WW2 era chest freezer in about 1965. It was a "Philco" brand. (A subsidiary of FORD). My maternal grandparents had bought it new, and passed it down. It kicked the bucket in about 1985ish.

But I wouldn't go so far as to exclaim that it is one of the last good ones. It wasn't grounded AT ALL. This meant that if you were barefooted and opened it, you got a shock. Ditto for the fridge! We could open the lid on the washing machine during it's cycles.... not possible today, because some folks are dangerous around machinery!

It's durability was good. I wonder how far "planned obsolescence" had morphed at that time.

In 1999, my now grown daughter was in a horrific car crash that, according to the cops, should have killed her. The car was a 1994 Cavalier. When I saw the car, the driver's and passenger compartment was still intact. That was a major factor in keeping her alive. There were no airbags in Cavaliers (GM's J car) until the next year. Her next car had dual airbags... and she never had to test them out, thank goodness! The rest of the accident car looked like it had gone through a shredder.

Some of what has made such drastic changes in products has been influenced by consumer demands and safety germane to avoidable hazards. And don't forget watchdogs like Nader!

Whether it is a TV (Zenith) with a "hot" chassis, an ungrounded fridge or freezer, baby cribs that maim or kill, or car crashes, hazards abound. We mere mortals do our level best at avoiding said hazards and trying to being aware of as many as possible, so we can spend more time on this planet, posting on forums and grousing about whatever ails us .

 

[Treburkulosis]

I wonder when I read a comment like "One of the last good" ones, referring to cars, trucks, washing machines....et al.
If 2012 was the last of the good ones, then why have Rams sold so well in the 12 years since?

There is a slice of truth in the statement, though. My parents acquired a WW2 era chest freezer in about 1965. It was a "Philco" brand. (A subsidiary of FORD). My maternal grandparents had bought it new, and passed it down. It kicked the bucket in about 1985ish.

But I wouldn't go so far as to exclaim that it is one of the last good ones. It wasn't grounded AT ALL. This meant that if you were barefooted and opened it, you got a shock. Ditto for the fridge! We could open the lid on the washing machine during it's cycles.... not possible today, because some folks are dangerous around machinery!

It's durability was good. I wonder how far "planned obsolescence" had morphed at that time.

In 1999, my now grown daughter was in a horrific car crash that, according to the cops, should have killed her. The car was a 1994 Cavalier. When I saw the car, the driver's and passenger compartment was still intact. That was a major factor in keeping her alive. There were no airbags in Cavaliers (GM's J car) until the next year. Her next car had dual airbags... and she never had to test them out, thank goodness! The rest of the accident car looked like it had gone through a shredder.

Some of what has made such drastic changes in products has been influenced by consumer demands and safety germane to avoidable hazards. And don't forget watchdogs like Nader!

Whether it is a TV (Zenith) with a "hot" chassis, an ungrounded fridge or freezer, baby cribs that maim or kill, or car crashes, hazards abound. We mere mortals do our level best at avoiding said hazards and trying to being aware of as many as possible, so we can spend more time on this planet, posting on forums and grousing about whatever ails us .

What I meant was one of the last good Hemi era 4th gen trucks. It sure seemed like you saw a lot more issues with 13+ trucks and not nearly as much with 09-12 trucks.

 

[Sherman Bird]

What I meant was one of the last good Hemi era 4th gen trucks. It sure seemed like you saw a lot more issues with 13+ trucks and not nearly as much with 09-12 trucks.

Nah! I was having some perspective fun! Peace!

 

[Jeepwalker]

I agree.... 2012 *is* the best yr!

But in this case, in a rusty environment, I think the '18 makes a lot of sense. Just based on what the OP has written. Unless the '12 is from FL or somewhere down S. ..But then later he posted the truck was a 2014(??)...or was that a fat-finger?? IDK

 

[MrFigs]

I have a '12.. towing.. I've had 16K behind it going down the highway with no issues, for a very short trip til I found out the loader messed up I had like 21K behind it.

I've dragged 15 pass 3/4 vans with all 4 wheels locked up up a small hill in the snow.. it's been a workhorse.

I have the 6spd 3.92 gears, this last trip 16.68mpg over 900 miles without cruise control, since mine isn't working. Speeds around 62mph in the mountains, and 70-80mph on the flats. The lower air damn is long gone, I have a headache rack that sticks out alittle sideways from the cab and a tow truck light bar up top, over the wall tool box, a pushbar, running 20" AT tires.

New ones have a ton more electronics... but since Feb I've replaced the TIPM, 4x4 shift motor, starter, clock spring, brake switch, and i think my BCM may be failing... sooo ya... happy happy joy joy


*edit.. just looked under my dash.. I don't have a BCM.. <Insert facepalm emoji here>

 

[Rodetec]

Is the older one a 2012? ..Or 2014? You said both..

2012. Sirry

 

[Rodetec]

So, I wound up buying the 2018. Only thing I did was installed air bags for towing the camper. Thanks for all the replies.

 

[DeckArtist]

Good choice!

 

[Docwagon1776]

So, I wound up buying the 2018. Only thing I did was installed air bags for towing the camper. Thanks for all the replies.

Booo, you suck and we hate you. - signed 2012 fans.



Just helped my son with his oil change on his (my former) 2012 Express. 105k miles now and the only issue its ever had was a coil pack got weak.

 

[Jeepwalker]

Either was a great choice. The 2018 is newer and hopefully you'll get many trouble-free miles out of it

 

[DILLIGAF]

That wasnt even comparable, Good choice on the 18 !