20IndyRam
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- EcoDiesel
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The photo of sticker doesn't give the tire 'rating' - only the size and PSI.
He'll probably never tell us. Trolls never give all the information.So your payload is 1,004 lbs, meaning you cannot load more than 1,004 lbs onto the truck above what it came with from the factory.
B&W turnover ball underbed hitch is 96 lbs.
Paragaon tonneau is 35 lbs.
Before you even add any passengers your usable payload is already down to 873 lbs.
Let's assume that it's just you and one other person with no extra cargo and that your combined weight is 350 lbs... your usable payload is 523 lbs.
Based on payload numbers the GVWR of your fifth wheel would need to be roughly 2,600 lbs to stay within payload. Not even an Escape 5.0 is that light.
But, assuming you don't care about payload, your RAWR is 4,100. Half of that is the truck. So if you take the cargo numbers above (B&W hitch, tonneau, passengers) you are starting with a usable rear axle weight of 1,619 lbs. That means to avoid exceeding the RAWR you would need a fifth wheel with a GVWR of 8k lbs. The Escape 5.0 would be about the only one that could pull that off.
What kind of 5th wheel do you have? I am convinced that you're trolling the board, because I cannot imagine someone being this ignorant of towing to attempt to put any kind of weight behind that truck.
Just to pipe in here, my volkswagen jetta has right at 1100 lbs of payload capacity. I thought that was hilarious. More than half of what my 3/4 ton diesel 30' long truck is rated for.
and it was a whopping 1070#
It's not the case with Ford with GM though. Their 3/4 ton diesel trucks have much higher payloads.They shouldn't even make 3/4 ton diesels. Or, more appropriately, people need to quit buying them.
A buddy of mine arrived camping once - truck pretty much like OP's and nearly identical payload #. 30' TT, canopy, two dogs, wife, kid, firewood and coolers in the bed of the truck, etc. He told us there was some icon on his dash of an arrow pointing at a truck bed that kept flashing and he didn't know what it meant He now drives an F350
Anyway, the subject of payload was going around and he went and checked his sticker (undoubtedly for the first time ever) and it was a whopping 1070#. Other buddy had a Subaru Forrester and got curious so he went to check - 1200#
With a camper you're 100% correct, as mentioned the load is static in campers so you can't really move it around to adjust pin weight. Sure you can play with where you load your gear in it, but for the vast majority of people that's not going to appreciably change the tongue/pin weight.Dang near every truck you'll run out of payload long before you hit towing capacity. It's probably ok to push your payload a little since I'm sure there's some leeway factored in for Bubba, but going grossly over is dangerous.
my son and I both have identical ram laramie 2500 dsl and tow identical 10,000# 5th wheels with no trouble. loaded up and ready to go, the truck squats less than 2". he did a 4,000 loop out west last summer with his.They shouldn't even make 3/4 ton diesels. Or, more appropriately, people need to quit buying them.
2500s have a niche where they fit. My 2500 is perfectly sized for my travel trailer. It's too heavy for a 1500 and not heavy enough for a 3500. My tongue weight hovers in the 1,500 lb range.They shouldn't even make 3/4 ton diesels. Or, more appropriately, people need to quit buying them.
My cargo cap was 3900. Probably more like 3500 now, since I put in t swing tool box, a tonneau cover, and a bunch of stuff behind the seat. But your diesel engine takes up almost 1000 pounds of your cargo cap all by itself. That's why I went gas.I remember first seeing the payload number in my truck after I got it delivered. Never even crossed my mind that the biggest 3/4 ton truck ram makes could possibly have only a 2k lb payload capacity.