37 nitto trail grapplers or 37 toyo open country

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quietpeen

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moved this to the exterior section

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Mud Grapplers...oh wait that wasn't a choice. :005:

I have had the Trail Grapplers and know many people still running them. They are great tires and can last a good amount of time for a mud tire. I know a lot of people run Toyos as well. I think they are going to be pretty similar in most aspects - just about which tire you think looks better.
 

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^^2nd this, Ive heard the wear is about the same, road noise, and all other aspects.. I just liked the Trail Grapplers better, liked the sidewall a bit more!
 

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They're pretty much the same tire. Same natural:synthetic rubber content, same manufacturer, almost the exact same tread pattern. I guess you should just pick which one "looks cooler."

Truth is, these are not a great tire. They handle awesome on dry rock and dry pavement, but are less than standard in all other categories. They don't clear mud at all (treads impacted,) they don't sipe water well, they don't handle snow and ice well. They also have a very high synthetic rubber content which means they are highly prone to chunking if you off road them. I ran these on my Jeep for a year, probably some of the worst money I spent on it.

If you don't off road much, they won't be bad. Great tread life, quiet, nice look, just keep in mind they're not great when it's wet. You'll spin a lot at stop lights and can be very prone to hydroplaning.

Edit: just realized I didn't give you any alternatives. Falken Wild Peaks are a great tire all around, as are the Goodyear MT/R K.
 
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Second that tho, hydroplaning is horrible with my 37x14.5r15s alot of spin from a stop in the rain but I never had a terrible time playing in the snow or even city driving it these ny winters but that's all based on the drivers ability and confidence level but I don't go off road rarely ever and I'm going on 4 years with these and still over 75% tread
 

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It's all about understanding the limitations of the tire and driving accordingly. In a nutshell, because of the high synthetic rubber/low natural rubber, the lugs of either of these tires don't flex much, even with the sipes cut in them. At cold temperatures the lugs are even stiffer, this leads to a tire that doesn't clear voids (spaces between lugs) well. The result is your tread becoming impacted...not ideal. Even at trail pressure (6 psi on bead lock wheels) when the tire can really flex and SHOULD clear, it doesn't.

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Here's a picture of the MT/R K tread pattern. Note the two center lug rings, one with wide voids, one with narrow voids. While this design isn't awesome for the rock crawling I do in my Jeep, they're ideal for a the type of off roading most guys do in full size trucks. They are also one of the best performing highway tires in the M/T class.
 
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