Blackstone - used oil analysis

[Travis8352]

Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 SP formula shears alot, in the mobil 1 flavor id choose ESP X4 0w-40. Theres also PUP 0w-40 which shears but has a better additive package than PUP 5w-30/20

 

[SD2020]

I have the iPhone 15 pro max, I down load my photo direct from the I-cloud to desk top and post them here with out editing them and they look better, I'm not sure what's going on unless its a photo setting in iPhone 16 that this site does not like... Example of one of my photos below:

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I have the iPhone 15 pro max, I down load my photo direct from the I-cloud to desk top and post them here with out editing them and they look better, I'm not sure what's going on unless its a photo setting in iPhone 16 that this site does not like... Example of one of my photos below:

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I think it’s my phone using compressed images instead of the ones in iCloud. On other forums the photos are much better, I will figure it out once I get some more time.

 

[ramffml]

Just got my latest report for Oct 4/25. Very happy with this one, the others were great as well but this is the best iron and copper per 1000 miles, really high TBN yet, stayed well within grade etc.

Blackstone flagged the aluminum but some of that is part of the virg|n oil and shows up in many HPL UOA's, like this one from bobs. So I'm not worried about that in the slightest since the other wear metals are all going down. BS said AL can come from piston wear due to heavy towing, which I also do somewhat (not "heavy", but quite a bit I'd say, more than many half tons see).

The very minimal fuel dilution from previous winter run disappeared too, kind of expected that, absolutely no remote start/idling in the summer and it sees much higher temps too in the summer (with my 180 in the winter it never gets past low 90s C).

I'm running HPL P+ right now for the winter as I had some left over from 2023 and wanted to use it up, but the plan is to continue running the cheapest PCMO 5w-30 year round.

Guess the ole girl deserves to stick around in the driveway for another year


**Units in KM'S** Except for the two iron/copper marked at 1k miles where I converted for easy comparison to other hemis.

Edit: confirmed by David Ward, AL is a non issue:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/hpl-super-car-sae-0w-20.398114/post-7318301

 

[Burla]

Thanks for sharing, great report there.

 

[ccsrt8]

Can you use Blackstone in Canada? Do we have to send it to the US and if so, is there a bunch of paperwork required?

 

[Wild one]

Can you use Blackstone in Canada? Do we have to send it to the US and if so, is there a bunch of paperwork required?

Finning / Caterpillar can do them,and they're actually better then Blackstone. Blackstone is bottom of the barrel,there's way better outfits then them.
There's a few Finning dealers in BC.

Google Search

 

[ramffml]

Can you use Blackstone in Canada? Do we have to send it to the US and if so, is there a bunch of paperwork required?

Canada Post wanted to me fill in some extra paper work for Zonos (tariffs etc) and I walked out and told them that was just stupid, I'm not doing their job for them.

It cost about $22 from where I live to send via UPS, it was there in like 2 to 3 days, included tracking. I dropped it off at the UPS Store and they did everything else. I don't know if I'll get billed extra yet on top of that, but honestly the cost doesn't bother me, I love nerding out on this kind of stuff.

I got my analysis back in about 8 business days after it was delivered. Shortest turnaround time I've had yet, used to be month and a half of waiting to hear back.

 

[ramffml]

Finning / Caterpillar can do them,and they're actually better then Blackstone. Blackstone is bottom of the barrel,there's way better outfits then them.
There's a few Finning dealers in BC.

Blackstone doesn't do fuel detection all that well, other than that they're fine for what we need. Hemi's don't really need to worry about fuel dilution.

 

[Wild one]

Blackstone doesn't do fuel detection all that well, other than that they're fine for what we need. Hemi's don't really need to worry about fuel dilution.

I'm less then 10 minutes away from Finning Calgary,and they do alot better job then Blackstone does. Not 1 trucking or big construction outfit uses Blackstone as they have a $h!t rep in those industries.Only on here is Blackstone used,you'll also notice Lake Speed never uses them either,there's way better outfits doing oil analysis then Blackstone


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Finning in Calgary offers engine oil analysis through its
S.O.S. Services program, which provides lab testing for engine oil, coolant, and fuel to detect potential wear and prevent costly downtime. This analysis helps manage equipment health, optimize maintenance, and extend the life of components and fluids. Customers can submit samples and access their results online.

 

[ramffml]

I'm less then 10 minutes away from Finning Calgary,and they do alot better job then Blackstone does. Not 1 trucking or big construction outfit uses Blackstone as they have a $h!t rep in those industries.Only on here is Blackstone used,you'll also notice Lake Speed never uses them either,there's way better outfits doing oil analysis then Blackstone

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Finning in Calgary offers engine oil analysis through its
S.O.S. Services program, which provides lab testing for engine oil, coolant, and fuel to detect potential wear and prevent costly downtime. This analysis helps manage equipment health, optimize maintenance, and extend the life of components and fluids. Customers can submit samples and access their results online.

Well if you're that close to a lab I'd use that too.

Lake Speed has his own analysis lab that he shills

 

[Wild one]

Well if you're that close to a lab I'd use that too.

Lake Speed has his own analysis lab that he shills

Google Finning,you probably have one not that far away from you either,

 

[Travis8352]

Well if you're that close to a lab I'd use that too.

Lake Speed has his own analysis lab that he shills

My opinion is blackstone is as good as it gets for analysing wear and additives but their viscosity and fuel measurements are suspect, especially the fuel measurement but you know that and like you said, for what we do here thats fine. I want to like lake speeds but hes pretty expensive and his additive counts always come in low. I also read that his kits get analyzed by someone else so hes kinda just a middle man who reads the analysis. HPLs kits are from wearcheck and they seem to be by far the best. Im going to try them

 

[ccsrt8]

Finning / Caterpillar can do them,and they're actually better then Blackstone. Blackstone is bottom of the barrel,there's way better outfits then them.
There's a few Finning dealers in BC.

Google Search

Thanks, I'll give them a call and see what they say. The nearest one is about 75 minutes away, so I can make that work at some point in the near future.

 

[BLUKTY2]

I am posting this UOA at the request from @HEMIMANN. Certainly a good idea since most of us here on this forum probably own another vehicle besides a RAM and there is a good chance that this other vehicle uses a GDI engine.

This UOA is from a 23 Lexus with the T24A-FTS engine. This is a dual injection turbo 4 banger used in several vehicles across the Toyota/Lexus lineup. The oil used was PUP 5W-30 and I had 4,326 on the oil and 15,311 total miles on the engine. The use of the vehicle during this run was mainly city driving and I have a heavy foot. Very few highway miles.

As the UOA shows, this engine is a moderate fuel diluter which brought the already thin PUP down below grade. I was a bit surprised to see this much dilution on a dual injection engine but my driving habits may have contributed to this. I have one more fill of PUP that I will use for a very short OCI and I will then move on to Mobil ESP 0W-30 or 5W-30. Leaning more toward using the 0W-30 but I have plenty of time to mull this over before making a firm decision.

I hope that this information is helpful to some on this forum.

 

[Burla]

That 0w30 is like visc 12 and you are running like visc 9 when vir-gin, so you have three point to toss away with fuel dilution. For time when you forget your exact interval, you have a lot of insurance 3 points of visc better. Yes that visc in theory is a little less stable, but 0w30 will be more stable then 0w40.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Come to think of it with all that fuel in the oil making lower viscosity, we won't know how much VII additive shears. Crap. GDI sucks.

 

[utley]

Here are mine

Hope my next UOA will be better.
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I did a blackstone oil analysis on my first oil change AFTER (or my 2nd oil change if you will) and had similar results with 20k on the odometer. I straight up use amsoil and a K&N filter in mine.
edit: dead thread resurrected. my bad...

 

[Curmudgeon]

I did a blackstone oil analysis on my first oil change AFTER (or my 2nd oil change if you will) and had similar results with 20k on the odometer. I straight up use amsoil and a K&N filter in mine.
edit: dead thread resurrected. my bad...

While this thread might not see daily updates, it is anything but dead.

 

[ccsrt8]

I'm currently running some Redline SI-1 and 91 octane before my next oil change. Would you do an oil analysis after running it, or will the results be skewed because of the SI-1?

I plan to use Redline 5w-30 and a Fram XG2 filter since the RP 20-820's are outrageously priced in Canada and the XG2 is readily available.

 

[Burla]

Good question don't know that one. I would wager however the wear numbers such as iron and copper and alum will be still accurate. There is a report somewhere that it can thicken viscosity. We don't have a lot of examples on this or thought put into it.