Cigar lighter - No power

[BGW656]

Hi there,

New to Rams. I bought a used 2021 3500 Longhorn last year. Haven’t used it much as I primarily use it for trailering boats around and occasional dump runs.

After getting hit in my wife’s car last week I’ve decided to put dash camera in all our vehicles. I attached the camera to the windshield and plugged the camera into the cigar light which is in the tray on the dash…….and nothing. I didn’t know if the camera was defective or the the cigar lighter wasn’t working. I plugged an adapter into the cigar lighter and still nothing.

Then manual says it should work with ACC or ignition on. It says fuse slot 93F is for the lighter. I popped the hood, find the fuse slot and it’s empty. I pull another 20 amp fuse to see if it fixes the problem and it doesn’t. In fact the fuse just falls into the slot. There is obviously no wiring/clip to hold a fuse in place. It really is just an empty plastic slot.

Has anyone else experienced this? Why the heck would a cigar lighter not be factory installed and working? Particularly on the high end model. I know I can run wires to the auxiliary switches but why should I have to when the lighter is right there.

Thanks

 

[tron67j]

 

[BGW656]

Thanks Tron67J. I checked that one as well. No luck.

 

[RamDiver]

Thanks Tron67J. I checked that one as well. No luck.

No luck as in there's no fuse or no guts to hold a fuse?

I have 2 power outlets or cigar lighters on my truck.

One is in the bottom of the console cubby, to the right side and below the phone holder.
The second is on the backside of the console for backseat coverage.

Are there 2 in your truck? If not, this would explain why there isn't a fuse receptacle for F93.

Back to F90/F91. It's a dual-position receptacle to allow the user to select constant or ignition- switched power.

Fuse Box Diagram Ram 2500 3500 (2019 - 2026) relay with assignment and locations

Fuse boxes and relays Dodge Ram 2500 3500 2019 - 2026 locations, diagrams, photographs, description of the destination. Cigarette lighter fuse

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[Rado]

On my 2015 it show the same F93 20a fuse for the cigar lighter on the dash as the 2021 !

OP did the socket ever work ?
Maybe try a 20a fuse in the F93 slot as maybe the previous owner need that fuse for something else to work ?

 

[ibike]

My Ram is a 1500 and the fuse you’re looking for on mine is under the steering column. Is yours not there? I pulled ignition on power for my cb from there.

 

[BGW656]

No luck as in there's no fuse or no guts to hold a fuse?

I have 2 power outlets or cigar lighters on my truck.

One is in the bottom of the console cubby, to the right side and below the phone holder.
The second is on the backside of the console for backseat coverage.

Are there 2 in your truck? If not, this would explain why there isn't a fuse receptacle for F93.

Back to F90/F91. It's a dual-position receptacle to allow the user to select constant or ignition- switched power.

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Fuse Box Diagram Ram 2500 3500 (2019 - 2026) relay with assignment and locations

Fuse boxes and relays Dodge Ram 2500 3500 2019 - 2026 locations, diagrams, photographs, description of the destination. Cigarette lighter fuse

fuseandrelay.com

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Thanks Ramdiver. I only have the one located on the tray of the dash. That would explain 93 not having any guts. There is a fuse in the 90/91 slot. I’ve tried it in both and tried a new fuse in both. No luck.

 

[RamDiver]

On my 2015 it show the same F93 20a fuse for the cigar lighter on the dash as the 2021 !

OP did the socket ever work ?
Maybe try a 20a fuse in the F93 slot as maybe the previous owner need that fuse for something else to work ?

It says fuse slot 93F is for the lighter. I popped the hood, find the fuse slot and it’s empty. I pull another 20 amp fuse to see if it fixes the problem and it doesn’t.

In fact the fuse just falls into the slot. There is obviously no wiring/clip to hold a fuse in place. It really is just an empty plastic slot.
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[BGW656]

My Ram is a 1500 and the fuse you’re looking for on mine is under the steering column. Is yours not there? I pulled ignition on power for my cb from there.

Thanks but mine is in the engine bay.

 

[BGW656]

Thanks for the suggestion. I’m not sure if it ever worked worked. I bought it used as a low mileage lease return from the dealer.

I hadn’t needed to use the cigar lighter until now. 90/91 has a fuse in it and I’ve tested the fuse and put it in both always on and switched positions. 93 has no guts in it so it really is just a blank space.

At this point I’m going to have the dealer look at it the next time I take it in.

 

[Rado]

I hadn’t needed to use the cigar lighter until now. 90/91 has a fuse in it and I’ve tested the fuse and put it in both always on and switched positions. 93 has no guts in it so it really is just a blank space.

At this point I’m going to have the dealer look at it the next time I take it in.

Well that is a bummer ! Many time they do not list what the fuse powers :O PLEASE UPDATE us what you find out !
Thanks

 

[ibike]

Thanks but mine is in the engine bay.

You’ve got one more fuse block right here and it has the fuse your looking for behind this panel. It’s a two position fuse. One for on all the time. One for when you start the truck. Two screws along the bottom of the knee panel and tug a bit till the clips release. Do what you want, but don’t look just pay the stealership to replace the blown fuse.

 

[ibike]

Fuse 50 a/b

 

[RamDiver]

I hadn’t needed to use the cigar lighter until now. 90/91 has a fuse in it and I’ve tested the fuse and put it in both always on and switched positions. 93 has no guts in it so it really is just a blank space.

At this point I’m going to have the dealer look at it the next time I take it in.

Did you test the fuse with an ohmmeter?
Even with my reading specs, they're pretty difficult to verify visually.

Another possibility is that the connector fell off the back side of the power outlet.
I would poke around under the dash in proximity to the outlet to see if the connector is seated properly.
I would hate to ask a dealer to go hunting to find something.
That's just an invitation for a crazy bill.

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[RamDiver]

You’ve got one more fuse block right here and it has the fuse your looking for behind this panel. It’s a two position fuse. One for on all the time. One for when you start the truck. Two screws along the bottom of the knee panel and tug a bit till the clips release. Do what you want, but don’t look just pay the stealership to replace the blown fuse.
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Is this information with reference to a 5th-gen 3500?

Fuse 50 a/b
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There isn't a link for a source reference.

The following site indicates the fuse in question for 2019-2026 5th-gen 2500/3500 is under the hood. Is this site wrong?

Fuse Box Diagram Ram 2500 3500 (2019 - 2026) relay with assignment and locations

Fuse boxes and relays Dodge Ram 2500 3500 2019 - 2026 locations, diagrams, photographs, description of the destination. Cigarette lighter fuse

fuseandrelay.com

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[ibike]

There are so many configurations of fuse panel locations. Two different ones on the interior. One on the side of the dash and one under the column. Yes my reference is for a 1500. Can there be that much difference between the rams in regards to electrical?

Does it hurt to look if under the hood fuse doesn’t give good indication of being bad?

Typical mopar (stelantus) wiring in my experience is the wiring harnesses are all the same except for pigtails they add for different levels of upgrades.