Come on guys... Let's here the Q's and A's...

[dripley]

how much weight and what gear do you have to use to accomplish that. I have not had to put mine to the test yet and would like to have a yard stick to measure this banks and compare it to your jacobs. i am not sure when i will get to doit but i will get my self weighed and see how mine works. i has been working fine pulling my trailer in the foot hills here, but i have not had on any long steep grades yet.

 

[joetama]

The extra fuel in a diesel, which generates the smoke, can also keep the EGTs down. Same theory as rich and lean work a gas.

Smoke can also happen in the delay caused by the spooling of the turbo.

 

[Mopar1973Man]

Lets keep it going guys... More Q's and A's...

 

[ramhunter9]

Winter additive like 911 .... what is your thoughts

 

[Mopar1973Man]

Winter additive like 911 .... what is your thoughts

Well as for fuel additives I'm not a big fan of any of them. But as for gelling issue you need something for those really cold days. But there is a few problems.

1. Most all anti-gel products start out with xylene as a base.


2. With any cetane booster and anti-gel produces you going to loose both lubricity of the fuel and also BTU content and get reduced MPG's.

So with that being said I would consider carry a bottle a PowerService 911 but I would not use a product in every tank. I'd only add it if the fuel was actually gelling up and fuel pressure is falling way off. It normal to see lower fuel pressures during the winter time but big falls in pressure is telling you your filter is plugging with clouded fuel.

Now here is a theory I've been playing with but I've got no actual proof or testing done. When I've been using is snowmobile 2 cycle oil in the dead of winter. Out here in Idaho most all snowmobile 2 cycle oil has a pour point to -50*F. So if you adding -50*F pour point 2 cycle oil to -20*F pour point diesel fuel the 2cycle oil should reduce the pour point of the diesel fuel even lower. How much I'm not sure. Kind of like saying water(diesel fuel) freezes at 32*F but with a bit of saltwater (2 cycle oil) added to the water (diesel fuel) the freeze point should be reduced. How much it all depends on the mixture of the saltwater (2 cycle oil).

 

[dripley]

I've got a 7% grade out of McCall, ID I got to travel quite a bit I've been because I can travel the enite 4-5 miles of grade and never touch my brakes. People can't understand that... Learn to drive I gotta say...

how much weight and what gear are you using to accomplixh this?

 

[Mopar1973Man]

how much weight and what gear are you using to accomplixh this?

Since Goose Creek grade is a 7% grade with tight 25 MPH corners you end up in 3rd gear (NV4500) and climbing at about 25-35 MPH the whole way. On open highway I've pulled over 6% grade in 5th gear at 60 MPH. Just depends on the highway and grade.

Last scale of both truck and trailer is 16,080# GCW.

 

[dripley]

i can pull 6% in 5th but not sixth aobut 50mph. thats at approx. 21k. i was curios what gear you have to use to come down that same hill and not touch the brakes.

 

[Mopar1973Man]

Trucker's rule of gears... "The same gear you go up the mountain will be the same gear you go down the mountain."

So if I'm in 3rd gear to go up I'll be in 3rd gear going back down.

 

[dripley]

i wil give that a try. but idont think 5th is gonna hold me down a 6% grade. i am hoping 4th will do the job though. we will see.

 

[ramhunter9]

Dam now I need to try this

 

[Mopar1973Man]

I'm sure there is other Q's out there guysand gals... Come on ask away...

 

[Bluesmoke91]

im bringing this back....

Where should a healthy stock Cummins be when it comes to fuel pressure at idle and WOT...and would someone explain what makes the fuel pressure raise and drop the way it does? be prepared for lots and lots of questions from me

 

[Mad Cow]

Why do men have nipples? Sorry off topic?? Have a great day all.

 

[infernoredram]

Why do diesels have more power potential than gassers??
Example, a programmer, exhaust, and intake will do 10x more on a diesel than gas.

 

[ramhunter9]

im bringing this back....

Where should a healthy stock Cummins be when it comes to fuel pressure at idle and WOT...and would someone explain what makes the fuel pressure raise and drop the way it does? be prepared for lots and lots of questions from me

This will vary from person to person . But one thing for sure on the VP44 make sure it never drops lower than 10PSI or you will be replacing a 3k VP44 soon .

I run 18PSI idle 16WOT , now that I have all my fuel system upgraded .

 

[Mopar1973Man]

Why do diesels have more power potential than gassers??
Example, a programmer, exhaust, and intake will do 10x more on a diesel than gas.

Actually the programmer (adding fuel) makes the biggest difference... Exhuast, intake, etc. are just supporting addons and not required till after 400-450 HP. Hence I'm still running 3" stock exhaust, stock manifold / intake, etc. BUt I'm running larger injectors (+40 HP) and a enhancement box (Edge Comp +120 HP).

Well it rather a long story but to give the quick version. The fact is gasoline engine must maintain a 14:1 air/fuel mixture to stay happy. Where diesel can go from ZERO fuel to ungodly amounts of fuel. Now looking at gasoline it would ruin a gasoline engine from the heavy aomunts of fuel on the cylinder walls. But looking at a diesel the fuel is sprayed directly in the bowl of the piston and doesn't make contact with the cylinders walls. Then since most diesels are turbo charged we can make of the difference of the fuel with more air. Since a turbo charger is like doubling or tripling cubic displacement when end up with more power. Then on top of that diesel fuel has 10,000 to 15,000 more BTU's than gasoline burns slower than gasoline so provides more torque and work force than POP of a gasoline engine.

(More needed?)

 

[Bluesmoke91]

This will vary from person to person . But one thing for sure on the VP44 make sure it never drops lower than 10PSI or you will be replacing a 3k VP44 soon .

I run 18PSI idle 16WOT , now that I have all my fuel system upgraded .

Thanks Dave.
Also, up to what year was the vp44 fuel pump used? 2002 I believe?

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[ramhunter9]

1994 - 1998 P pump

1998.5 - 2002 VP44

2003 - 2007 CP3

6.7 I have no clue but I think the CP3 will work with new feed lines and fittings and little tweak to the HP line to rail . But I am not sure .

 

[Dooner]

Well as for fuel additives I'm not a big fan of any of them. But as for gelling issue you need something for those really cold days. But there is a few problems.

1. Most all anti-gel products start out with xylene as a base.


2. With any cetane booster and anti-gel produces you going to loose both lubricity of the fuel and also BTU content and get reduced MPG's.

So with that being said I would consider carry a bottle a PowerService 911 but I would not use a product in every tank. I'd only add it if the fuel was actually gelling up and fuel pressure is falling way off. It normal to see lower fuel pressures during the winter time but big falls in pressure is telling you your filter is plugging with clouded fuel.

Now here is a theory I've been playing with but I've got no actual proof or testing done. When I've been using is snowmobile 2 cycle oil in the dead of winter. Out here in Idaho most all snowmobile 2 cycle oil has a pour point to -50*F. So if you adding -50*F pour point 2 cycle oil to -20*F pour point diesel fuel the 2cycle oil should reduce the pour point of the diesel fuel even lower. How much I'm not sure. Kind of like saying water(diesel fuel) freezes at 32*F but with a bit of saltwater (2 cycle oil) added to the water (diesel fuel) the freeze point should be reduced. How much it all depends on the mixture of the saltwater (2 cycle oil).

Now I want to know, where the hell am I gonna put water, saltwater, and 2 cycle oil in my truck?? And is this going to produce some nasty tasting saltwater taffy?? And do you have to smoke it since it is in a deisel??