Exhaust manifold stud nightmare

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So here’s my dilemma… I took my stock exhaust manifolds off and passenger side back bottom bolt was broke off into the cylinder head. To make a long story short, I attempted to drill out and got two easy out stuck in there… The hole is a mess, and the stud is still in there with the broken, easy outs… I attempted to drill one more hole and then I got an antifreeze leak. So if I get this hole machine out Can I use an oversize threaded insert? And if so once it’s all put back together, will it stop the leak?
Still thinking of drilling.
I have a template.
wondering if those who drill
are using left hand drill bits ?
hoping LH drill bits back the broken stud out ?
 

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Still thinking of drilling.
I have a template.
wondering if those who drill
are using left hand drill bits ?
hoping LH drill bits back the broken stud out ?
You can forget about using the fixture if you have broken EZ-outs still in the hole. Those are heat-treated to 62-65 Rockwell C(very Hard). The only thing that will even touch them is carbide, and thats a road you don't want to go down. I used the Lisle drill fixture and it worked great, but I'm a Machinist by trade and have 45 years experience dealing with scenarios like this. A welder works great, if you have one or have access to one. I don't. The drills that came with the fixture worked fine, but I did pick up a couple of left hand drills and it did break one of the studs loose. The rest, I just drilled them tapped in the EZ-out and and they came out. The worst one to drill for me was the left front stud. Had to use my 90 degree air drill for that one. If you try drilling over size for an insert, you'll probably make it worse since the hole is already off center. Are you skilled enough to drill and tap for the inserts? Also, you'll have to use a sealer on the threads and those heads get pretty hot. Not sure if that would stay sealed over time. Agree with many of the other members that you better look at a replacement head.
 

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Working around machine shops and automotive, I've never seen an Eze-out removed successfully by drilling.

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I'm not the OP ....thanks for the reply that the lt handed bits did work.
You can forget about using the fixture if you have broken EZ-outs still in the hole. Those are heat-treated to 62-65 Rockwell C(very Hard). The only thing that will even touch them is carbide, and thats a road you don't want to go down. I used the Lisle drill fixture and it worked great, but I'm a Machinist by trade and have 45 years experience dealing with scenarios like this. A welder works great, if you have one or have access to one. I don't. The drills that came with the fixture worked fine, but I did pick up a couple of left hand drills and it did break one of the studs loose. The rest, I just drilled them tapped in the EZ-out and and they came out. The worst one to drill for me was the left front stud. Had to use my 90 degree air drill for that one. If you try drilling over size for an insert, you'll probably make it worse since the hole is already off center. Are you skilled enough to drill and tap for the inserts? Also, you'll have to use a sealer on the threads and those heads get pretty hot. Not sure if that would stay sealed over time. Agree with many of the other members that you better look at a replacement head.
 

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If one head comes off, they both get replaced with aftermarkets and shes getting a hotter cam
The OP's in Canada,unless you rob banks for a living doing aftermarket heads and a cam are out for alot of guys due to the cost factor.You basically double the US cost to get Canadian pricing
 

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This is why i pay a good shop to do it.. they have the knowledge and tooling to do it properly.. Last time cost me under $500 including a new manifold
Why would you buy a new manifold??? The best fix is to get your manifolds machined at a competent machine shop. That will bring an end to your broken exhaust stud problem. The older more used manifols, the better! The manifolds on the vehicle when it was new we refer to as "green" cast. It hasn't gone through the stress relieve process. That involves heating and cooling. A new, out of the box manifold will do the same warpage trick of your old one, get the old ones machined and solve your problem rather than just pushing it down the road.
 

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Why would you buy a new manifold??? The best fix is to get your manifolds machined at a competent machine shop. That will bring an end to your broken exhaust stud problem. The older more used manifols, the better! The manifolds on the vehicle when it was new we refer to as "green" cast. It hasn't gone through the stress relieve process. That involves heating and cooling. A new, out of the box manifold will do the same warpage trick of your old one, get the old ones machined and solve your problem rather than just pushing it down the road.
I just put shorty's on and call it a day. If the stock manifolds aren't warping they're cracking, and a machined one is going to be more likely to crack.
 

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I just put shorty's on and call it a day. If the stock manifolds aren't warping they're cracking, and a machined one is going to be more likely to crack.
You're shorties are way more likely to crack then a machined seasoned cast iron manifold is. If you get a set of shorties that don't crack a weld with-in a year odds are you're hardly ever driving the truck ;)
 

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I just put shorty's on and call it a day. If the stock manifolds aren't warping they're cracking, and a machined one is going to be more likely to crack.
I respectfully disagree, I did mine about 3 or 4 years ago and no problem since, No cracks, no broken bolts and best of all, no warpage. I followed the proper torque values and sequence with the exception that I stay a bit lower on the torque on the rear bolt on both sides.
 

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