Full Throttle Suspension (FTS) Lift Kit?

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I have a BDS Fox coilover lift set at 7.5" "going up another half inch when I get new 37's." RCX 1.25" body lift ,and Zone uca's. I'd rather go the route I went because my cv's are pretty much streight accross.

Your cv's look steep to me. I would be very careful. JS...


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I just went with what I thought was a true size lift instead of stretching. But apparently that isn't the case from what I'm reading.
 

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I have a BDS Fox coilover lift set at 7.5" "going up another half inch when I get new 37's." RCX 1.25" body lift ,and Zone uca's. I'd rather go the route I went because my cv's are pretty much streight accross.

Your cv's look steep to me. I would be very careful. JS...


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Can you post pictures of your cvs?
 

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I see what you are saying but it also looks like he has rancho quicklifts in the front. Either way I plan on some Kore high angle cv shafts if I have any problems like you've already mentioned. Who knows I still may end up with a 6 inch and just keep my Bilsteins at 2.8 but I love the look of this lift.

The only reason I have the ranchos up front is because they were in there before I lifted and they were able to utilize them until I upgrade my shocks.
 

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That's not horrible imo , my truck with just a level (bils @ +2.8 ) is about the same , but I do think that angle is pretty much MAX to have none or minor vibrations in 4wd .

Truck looks awesome by the way .
 

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That's not horrible imo , my truck with just a level (bils @ +2.8 ) is about the same , but I do think that angle is pretty much MAX to have none or minor vibrations in 4wd .

Truck looks awesome by the way .

Thank you so much.
 

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I have the Full 9 inch Wicked Customs Suspension Lift. I absolutely love it. I am running 22x11 on Toyo 37s without rubbing.

My fender measurements front and back are 48 inches exactly without a 3 inch body lift.

Best lift I have ever had on any truck I have owned.

Could you take some pics of how they have the rear suspension set up?? I'm curious how they did it.
 

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You are welcome to look into Wicked Customs. But my clearance compared to an 8 inch FTS with a 3 inch body is completely different. I also researched them from this thread before I bought after seeing what you picked apart on the FTS lift. They swear by there entire company that it is a true size lift.

I dont install or build lifts, so I do not know everything. But I know my clearances are different than other suspension lifts. I have more clearance than most suspension and body lifts put together. Again though, I am by no means an expert. So you def now have me questioning.

Thanks again for the info.

The main parts to be measuring to find the "true" height of the lift is the front cross member drop brackets, differential drop brackets, and steering knuckles. Essentially the center to center of the bolt holes on the cross member drop brackets should be 9" to call it a true 9" lift. That in conjunction with the other components will have the suspension (A-arm and CV shaft) angles very close to stock. Companies like 3rdCoastSuspension and BNC offroad that build all their custom lifts from scratch will verify this.
Obviously I'm not under your truck with a tape measure to check this out but what I see by the pictures it looks to me like your cross member and diff drop is not a full 9". Now that's not the worst thing in the world, they don't have to be to get 9" of suspension lift. It just isn't really a "true" 9" lift then; it's more like a 6" stretched or whatever the dimension may be.

You won't have a problem with the A-arms being at the angle they're at other than it gives you a slightly rougher ride. The closer the A-arms are to horizontal the better the ride. But the CV shafts at that angle can be a problem as I've seen guys snap them like that. Kore high angle CV's would take care of that problem for you and then you really shouldn't have any issues at all.

I see what you are saying but it also looks like he has rancho quicklifts in the front. Either way I plan on some Kore high angle cv shafts if I have any problems like you've already mentioned. Who knows I still may end up with a 6 inch and just keep my Bilsteins at 2.8 but I love the look of this lift.

Looking at the pictures I would argue that some of the main components wouldn't be any different dimension wise than a Zone or BDS 6" lift. The cross member drops look to only be about 6" too me (eye-balling it) which wouldn't be much more than a Zone or BDS. So don't take this is a true 9" lift cause I simply don't think it is that. It is still a very good quality lift from what I'm seeing; quite possibly one of the best I've seen on a 1500.
 
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I have the Full 9 inch Wicked Customs Suspension Lift. I absolutely love it. I am running 22x11 on Toyo 37s without rubbing.

My fender measurements front and back are 48 inches exactly without a 3 inch body lift.

Best lift I have ever had on any truck I have owned.

nickaliRAM would you mind providing a couple or measurements? Center bolt to center bolt on front cross member drop brackets and differential drop brackets.

Awesome truck brother. Wished I would have known about this lift before I bought mine. I follow Wicked Customs on FB and their lifts are pretty sweet. I did contact them a couple of weeks ago regarding their differential drop brackets but they did not want to give me any measurement information and told me that their brackets would not fit my FTS lift bracketry. I'm still not convinced though. I'm not a suspension expert but I'm thinking they should work just fine.
 

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I never saw this get updated... anyways reading back on it.

1) that truck looks great.

2) them CV angles though, the diff cant be dropped more than 7 inches max. So I have to agree with Brandon and everyone else who may have said the same thing. It looks like a stretched 6 inch kit which is disappointing.

Now, I have never seen any of their trucks in person, but on the phone and interwebs they claim to build custom length brackets. But ive always wondered if that's true. The reason I question it, for every inch the spindle geometry would change. So you cant just use the same spindle and make it longer or shorter. Theres a little more to it, so that means they would truly need to build a "custom" lift each time, or at least at each unique lift size, in order to really achieve this. Its not out of the question, but my gut tells me they aren't doing that. And now I see these photos, and well....

If the customer shows up and orders a 9 inch custom lift, he should get 9 inches of lift with "close to OEM angles". What he shouldn't get is an off the shelf kit (your shelf, BDS's shelf, santa's shelf, whoever) that you tweak/stretch to make it 9 inches.

I feel bad because I feel like I'm ******** on you, and that's not my intent. I also agree with Brandon that its one of the best looking lifts and trucks ive seen, but I don't think you got a "true custom 9 inch lift". Or let me rephrase that, you did not get the true 9 inch lift that we were expecting to see.
 

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I did contact them a couple of weeks ago regarding their differential drop brackets but they did not want to give me any measurement information and told me that their brackets would not fit my FTS lift bracketry. I'm still not convinced though. I'm not a suspension expert but I'm thinking they should work just fine.

so the problem is, kind of what I was just saying above, not that it "wont work" but as the drop bracket changes, the spindle needs to change with it. So if your bracket is 6" and the spindle is designed to work with that, you change the bracket to 8 or 10 inches, now what about the spindle? Well it might still work, but your balljoint is not going to be where it should be.

Catastrophic problem? ehh, maybe not depending on the variables but no one is going to endorse that from a business stand point.

if you notice, some of the companies sell aftermarket UCA that 'allow for better angles'. Same issue, other direction. Instead of changing the spindle, change the balljoint location and try to correct for some of that change. that's kind of why you see it advertised as something like stage 1 4 inch lift (basic kit, no preload spacers), stage 2 6 inch kit w/ preload spacer and UCA. Instead of making two separate lifts, stretching the 4 to 6 and readjusting the balljoint. The cheaper, less correct way to do this.

The thing about Independent suspensions, when one thing changes, everything else needs to change in relation to it. With a solid axle setup, the same thing is true but its MUCH less sensitive to change.

Using the 2500HD as an example, theres a reason why some kits are 2500 dolalrs and some are 4-5k dollars. While cognito and CST do charge for their name, most of that excess cost is based on the more extensive development required to make a 'better lift'.
 

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