Hummer OEM 35", 37" capable vs PW @ 33".

[Grand Mesa]

https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev

• "Standard 18-inch wheels with 35-inch-OD Goodyear Wrangler Territory MT tires that offer exceptional strength and flexibility to optimize maneuverability with the HUMMER EV’s unprecedented off-road capability. Additionally, the vehicle is engineered to accommodate 37-inch tires."

I can't understand as to why the Power Wagon still doesn't come stock with 35" tires.

 

[retired]

My guess is they would feel the need to have to regear and they probably have some kind of long term contract with AAM or something like that. I agree tho 33's look goofy on such a tall rig. They should also go to 18" wheels as the 17" barely clear the brake calipers.

 

[Gamedog]

Yeah, can't wait to get the stock Duratracs worn down to a level where I don't feel guilty for swapping them out for 35's. They look puny as hell for our PW's.

 

[olyelr]

Yeah, can't wait to get the stock Duratracs worn down to a level where I don't feel guilty for swapping them out for 35's. They look puny as hell for our PW's.

Before you wear em down, sell em for money to put towards the new rubber. Thats the way I always do it...sell my few year old tires that are in great shape for half the price of new (give or take) and put it towards a brand new set. Then, you are always in a set of new to next-to-new tires.

 

[Gamedog]

Before you wear em down, sell em for money to put towards the new rubber. Thats the way I always do it...sell my few year old tires that are in great shape for half the price of new (give or take) and put it towards a brand new set. Then, you are always in a set of new to next-to-new tires.

I've got 27K miles on the OEM Duratracs... What's an honest selling price? I'd say just over halfway worn down.

 

[olyelr]

I sold them off my ‘16 with 23k for $800. I think...**** my memory is bad. Maybe it was less.

 

[Overlander]

Does Discount give a credit for takeoffs? I've heard both ways.

 

[olyelr]

I've got 27K miles on the OEM Duratracs... What's an honest selling price? I'd say just over halfway worn down.

I sold them off my ‘16 with 23k for $800. I think...**** my memory is bad. Maybe it was less.

I take that back. They are only $1000 new. Musta been more like $400 by the time I was done with all the craigslist ********.

 

[Trailmaker]

I've got 27K miles on the OEM Duratracs... What's an honest selling price? I'd say just over halfway worn down.

Sold mine with 26k for $200. FB has 2-3 sets selling for 240-280

 

[MoPowered]

So what, the new EV hummer comes with 35’s, and will fit 37’s, the new Bronco with the Sasquatch Package comes with 35’s and will run 37’s. the Wrangler Rubicon comes with 33’s and will run 35’s and 37’s.Now with that being said look at the prices they all cost.
Hummer starting at 70k, the new Bronco with the added package to run them 35’s and probably some modding for 37’s is gonna break the wallet at about 65-70k before dealer mark-up. The Rubicon already is in the same price range. The Power Wagon for between 57k -65k, a full size truck with a Factory Locker’s, sway bar disco’s, Warn winch and anywhere from 4:56’s to 4:10’s stock. Even with 37’s on my 12 with 4:56’s I’m still close to a 4:10 gear ratio. So it ain’t nothing about the AAM axle’s and warranties, it’s about making a Truck that “anyone can own” even though it’s a one off. Tires don’t make the Truck and GM and Ford are trying hard to catch up to Jeep and Ram. How many Raptor’s do you see? How many Hummer’s, and don’t bother telling me how the stopped making them I know that because after the mainstreamed them the were 10,000lbs pounds of crap. Again I say, “So what.”

 

[BigLazer4u]

LoL. I would like to watch that hummer EV follow my power wagon.. 35’s or not, there is not a GMC product that will follow my power wagon off-road. STOCK VS STOCK... I’ll take the power wagon with 33’s all day and walk the dog on that hummer EV.

 

[crazy jerry]

GM and Ford are trying hard to catch up to Jeep and Ram. ”

ford had zero intention of competing neck to neck with pw. all they wanted to do was capture a small slice of the pie. pw sales are souring with these new models and ford knows it. the green one i posted last week i think was gone 2days later and ive seen a bunch of other new ones driving around. not sure if ford will get that slice or not, as alot of people as seeing the tremor as just a over priced gimmick. but theres still plenty of paying customers that wont know theyre just buying a standard truck with a couple added doodads and draining theier wallet of 5k or whatever that package cost.

 

[MoPowered]

@crazy jerry, I’ve never understood what drives some people to hop on bandwagon’s. I’m the type that prefers proven methods and trial and error chalked up to experience and gained knowledge. GM, Ford, Toyota, Nissan etc... are doing this why won’t Ram yada, yada, yada, If you want another Truck other than Ram go buy it. No one will care or hate you for it, it’s your money and your choice. But for f#cks sake quit thinking something is better because everyone is talking about it. They can keep their independent front suspended Heavy Duty’s, I’ll never own one. I think Ram should actually go back to a straight axle 1500 as they held onto for year’s until they caved under pressure and went IFS. I won’t win any friends here saying that but I say what I mean.
I’m a 55 year old that enjoys the vehicle’s he owns because I buy them for what I want them for not because of a commercial or because everyone is talking about it. I’m an avid weight trainer, been doing it over 40 years and there is always something new in the gym, on line or in books and I can tell you that easiest way to stay in shape and stay healthy is to just exercise, no gimmicks, no special routine’s and no damned Guru’s.

 

[Travelin Ram]

Perhaps FCA will up the game and move to 35’s soon under competitive pressure. I consider Ford’s Tremor package more of a direct competitor than SUV’s.

I have zero interest in EV and therefore the Hummer will not be on my radar.

That said, it’s blind brand loyalty to believe GM can’t or won’t build a capable trail rig. As a former owner of both the H3 and ZR2 I can say that from experience.

 

[crazy jerry]

i feel ram is the only hd truck worth buying. gm has no offroad qaulities that i can see. ford has to much front end problems that cant be easily or cheaply corrected. plus the coil rear end just kicks ass if you ask me

 

[MoPowered]

I’m not completely sold on the safety aspects of EV, they still emit low level magnetic electrical waves which isn’t good for you. Before I retired I had worked in area with electrical control boxes and x-rays and had to wear a badge that collected data on EMF/rads exposure. So they can keep EV. Some of the biggest Cancer cluster’s are known to be from area’s that have the transmission tower power line’s in the area.

 

[Grand Mesa]

Both of these articles were written just a couple of days ago.

The 1st article states that a GM Hummer EV doesn't actually exist.

The 2nd article states that the first year of its production is already sold out.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/37226/gm-hasnt-actually-made-a-complete-working-hummer-ev-yet

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gm-unveils-its-gmc-hummer-ev-the-first-fully-electric-pickup/

I'll stick with my real Ram Power Wagon 4x4 versus an imaginary concept drawing.

 

[Overlander]

I’m not completely sold on the safety aspects of EV, they still emit low level magnetic electrical waves which isn’t good for you. Before I retired I had worked in area with electrical control boxes and x-rays and had to wear a badge that collected data on EMF/rads exposure. So they can keep EV. Some of the biggest Cancer cluster’s are known to be from area’s that have the transmission tower power line’s in the area.

There's wisdom in this. EV's are being pushed because of political reason, not because of economics. As with every 'gain' there will be unintended consequence. People who tend to vote 'green' feel better because of the lack of combustion. But there is no real accounting of the collateral damage... strip mining of lithium, remote pollution from electrical plants, recycling path for used batteries at EoL, etc. Not to mention the unknown hazards of humans being in a highly electrified vehicle (radiation, post-crash fires, etc.)

The best selling non-Tesla EV was the Leaf and it sold 30K units in its peak year (2018). The reality of what the market is ready for an what those in politics would lead you to believe are two very different things.

 

[MoPowered]

There's wisdom in this. EV's are being pushed because of political reason, not because of economics. As with every 'gain' there will be unintended consequence. People who tend to vote 'green' feel better because of the lack of combustion. But there is no real accounting of the collateral damage... strip mining of lithium, remote pollution from electrical plants, recycling path for used batteries at EoL, etc. Not to mention the unknown hazards of humans being in a highly electrified vehicle (radiation, post-crash fires, etc.)

The best selling non-Tesla EV was the Leaf and it sold 30K units in its peak year (2018). The reality of what the market is ready for an what those in politics would lead you to believe are two very different things.

Don’t even get me started on what too much fluoride does to you. Great for your teeth but makes you very passive and agreeable.

 

[MoPowered]

Doesn’t anyone remember about the warnings about cell phones giving people tumors in the faces, jaws, ears and wear the carried it on their body. I’m not an alarmists or conspiracy theorist but come on people there’s truth in all this. And besides we all know Researchers in long white Lab coats give animals cancer! I’ll take an Old Dodge over a new Chevy and screw Ford trucks never ever entertained having one. Look at all the hoops Ford is going through to stay relevant, New Ford Bronco, whoopie’, no mare cars being produced except the Ford Mustang and that ugly as hell Mach E 4 door electric Mustang crossover.
Everyone wants a bite from Dodge and Jeep because they are dominating in real world 4x4 and SUV’s. I’m just hoping Ram brings back the Ramcharger in a full size 2 amd 4 door model.