I don't fully agree with this guy,as the stock shift points are 5600 rpm,not the 6,000 he's using,but still a decent article on gearing

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No need to share it, the information was already available...
You know what,that was exactly what i figured you'd say. ;)
With that i'm done replying to your posts,as it never goes well for you,:waytogo:
Have a good evening sir:cheers:
 

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I never claimed it to be my post,lol. I shared it to help out alot of guys who have never had much experience with how final drive ratio's affect a vehicles performance,it was intended to be used as an educational post,nothing more / nothing less.
Question though,if you found it a year ago,why didn't you have the common courtesy to share it at the time????
Seems like the correct thing to do would be credit to the original author in your post… I mean, that’s what normal folks do when they share someone else’s information.

I think they even have a fancy word for when people share other peoples work without giving credit.

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seems like the correct thing to do would be credit to the original author in your post… I mean, that’s what normal folks do when they share someone else’s information.
Well if you find the original posters name,feel free to attach it.I found the post on facebook and it was already a copy and paste post,and there was no name attached to it,so if you feel it's necessary,go find the OP's name,and feel free to add it to the thread.I don't have any issues if you wanted to add the OP's name, i agree the OP should be credited.
 

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https://5thgenrams. com/community/threads/an-engineers-ultimate-guide-to-3-21-vs-3-92-axle-ratio.16986/

On the 5th Gen Ram Forum

That took all of 2 seconds…
 
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**************/community/threads/an-engineers-ultimate-guide-to-3-21-vs-3-92-axle-ratio.16986/

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That took all of 2 seconds…
Your link is no good.
Still not seeing a name,are you to lazy to copy the OP's name and add it here :rolleyes:
You went to the work of finding the post,and you still don't have the common courtesy to add the OP's name to this post :rolleyes:
 

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Your link is no good.
Still not seeing a name,are you to lazy to copy the OP's name and add it here :rolleyes:
Just do what I did. Copy any one of the lines that was plagiarized, paste into google, and click on the first hit.
 
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Just do what I did. Copy any one of the lines that was plagiarized, paste into google, and click on the first hit.
Or you could have the common courtesy to add the OP's name to this post
I already told you,if you find the OP's name,you could add it,and i don't think anybody would have any issues,but that appears to be out of your league,as it would involve some common courtesy.
You'd rather be stubborn i see :rolleyes:
Hell dude i'd even be okay if you found the original thread and copy and pasted it here if you feel it's needed,i have no issues with giving the OP credit,so feel free to add the original post along with the OP's name.
 
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Or you could have the common courtesy to add the OP's name to this post
I already told you,if you find the OP's name,you could add it,and i don't think anybody would have any issues,but that appears to be out of your league,as it would involve some common courtesy.
You'd rather be stubborn i see :rolleyes:
Hell dude i'd even be okay if you found the original thread and copy and pasted it here if you feel it's needed,i have no issues with giving the OP credit,so feel free to add the original post along with the OP's name.
If you have no issues then why not do the proper research and fix YOUR post.

Could have been done 30 minutes ago rather than whining to me. You seem capable of using google.
 
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If you have no issues then why not do the proper research and fix YOUR post.

Could have been done 30 minutes ago rather than whining to me. You seem capable of using google.
Or you could have done the proper thing and actually added the original post 30 minutes ago,but you're to busy trying to make me look stupid,and we all know that never works in your favour :waytogo: :Big Laugh:
But lets keep this up,until the thread gets locked down,as you seem bound and determined to have it locked down :rolleyes:
Now do the proper thing and get off your high horse stool and add the OP's original post,so we can give him credit
Hell dude i'd even give you a thumbs up and a thank-you if you actually posted the original here,as i think we should be giving the OP credit too.
If it'd make you feel better,copy the OP's original post and start your own thread,nobody would care,and then you could take credit for being the hero ;)
 
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Or you could have done the proper thing and actually added the original post 30 minutes ago,but you're to busy trying to make me look stupid,and we all know that never works in your favour :waytogo: :Big Laugh:
But lets keep this up,until the thread gets locked down,as you seem bound and determined to have it locked down :rolleyes:
Now do the proper thing and get off your high horse stool and add the OP's original post,so we can give him credit
Hell dude i'd even give you a thumbs up and a thank-you if you actually posted the original here,as i think we should be giving the OP credit too.
If it'd make you feel better,copy the OP's original post and start your own thread,nobody would care,and then you could take credit for being the hero ;)
I’m no hero… just a guy that deleted 8th gear in his truck and got rid of his exhaust drone…
 
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I’m no hero… just a guy that deleted 8th gear in his truck and got rid of his exhaust drone…
That's pretty obvious isn't,anybody else would of actually helped out and posted the original thread when they found it.
Not sure why you seem to stubborn to help people out, you already found the original thread,why didn't you copy and paste it here,instead of wasting everybodies time trying to make me look stupid.
You are a bit differant is about all i got dude :rolleyes:
Somehow we got off on the wrong foot,i don't know where,but you've had a burr up your rear for me,for quite awhile,so i apologize for apparently upsetting you somewhere.
 
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Oh, hell no! I value longevity of the powertrain over saving $1,000 in gas over the shortened engine life, whatever amount those are.

Since I got 6 speed and found they split 5th and 6th O.D. ratios around the former single 5th O.D. ratio, I only tow in 4th, 1:1 with 3.73 axle ratio.

It shifts between 4th and 3rd on hills. Most of these 4th gens came with 3:73 ratio axles unless you wanted to order higher and wait.
Thought with the 6.4 hemi RAM recommended using 0-20 Synthetic oil? i see you have listed 5-30. I have a 2015 2500 6.4Engine, 4:11 Gears 75,000 miles. Really think I could do better with the 3:73 to improve my mileage, mt trailer is Under 6,000lbs dry and under 9, 000lbs loaded. I am lucky to get between 15 & 17 MPG without towing trailer. Also did you notice any advantages from the Banks Diff covers? i am also going to purchase those, along with an extra capacity Trans oil pan.
 
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Thought with the 6.4 hemi RAM recommended using 0-20 Synthetic oil? i see you have listed 5-30. I have a 2015 2500 6.4Engine, 4:11 Gears 75,000 miles. Really think I could do better with the 3:73 to improve my mileage, mt trailer is Under 6,000lbs dry and under 9, 000lbs loaded. I am lucky to get between 15 & 17 MPG without towing trailer. Also did you notice any advantages from the Banks Diff covers? i am also going to purchase those, along with an extra capacity Trans oil pan.
All 6.4's call for 0W-40,cars and trucks included.
I switched the wifes high compression SRT 6.4 over to Redline 5W-30,and it was alot happier on it,then it was on the reconmended 0W-40 Pennsoil Ultra Platinium
 

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Thought with the 6.4 hemi RAM recommended using 0-20 Synthetic oil? i see you have listed 5-30. I have a 2015 2500 6.4Engine, 4:11 Gears 75,000 miles. Really think I could do better with the 3:73 to improve my mileage, mt trailer is Under 6,000lbs dry and under 9, 000lbs loaded. I am lucky to get between 15 & 17 MPG without towing trailer. Also did you notice any advantages from the Banks Diff covers? i am also going to purchase those, along with an extra capacity Trans oil pan.

No no no
Long story, 0W-40 only, they're in bed with PUP, shears down quickly.
Doesn't need 0W-40. Only 40 for racing or hot towing, only 0W for arctic startup.
Lots of posts on this.
 

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It's not. Good grief. The engine is not lugging at 1500+ rpms. And at lower rpms it's well under 60 mph so power isn't an issue.
It is for me. 2019 Classic Crew cab with the 6.4' box. This is a heavy truck, and is generally loaded with supplies or people (hence why I bought a truck). Sure if you have a smaller/lighter truck configuration and normally have the box filled with air maybe it doesn't matter... but then why did you buy a truck?
 

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It is for me. 2019 Classic Crew cab with the 6.4' box. This is a heavy truck, and is generally loaded with supplies or people (hence why I bought a truck). Sure if you have a smaller/lighter truck configuration and normally have the box filled with air maybe it doesn't matter... but then why did you buy a truck?

I've owned my truck for far longer than you and have towed and hauled various loads all over the place with it. It isn't lugging for you either, low rpms doesn't automatically equal lugging.

You're trying to argue as if its a fact, when in reality it's a preference. You prefer to run around at higher rpms? Knock yourself out. Just don't make statements about the truck as if your preference is a fact ("lugging"), because it isn't. The 3.21 in 8th is a perfectly capable gear ratio.
 
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I've owned my truck for far longer than you and have towed and hauled various loads all over the place with it. It isn't lugging for you either, low rpms doesn't automatically equal lugging.

You're trying to argue as if its a fact, when in reality it's a preference. You prefer to run around at higher rpms? Knock yourself out. Just don't make statements about the truck as if your preference is a fact ("lugging"), because it isn't. The 3.21 in 8th is a perfectly capable gear ratio.
You might as well bang your head against a brick wall arguing with this guy RF,lol.He's smarter then all of us put together in his opinion :rolleyes:
 

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I've owned my truck for far longer than you and have towed and hauled various loads all over the place with it. It isn't lugging for you either, low rpms doesn't automatically equal lugging.

You're trying to argue as if its a fact, when in reality it's a preference. You prefer to run around at higher rpms? Knock yourself out. Just don't make statements about the truck as if your preference is a fact ("lugging"), because it isn't. The 3.21 in 8th is a perfectly capable gear ratio.
It is clearly lugging. Next time run your truck with a scan tool hooked up, check your speed increase for a series of incremental change in throttle percentage (say like 5%), see if it is proportional increase in speed (it's not). Then try with it dropped a gear and see how the truck responds... 3.21 with 8th gear is not a setup for anyone that uses a truck in any form other than a single occupant commuter vehicle.

If you are relying on your calibrated butt to justify the non-lugging then cool, guess you must be right.
 
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It is clearly lugging. Next time run your truck with a scan tool hooked up, check your speed increase for a series of incremental change in throttle percentage (say like 5%), see if it is proportional increase in speed (it's not). Then try with it dropped a gear and see how the truck responds... 3.21 with 8th gear is not a setup for anyone that uses a truck in any form other than a single occupant commuter vehicle.

If you are relying on your calibrated butt to justify the non-lugging then cool, guess you must be right.

I love how you think the behaviour of a computer controlled throttle cable/software tune is proof of lugging. And did you give even a second thought further into what happens if you tried that experiment 2 gears further down... oh wow, she's really responsive at 4000 rpms, guess that means she's just sittin here luggin away at 3000!
 

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Maybe you are hung up on semantics... If someone presses the accelerator down another 5% and the truck fails to go any faster, what do you call that?
 
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