Interesting tear down of 2 engines Valvoline syn vs. Valvoline conv.

[Jas34]

Not sure if this has been linked to on this site, but it's the first I've seen of it. Not Ram engines, but interesting comparison. Also note the oil change intervals used (for those 3 k oil change fanatics who insist the manufacturers are just trying to sell you replacement vehicles). Full disclosure...I'm a 5k oil change fanatic.

Testing different oils over 4 years and 1 MILLION miles

Josh from Valvoline conducted this test for almost 4 years at the Valvoline Test Facility in Kentucky, and we were lucky to get to come in just for the end t...

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[04fxdwgi]

That was a great, real world comparison.

 

[Jas34]

My take home message was I can't believe they got not just one, but two Ford Ecoboost engines to make it all the way to 500k without blowing up.

I actually found that the video pretty much backed up my early experience with synthetics. In the 90's , Mercedes-Benz was pushing Mobil 1 as a preferred oil. We were pulling a lot of heads on 6 cyl. gas engines back then due to issues with valve guides. I remember being able to tell pretty easily which customers were running Mobil 1 in their cars. That sold me on synthetics since.

 

[Docwagon1776]

My take home message was I can't believe they got not just one, but two Ford Ecoboost engines to make it all the way to 500k without blowing up.

I'm no expert but I'm guessing running mostly steady state with light load explains the lab longevity over real world longevity. Not much in the way of cold starts, heating/cooling cycles, component strain from acceleration/deceleration, etc.

 

[Jas34]

I'm no expert but I'm guessing running mostly steady state with light load explains the lab longevity over real world longevity. Not much in the way of cold starts, heating/cooling cycles, component strain from acceleration/deceleration, etc.

I'd agree. They did mention in the video how they ran them. They did their best to simulate real world driving, so not just steady state, but I'm sure it wasn't as harsh as the real thing.

The cars also got way more attention paid to them than an average driver does. Can't believe how no one bothers to check their oil level anymore. Of course, on Ram's new twin turbo 6cyl, you no longer can. I do realize it electronically checks it for you. Call me old school and outdated but that just doesn't sit right with me. I want to be able to touch and hold a dipstick. It's part of my vehicle bonding process.

 

[EdGs]

I'd agree. They did mention in the video how they ran them. They did their best to simulate real world driving, so not just steady state, but I'm sure it wasn't as harsh as the real thing.

The cars also got way more attention paid to them than an average driver does. Can't believe how no one bothers to check their oil level anymore. Of course, on Ram's new twin turbo 6cyl, you no longer can. I do realize it electronically checks it for you. Call me old school and outdated but that just doesn't sit right with me. I want to be able to touch and hold a dipstick. It's part of my vehicle bonding process.

And when the oil level sensor fails in such a way that it does not see a low oil condition, hopefully the mfr stands behind the repair.

I get the whole "save 50 cents per vehicle built = millions over the run", but just seems so unreliable.

I guess time will tell, but hard pass for me.

 

[diymirage]

I'd agree. They did mention in the video how they ran them. They did their best to simulate real world driving, so not just steady state, but I'm sure it wasn't as harsh as the real thing.

The cars also got way more attention paid to them than an average driver does. Can't believe how no one bothers to check their oil level anymore. Of course, on Ram's new twin turbo 6cyl, you no longer can. I do realize it electronically checks it for you. Call me old school and outdated but that just doesn't sit right with me. I want to be able to touch and hold a dipstick. It's part of my vehicle bonding process.

Most people would rather check their phone then check their oil when gassing up

 

[Jeepwalker]

Nicely done video. Thanks for sharing.

I've been using Mobil 1 in my John Deere garden tractor since I got it (~2000-ish). Briggs engine. First mod I made was drill a hole in the dash and installed an analog mechanical oil pressure gauge. It's the same pressure now as when I bought it...and I've mowed a TON of grass with that baby (multiple properties)! I keep telling myself I'm going to get a new one (every yr for the last 12 years!)...but it just keeps going and going.

Some of my other vehicles (Ram gets PUP) get synthetic oil too.

I wonder if switching to synthetic oil would help "clean" up an engine after a couple years?? Oh I know...switching to synthetic will result in leaks (I better get that one in there before someone else does ). But I wonder if it would help clean up an engine?

 

[Jas34]

And when the oil level sensor fails in such a way that it does not see a low oil condition, hopefully the mfr stands behind the repair.

For me, it's even more than that. Our other vehicle is a '22 Tucson hybrid. Love the car but I've noticed, and others have too, that with the GDI injection system, short tripping it in the winter tends to foul the oil with fuel. I like being able to see if the oil level has come up, and smell any fuel on the dipstick. Until they put a smell sensor in it...

 

[Burla]

Not sure if this has been linked to on this site, but it's the first I've seen of it. Not Ram engines, but interesting comparison. Also note the oil change intervals used (for those 3 k oil change fanatics who insist the manufacturers are just trying to sell you replacement vehicles). Full disclosure...I'm a 5k oil change fanatic.

Testing different oils over 4 years and 1 MILLION miles

Josh from Valvoline conducted this test for almost 4 years at the Valvoline Test Facility in Kentucky, and we were lucky to get to come in just for the end t...

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Kudos for Valvoline to use their conventional against their synthetic, I love this video thanks for posting!