Morimoto headlights

[Jrod]

Do you think you got a bad set? I’m just asking because I’m the thread below based off the pics the fog lights look pretty bright to me.

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/morimoto-xb-vertical-fogs-installed-small-review.114177/

No, I don’t think I got a bad set. Pictures are deceiving. Lights reflected off a wall or off of snow look very bright, but on a dark open road they are literally completely washed out. It’s not until you install them that you realize what you get with 1200 lumens.

 

[Jrod]

The retrofit source is basically like the main supplier for these lights and many others. They work closely with morimoto. Hence why JB1 recommended voicing your opinion on their Facebook page, like many others have.

The more you know :****:

I don't make it a point to stoke flame wars with a supplier making money off the manufacturer... That's a lose lose position.. Especially a supplier I've never dealt with.. Hints why I went straight to the manufacturer and received the boot for my review. Meanwhile I don't have a problem sharing my experience with a community I am a part of, which also affects consumer opinion. That aside, you and anyone else who desires, can go relay what you've read till your heart's content. If they feel like disputing my comments on here than so be it.

 

[Kinetic]

No, I don’t think I got a bad set. Pictures are deceiving. Lights reflected off a wall or off of snow look very bright, but on a dark open road they are literally completely washed out. It’s not until you install them that you realize what you get with 1200 lumens.

This is true, pics can be deceiving and good point on pics in the snow, makes the lights brighter. Nobody has posted up the fogs in normal night shots?

 

[Jrod]

This is true, pics can be deceiving and good point on pics in the snow, makes the lights brighter. Nobody has posted up the fogs in normal night shots?

Not normal night shots on the road but in a parking lot instead. The fogs looked a lot brighter in the pics than in real life. They are pointed towards the grounds as far as they can go because they are useless otherwise.The curb in front of me was approximately 20ft away.

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/dd...hs-morimoto-vertical-led.116821/#post-1679847

 

[Chief_6.7]

Not normal night shots on the road but in a parking lot instead. The fogs looked a lot brighter in the pics than in real life. They are pointed towards the grounds as far as they can go because they are useless otherwise.The curb in front of me was approximately 20ft away.

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/dd...hs-morimoto-vertical-led.116821/#post-1679847

I don’t expect fog lights to light up the road that’s why you have the headlights. But even in your pics I got to say they don’t look bad at all. But again they are pics only and not right in front of my

 

[TJames]

I don't make it a point to stoke flame wars with a supplier making money off the manufacturer... That's a lose lose position.. Especially a supplier I've never dealt with.. Hints why I went straight to the manufacturer and received the boot for my review. Meanwhile I don't have a problem sharing my experience with a community I am a part of, which also affects consumer opinion. That aside, you and anyone else who desires, can go relay what you've read till your heart's content. If they feel like disputing my comments on here than so be it.

Whatever floats your boat bud, I was just clarifying what JB1 was trying to tell you. Whatever anyone does with that info is up to them.
Either way I see your point that you made (or tried to at least) to Morimoto. The lights do look pretty damn sexy though IMO.

 

[Jrod]

I don’t expect fog lights to light up the road that’s why you have the headlights. But even in your pics I got to say they don’t look bad at all. But again they are pics only and not right in front of my

Yeah, it's deceiving. The difference is literally night and day compared to LED's in the factory housing. Once I pull out the Morimoto's for my old setup I'll post again.

I may tinker and see if I can retrofit HID's in the Morimoto fogs. I'm not an expert so it may be a while.

 

[OC455]

I like the way the XB's look. But with what has been said before, would like to have someone that gets a set of these to do a real world review.

I've never owned any vehicle that has had projector lights, HID's or combos of both. For work, I have driven a Ford PI Utility when they initially came out that had projector lights and I hated them. On low beams I would get "high beamed" by on coming traffic all the time, and either on low beams or high beams during bad weather or night time driving (IMHO) they sucked. Couldn't see good with them at all. The newer Ford PI Utility I drive, they have LED (non-projector) low beam and regular halogen high beams. The LED low beams work well and have a good spread and are bright but do not have the throw of light down the road like the halogen high beams do. The XB's look to have LED low/high beam projectors.

Like I said, I'd like to see an unbiased review.

 

[Jrod]

I like the way the XB's look. But with what has been said before, would like to have someone that gets a set of these to do a real world review.

I'd be interested to see this too. Especially since they've removed the amount of lumen XB's have from their specs. I would baseline these at 2600 lumens, which is what all of their other LED headlight assembly's are advertised at. Mind you, the RAM version were advertised at 2400 lumens when they first posted on their website. Night time back road and unlit highway video would help a lot.

 

[Kinetic]

TRS posted that they won't be able to show any night shots or anything until they get them in stock as the ones they have been showing are just 3D built prototypes and i guess not fully functional.

Something just doesn't add up here, it seems they're counting on preorders and not so much orders later once they are out, possibly because they already know the performance isn't anywhere near HID's.

 

[Jrod]

TRS posted that they won't be able to show any night shots or anything until they get them in stock as the ones they have been showing are just 3D built prototypes and i guess not fully functional.

Something just doesn't add up here, it seems they're counting on preorders and not so much orders later once they are out, possibly because they already know the performance isn't anywhere near HID's.

They are either going to have to produce their own video, or rely on people to shoot from the hip and hopefully someone will post a review. I won't be that sucker without an advertised lumens in their specs to justify the purchase.. just my 2 cents lol

 

[Kinetic]

They are either going to have to produce their own video, or rely on people to shoot from the hip and hopefully someone will post a review. Without an advertised lumens in their specs to justify the purchase, I won't be that sucker.. just my 2 cents lol

Agreed, no way I'd buy them without knowing how they perform in the real world. Also the warranty makes me worry. if something goes wrong I'm assuming you ship them back for repair, so you are potentially without headlights until they ship you a new set? Or how is that supposed to work?

 

[Jrod]

Agreed, no way I'd buy them without knowing how they perform in the real world. Also the warranty makes me worry. if something goes wrong I'm assuming you ship them back for repair, so you are potentially without headlights until they ship you a new set? Or how is that supposed to work?

I haven't read that far into it. If that's the case, my only suggestion would be to keep the factory set just in case.

 

[OC455]

Especially since they've removed the amount of lumen XB's have from their specs. I would baseline these at 2600 lumens

Lumen rating is subjective...I've seen flashlights that claim 500 Lm, with multiple LEDs that wouldn't illuminate 10ft away, and I have a Streamlight running on 2 AA batteries that's rated at 150 Lm and I can see stuff 200yrds out with it.

Depends on how the manufacturer measures the light output.

 

[Jrod]

Lumen rating is subjective...I've seen flashlights that claim 500 Lm, with multiple LEDs that wouldn't illuminate 10ft away, and I have a Streamlight running on 2 AA batteries that's rated at 150 Lm and I can see stuff 200yrds out with it.

Depends on how the manufacturer measures the light output.

Apples & oranges.. I'll keep that in mind, when I'm buying flashlights, at a fraction of the cost compared to these headlights...

 

[OC455]

Apples & oranges.. I'll keep that in mind, when I'm buying flashlights, at a fraction of the cost compared to these headlights...

I guess what I was trying to relay here was that I have gotten away from relying on manufacturers measured Lumen output vs. actual first hand usage...unbiased review.

 

[Jrod]

I guess what I was trying to relay here was that I have gotten away from relying on manufacturers measured Lumen output vs. actual first hand usage...unbiased review.

I get ya, I was just being difficult. Unfortunately Morimoto already disappointed with their XB fogs set at 1200 lumen. They don't have lumens posted for their XB headlights anymore. It's suspect to be 2400 still because that's what they had originally posted. Yet, the rest of their headlights are rated at 2600. Nobody will know anything until they start hitting the streets. My original point was $1625 is a lot of jack for very little information. Hints it would be nice to have some sort of baseline.

 

[OC455]

No worries, this point in my life I probably over analyze, over research anything I'm interested in before I spend my money. Not having specs or reviews I get it.

 

[Jrod]

No worries, this point in my life I probably over analyze, over research anything I'm interested in before I spend my money. Not having specs or reviews I get it.

Me too, you are not alone lol

 

[pgr1990]

A proper LED projector will emit more light than the stock halogen projectors. It won’t be as good as an HID setup (especially long distance) but for someone like me, I don’t drive many miles of back roads in the middle of the night so I’m not very concerned.

Morimoto is a very reputable company that makes quality products. I think concern over the performance of these headlights is being blown out of proportion. So far they just had a 3d printed model. Let’s wait for the production series and actual output shots before placing judgement on them.


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