Oil Filter Recommendations ??

[Burla]

Amsoil is no longer made by champ, they are now wix clones but the situation is in flux. Wix no longer makes spun glass filters, whatever Amsoil ends up as we need to wait and see.

Tune into blackstone thread, the 10-48 is a clone to EA15K50, fellas this is from amsoil the horses mouth...

AMSOIL EA15K50 Oil Filter Temporarily Not Recommended for Select Ram and GM Applications
We are no longer recommending the AMSOIL EA15K50 Oil Filter for 2007-2013 GM vehicles with the 5.3L engine and 2013-current Ram vehicles with the 5.7L or 6.4L engines. There is no cause for alarm if you or one of your customers is using the EA15K50 Filter with one of the listed vehicles; we are acting out of an abundance of caution. We have sold thousands of AMSOIL EA15K50 Oil Filters to customers with one of the GM or Ram engines listed above. A very small percentage of those customers have reported gauges or check-engine lights indicating slightly lower than normal oil pressure.

mind you this is the best small filter made for the hemi as far as lose thick media and flow, and they still throw codes.

The obvious truth is Rams didn't do any work on specing the smaller filters, my long held opinion they spec'd it to solve a problem with the new steering hardware. The fact is the smaller filters has caused issues, you think Amsoil would pull it's recommendation ***** nilly? It was a bch slap in the face when manu's hung these freak'n tiny filters on v8's throwing oil. Mind you there is no tsb's on the larger filters in early 4 gens, only when they put those tiny filters on. If you don't like the clearance, toss a couple dollars at a dual filter set up and make your life easier and the oil flow better. @Wild one break us off a pic.

Use the small filter at your own risk, you been warned.

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[Burla]

I have a 19 Classic and use FE2/MO-899/RP20-820 size filters. Takes some finesse from front to get it in there. Fram was purchased, but until the market catches up I will choose Carquest EP filter.

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We need some work on this filter, Travis likes this one I do believe. Looks like a top choice, but again who makes them and will production be the same?

NEW CarQuest Extended Performance Oil Filter

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[jc56berg]

I know that this subject has been hashed out for ever but.. and I am not seeking to open a major thread here but with the demise of FRAM our choices are becoming quite limited.
I am a maintenance nut, I change my engine oils before 5000 miles, I use factory recommended oils with recommended viscosity ratings. We have 6 of these HEMI's currently. ( one virgin with 180K One with 150K never an engine problem)
Now to the MEAT. I have used FRAM filters on all of our cars and trucks for many years, always the upgraded ones. Last couple of years the FV2 for the HEMI's both 5.7 and 6.4. Now the Fram filters are unavailable it seems anyplace. (Bankruptcy seems to be the cause). I have checked high and low,, nun, nada, notthn no place.
I have tried looking at other brands but there doesn't seem to be anything out there that compares with capacity and quality of the actual filter material for synthetic motor oils. The MOPAR MO399 is a joke, The Mobil1 M1-113 is the same size and construction of the MOPAR filter..

NOW Has anyone out there found a quality filter with synthetic specific filtration and with sufficient capacity to take care of our beloved HEMI's ???

That teacup 339 is a joke for a 5.7 engine. I would guess if you bring your Ram in for one of those quick oil change it saves the tech one minute for the process. That thing couldn't filter a fart. I have been using the MO-899 and no problems. Good oil pressure, no leaks etc... I think the 899 is for the 6.4L engines.

 

[mikeru]

Amsoil is no longer made by champ, they are now wix clones but the situation is in flux. Wix no longer makes spun glass filters, whatever Amsoil ends up as we need to wait and see.

Tune into blackstone thread, the 10-48 is a clone to EA15K50, fellas this is from amsoil the horses mouth...

AMSOIL EA15K50 Oil Filter Temporarily Not Recommended for Select Ram and GM Applications
We are no longer recommending the AMSOIL EA15K50 Oil Filter for 2007-2013 GM vehicles with the 5.3L engine and 2013-current Ram vehicles with the 5.7L or 6.4L engines. There is no cause for alarm if you or one of your customers is using the EA15K50 Filter with one of the listed vehicles; we are acting out of an abundance of caution. We have sold thousands of AMSOIL EA15K50 Oil Filters to customers with one of the GM or Ram engines listed above. A very small percentage of those customers have reported gauges or check-engine lights indicating slightly lower than normal oil pressure.

mind you this is the best small filter made for the hemi as far as lose thick media and flow, and they still throw codes.

The obvious truth is Rams didn't do any work on specing the smaller filters, my long held opinion they spec'd it to solve a problem with the new steering hardware. The fact is the smaller filters has caused issues, you think Amsoil would pull it's recommendation ***** nilly? It was a bch slap in the face when manu's hung these freak'n tiny filters on v8's throwing oil. Mind you there is no tsb's on the larger filters in early 4 gens, only when they put those tiny filters on. If you don't like the clearance, toss a couple dollars at a dual filter set up and make your life easier and the oil flow better. @Wild one break us off a pic.

Use the small filter at your own risk, you been warned.

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I don't have access to any development documentation and I doubt anyone here does. I don't disagree with you that the OEM filter size seems absurdly small. But I don't agree that Ram didn't do any work on specifying the filters they ultimately decided to go with. No car company would be that stupid. But I'm not naive. I don't put a lot of faith into their development decisions. My assumption would be that their testing showed that the smaller filter would be enough to let the engine survive past the warranty period. But your quote from Amsoil has me reconsidering my decision to go with the tea cup filter. I'll be doing an oil change on our 2020 Limited this week. I guess it's is a good time to install a remote filter kit.

Our 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi is spec'd to use the same filter as the Ram 1500 Hemi. But it's not in the same location and is very accessible. There's no reason to go with that small of a filter on that vehicle. I just did an oil change on it last week, and used the OEM spec'd filter because I already have them on hand. Like our Ram 1500, the Grand Cherokee is driven less than 5k miles per year. So when I change the oil next year I'll go with a larger filter because it will easily fit. Or maybe I'll just swap a larger filter on before then now that I've seen that Amsoil statement.

 

[Burla]

I don't have access to any development documentation and I doubt anyone here does. I don't disagree with you that the OEM filter size seems absurdly small. But I don't agree that Ram didn't do any work on specifying the filters they ultimately decided to go with. No car company would be that stupid. But I'm not naive. I don't put a lot of faith into their development decisions. My assumption would be that their testing showed that the smaller filter would be enough to let the engine survive past the warranty period. But your quote from Amsoil has me reconsidering my decision to go with the tea cup filter. I'll be doing an oil change on our 2020 Limited this week. I guess it's is a good time to install a remote filter kit.

Our 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi is spec'd to use the same filter as the Ram 1500 Hemi. But it's not in the same location and is very accessible. There's no reason to go with that small of a filter on that vehicle. I just did an oil change on it last week, and used the OEM spec'd filter because I already have them on hand. Like our Ram 1500, the Grand Cherokee is driven less than 5k miles per year. So when I change the oil next year I'll go with a larger filter because it will easily fit. Or maybe I'll just swap a larger filter on before then now that I've seen that Amsoil statement.

I respect that. one to grow on, not only one auto manu but rather two were having code problems with that smaller filters. Those filters were fine on many many vehicles such as small 4 bangers etc, but two v8's had issues with them to the point Amsoil took that unprecedented step of not recommending them on two vehicles. And consider this, there is nothing wrong with those filters, best made. It is just too restrictive and in my opinion they should have done better in both cases RAM and Chevy. Makes me wanna look up what Ford was running, lol. I think I will = curious.

 

[mikeru]

I respect that. one to grow on, not only one auto manu but rather two were having code problems with that smaller filters. Those filters were fine on many many vehicles such as small 4 bangers etc, but two v8's had issues with them to the point Amsoil took that unprecedented step of not recommending them on two vehicles. And consider this, there is nothing wrong with those filters, best made. It is just too restrictive and in my opinion they should have done better in both cases RAM and Chevy. Makes me wanna look up what Ford was running, lol. I think I will = curious.

My 2014 3.5L EcoBoost uses a larger filter, but not by a lot.



Edit: Added pic.

 

[Burla]

2018 Ford Coyote v8 f150 filter size 4"h x 3"w. So much larger then RAM/Chevy, and haven't heard any issues.

10-48 = 3"x3".

 

[mikeru]

2018 Ford Coyote v8 f150 filter size 4"h x 3"w. So much larger then RAM/Chevy, and haven't heard any issues.

10-48 = 3"x3".

F150 forums might disagree with you about not having issues lol. But no oil filter related issues.

 

[Govtman]

We need some work on this filter, Travis likes this one I do believe. Looks like a top choice, but again who makes them and will production be the same?

NEW CarQuest Extended Performance Oil Filter

Hello folks, I was shopping at Advance Auto today and found this 20,000 mile oil filter. It is intended for my 2021 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost. In this video, I cut...

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It is by PGI???? In Vietnam. The filtering levels I saw were equal or better than Fram Ultra.

 

[EdGs]

I have 1 XG2 in the shop, and just ordered the PB filter.

 

[Burla]

It is by PGI???? In Vietnam. The filtering levels I saw were equal or better than Fram Ultra.

So carquest EP the last 100% spun glass oil filter, the only one not canceled from first brands or redesign by wix xp? If so pretty amazing, looks like two great options I see pb or carquest EP.

 

[Bigskyroadglide]

Top Cross-Reference Filters (20-820)
Carquest Standard: 85372

Standard (R85372): Uses cellulose media, 95.1% efficiency at 20 microns, and a nitrile anti-drain back valve.

Carquest Premium: 85372MP
Premium (85372MP): Uses synthetic blend media, 2X capacity, and a silicone anti-drain back valve for high-temperature durability.

Motorcraft: FL820S
Mobil 1: M1-210A (or M1C-210A)
K&N: HP-2010
FRAM: XG2, TG2, EG2
Mopar: MO-899
WIX: 51372
Ryco: Z516
STP: S2, S2XL

 

[Govtman]

We need some work on this filter, Travis likes this one I do believe. Looks like a top choice, but again who makes them and will production be the same?

NEW CarQuest Extended Performance Oil Filter

Hello folks, I was shopping at Advance Auto today and found this 20,000 mile oil filter. It is intended for my 2021 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost. In this video, I cut...

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Unlock the full potential of your engine with our Carquest Extended Performance Oil Filter - designed for those who demand more from their vehicle. Engineered with advanced filtration technology, this oil filter provides superior protection for up to 20,000 miles, keeping your engine running clean and efficient for longer. Whether you're driving on highways or navigating city streets, the Carquest Extended Performance Oil Filter ensures your engine is protected, allowing you to drive with confidence. Get more out of your oil change with the filter that goes the distance.

Product Features:
Engineered for protection for up to 20,000 miles when used with the appropriate motor oil
Engineered for higher flow
High-flow full synthetic media
Hydrogenated nitrile gasket for extended performance
Textured surface for easy grip

99.5% at 20 microns

 

[Burla]

Top Cross-Reference Filters (20-820)
Carquest Standard: 85372

Standard (R85372): Uses cellulose media, 95.1% efficiency at 20 microns, and a nitrile anti-drain back valve.

Carquest Premium: 85372MP
Premium (85372MP): Uses synthetic blend media, 2X capacity, and a silicone anti-drain back valve for high-temperature durability.

Motorcraft: FL820S
Mobil 1: M1-210A (or M1C-210A)
K&N: HP-2010
FRAM: XG2, TG2, EG2
Mopar: MO-899
WIX: 51372
Ryco: Z516
STP: S2, S2XL

Has to be the EP for 100% syn. @Travis8352 knows, Trav is this spun glass?

Bottom line filter industry took a huge hit and I'm not sure dust has settled yet. Trying to keep up with it in filter thread, but good to tell the story so every knows. Race to the bottom right now in oil filters.

 

[Travis8352]

EP is 100% synthetic unsure if spun glass or poly but either way its 100% synthetic 99.5% at 25 microns. Premium is synthetic blend but 99.5% at 20 microns

 

[gounc82]

So for 5k intervals the Carquest Premium would be an excellent choice?

 

[Burla]

So for 5k intervals the Carquest Premium would be an excellent choice?

or more for sure.

Paper filters = 3k miles
Blends = 5k
Synthetic = Outlast your oil time or miles doesn't matter.

 

[gounc82]

Would you run that with PUP or Valvoline EP?

 

[Burla]

Would you run that with PUP or Valvoline EP?

I like PUP 5w30 and I run Valvoline EP in my other car so there is your answer, can't go wrong there. My hemi requires voodoo juice to shut up, or perhaps I would be running a euro 0w30 such as valvoline and dose it with a good moly count, or m1 esp euro 0w30.

 

[gounc82]

I have just stocked up on the Carquest Premium for $7.99 apiece at advance. I’ve always used PUP but I’m thinking about trying Valvoline EP next change.