Oil Filter Thread

[Wild one]

Today, at one of the local Wal-marts where I reside.

Sure wish Canuck Wally Worlds carried a filter selection that good.My local Wally World is one of their super centers,but it's filter selection sucks

 

[HEMIMANN]

Today, at one of the local Wal-marts where I reside.

wtf? Why would Wally World have completely different store stocking plans by region?

 

[Bigskyroadglide]

By chance, are you using an Royal Purple 20-820 or similar on your HEMI?

Yes. It purple not orange. And I realize it is probably produced on the same assembly line in the same factory and just painted different.

However, since the orange version is sold in Wally World, I cannot bring myself to go there, the last time I went into one, I was permanently scarred and (using a woke term), it's a trigger event for me and not in a good way. Nothing against anyone but, I do not go into Wally World for anything.

 

[Burla]

The rumor is Wally world delivers for free, but yeah Walmart isn't my favorite place to be.

Endurance is purple canister, deep purple, just has a fram label, of course it isn't produced anywhere other fram filters are built, it is an amsoil ea filter with a fram label.

 

[JHoward]

Yes. It purple not orange. And I realize it is probably produced on the same assembly line in the same factory and just painted different.

However, since the orange version is sold in Wally World, I cannot bring myself to go there, the last time I went into one, I was permanently scarred and (using a woke term), it's a trigger event for me and not in a good way. Nothing against anyone but, I do not go into Wally World for anything.

Lol, imagine that!

 

[JHoward]

The rumor is Wally world delivers for free, but yeah Walmart isn't my favorite place to be.

Endurance is purple canister, deep purple, just has a fram label, of course it isn't produced anywhere other fram filters are built, it is an amsoil ea filter with a fram label.

I wouldn't know about Wal-marts delivery service.

The Amsoil EAO11 oil filter is an absolute match for comparison to FRAM FE Synthetic ENDURANCE oil filter.

Same amount of inlet holes, thick base plate and outer canister with screen supported with wired backing synthetic micro glass filter media ... it even has the same leaf spring plastic by-pass valve set up.

... and isn't expensive.

 

[JHoward]

... I'm not using the FRAM FE series oil filter, but if my current selected filter goes AWOL or looses it's quality, I wouldn't "be scart" to use one.

 

[HEMIMANN]

I wouldn't know about Wal-marts delivery service.

The Amsoil AEO oil filter is an absolute match for comparison to FRAM FE Synthetic ENDURANCE oil filter.

Same amount of inlet holes, thick base plate and outer canister with screen supported synthetic micro glass filter media ... it even has the same leaf spring plastic by-pass valve set up.

... and isn't expensive.

How do we find cross reference for Amsoil oil filters?

 

[HEMIMANN]

Just got my 3 pack of Fram FE 10575 from Wally World. Yes, shipping is free for the 3 pack, $12.97 each.

Checked them over, tube slots look open (some reviewers said there were issues with partially-punched tube slots early on), canister stamped Made in USA. So far, so good.

No point in a pic, you've seen what they look like in previous posts.

 

[Sherman Bird]

... where have you been, lol?

Nobody wants something or anything new that hasn't been given an "tweaked" and updated name, it wouldn't sell, take the orange can and paint it a pretty blue with a cool sounding name and, walla!, money is made, lol.

You make legitimate point. Most folks do not realize that once the recalls were fixed on the Pinto Sedans, the cars were great little cars to have. Heck, I owned 3 of them and got them for pennies on the dollar just because of the publics' opinion. Many folks do not know that the Pinto station wagon was never in the recall. The tank was in the driver's rear quarter, away from the danger of explosion, but that didn't stop the mania from including them as well.

So, Ford did the smart thing market wise. They rebranded the Mustang as Mustang 2 in 1974... and what platform did they use!?! You guessed it.... THE PINTO! And the hapless public bought them as if they were going out of style!

The original HEMI was a trend setting monster engine. When this new generation was brought out, there was a lot of enthusiasm. ( Does that thing have a HEMI in it?) Remember that ad?

Life and marketing are predictable. From putting a toy in a meal and calling it a "Happy Meal" to Ads which appeal to machismo, (Guts! Glory! Ram!) the basic psychology is firmly repetitive and oh so "same song, different verse!".

 

[HEMIMANN]

Of course - the two redneck dudes with the Plymouth Duster jumping a ramp? Hilarious! Before FCA got ahold of them.

Hemi was marketing genius for those of us still around that knew what it was. But - we got suckered on a bad design for EPA (MDS, VVT combo), as well as using Hemi in non-race vehicles. Remember, Hemi doesn't show power advantage over same displacement in-line valve engines unless above 5,000 rpm.

Can read about it, also re-validated on Engine Masters Dyno. That's the whole point - opens up breathing at high rpm for racing! Doing it right for the intended application probably wouldn't have sold as many. Why? Because there are a bunch of fools out there.

 

[JHoward]

How do we find cross reference for Amsoil oil filters?

 

[HEMIMANN]

THank you - I will have to look again!

 

[Wild one]

Of course - the two redneck dudes with the Plymouth Duster jumping a ramp? Hilarious! Before FCA got ahold of them.

Hemi was marketing genius for those of us still around that knew what it was. But - we got suckered on a bad design for EPA (MDS, VVT combo), as well as using Hemi in non-race vehicles. Remember, Hemi doesn't show power advantage over same displacement in-line valve engines unless above 5,000 rpm.

Can read about it, also re-validated on Engine Masters Dyno. That's the whole point - opens up breathing at high rpm for racing! Doing it right for the intended application probably wouldn't have sold as many. Why? Because there are a bunch of fools out there.

One of the ways we used to keep high rpm AMC's alive was to add an extra oil line under the intake manifold and drill and tap into the #5 main bearing to keep enough oil fed to the mains so they wouldn't spin a bearing.I.'m starting to wonder if a guy couldn't add something similiar to a hemi utilizing a couple tapped holes off the lifter galleys with multiple feed lines off each hole, that are drilled through the block and situated so they fed a direct stream of oil at the cam lobes and lifters. I think with a little reworking the hemi's oiling system could be taken from mediocre to acceptable

 

[Sherman Bird]

One of the ways we used to keep high rpm AMC's alive was to add an extra oil line under the intake manifold and drill and tap into the #5 main bearing to keep enough oil fed to the mains so they wouldn't spin a bearing.I.'m starting to wonder if a guy couldn't add something similiar to a hemi utilizing a couple tapped holes off the lifter galleys with multiple feed lines off each hole, that are drilled through the block and situated so they fed a direct stream of oil at the cam lobes and lifters. I think with a little reworking the hemi's oiling system could be taken from mediocre to acceptable

NOOOOOOOOO! Then what would we complain about! LOL!

 

[JHoward]

One of the ways we used to keep high rpm AMC's alive was to add an extra oil line under the intake manifold and drill and tap into the #5 main bearing to keep enough oil fed to the mains so they wouldn't spin a bearing.I.'m starting to wonder if a guy couldn't add something similiar to a hemi utilizing a couple tapped holes off the lifter galleys with multiple feed lines off each hole, that are drilled through the block and situated so they fed a direct stream of oil at the cam lobes and lifters. I think with a little reworking the hemi's oiling system could be taken from mediocre to acceptable

...bumping up the engine idle speed(via, tune)and to keep from idling for too long wouldn't be easier?

 

[Wild one]

...bumping up the engine idle speed(via, tune)and to keep from idling for too long wouldn't be easier?

It is,but even that's not a guarantee'd fix.But at this point in time is one of the better fixes for a marginal oiling system,better then the high volumn pump trick and stock idle rpm that's making the rounds these days.If you're that far into the engine to replace the oil pump,i say suck it up,and also increase the idle rpm to 750 or slightly more,and do a proper mds delete with the plugs to direct a constant stream of oil to the lifter bores.
For some reason guys have missed the fact you can have all the volumn in the world,but when the cam lobes are hung out in the open in the middle of the crankcase with no pressurized oil fed to the lobe or lifter wheel,you're not accomplishing all that much with a high volumn pump,but Sky/Reinigated has created a myth that's hard to dispell

 

[MegaHertz]

*sigh* big long discussion on this way back with pics.
Seems rams weren't built all the same, maybe revisions or generational changes in heavy duty, who knows?

Molded lower radiator hose doesn't allow a larger diameter oil filter. Would have to go a non molded hose and other fooling around cause there's also a Y connector in it. Not happening.
Longest filter of stock diameter is 20-500 or FE 10575

Last oil change I did, ordered a replacement from Autozone. K&N brand, just like I got last time: HP-1017. However, when I went to pull off the old filter, I noticed it was substantially taller than the HP-1017 that I was about to swap in. Looked at the used filter, it was an HP-2011. I had ordered both using the Autozone part finder, as far as I remember. So, don't know how I ended up with different filters on separate occasions. But, the K&N HP-2011 fit just fine and it's bigger than the HP-1017.

According to K&N website, both are 3" diameter and M22 x 1.5 threads. HP-1017 is 3.75" tall, whereas the 2011 is a full inch taller at 4.78".

 

[White six four]

wtf? Why would Wally World have completely different store stocking plans by region?

I live an hour east of the twin sh!tties and the couple of walmarts around me all stock the endurance line.

 

[David H]

After reading all this I checked the filter on my truck. It was a cheapo paper filter. Ran the truck up to 190 deg oil temp and let it idle for a minute. 36 PSI
So I bought this, installed and got the same results as the paper filter. 190 deg and 35 PSI at idle.
Thought I would see a change. Did I miss something?