Safe to use netural with 4th gen 8 speed?

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Crianor

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Having tested this out for over a week now, theres some big limitation to the fuel cut-off while coasting.

First, it is definitely speed sensative, I was stuck in traffic this morning and rolled downhill for well over a KM at about 30 to 40 KPH. The engine was running the entire time. The fuel cut off never came on. On many hills, the cut-off works just like an engine break and you have to either feather the pedal to keep a constant speed, or let the speed fall and speed up again.

And on short trips it almost never cuts off because the engine isn't up to temperature yet.

What's more fuel efficient: coasting downhill at 100 KPH at 1800 RPM feathering the pedal to keep a consistent speed, or shifting to neutral and idling at 500 RPM.

Without having a computer hooked up, I think there is still something to be had by shifting into neutral (real or unreal safety concerns aside).

And just to correct a statement about outsmarting the computer... The computers in these things are tasked to do some very specific things. And one of those tasks isn't "achieve the best fuel mileage possible". It is a balance between achieving operating temperature, maximizing power, drivability, comfort, etc.

As a example, one of the truck show that runs the "Ike Gaintlet" was quite frustrated with the new GMC 2500 or 3500 because I'm tow haul mode, the transmission was not smart enough to keep the engine in the peak power range. As a result, the truck would hit the desired speed and wid slow down as the RPMs fell. It would finally shift to a lower gear and accelerate back up to the desired speed. This cycle continued all the way up the hill. Ms the speed drop off was 10 to 15 MPH. A person could easily fix this by shifting the tranny to the appropriate gear and hold the same speed all the way up the hill.
 

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I have thought about purchasing a bull bar for hyper-milers. Nothing worse than hyper-milers utilizing the fast lane.
 

john94si

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BMW uses the same 8speed and they released a feature called "sailing" last year. Its a software upgrade.

I used it in a 2014 bmw. It was pretty cool.
BMW EfficientDynamics: ECO PRO Mode now with sailing function and anticipation assistant.

Thanks to new functions for the ECO PRO Mode, which can be activated via the Driving Experience Control feature, BMW is increasing the possibilities of achieving better fuel economy through intelligent energy management. From the summer of 2013, all model variants of the BMW 1 Series, the BMW 3 Series and the BMW 6 Series equipped with the eight-speed automatic transmission or the eight-speed sports transmission either optionally or as standard, will feature the new sailing mode. At speeds of between 50 and 160 km/h in the ECO PRO Mode, the drive train is disconnected as soon as the driver lifts his/her foot from the accelerator pedal without applying the brakes. As a result, the vehicle is able to ‘sail’ without engine power, thereby also achieving maximum fuel efficiency. Fuel economy is now promoted even more intensively using the optional navigation system Professional. The new anticipation assistant informs the driver of the ideal time to slow down when approaching bends, stretches, curves and roundabouts of road where speed limits are in force in order to obtain better fuel efficiency. For the first time, BMW EfficientDynamics technology and BMW ConnectedDrive technology will be networked with each other within the framework of the intelligent energy management – with the effect that further fuel savings will be achieved in ECO PRO mode.
 
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