These lugnuts s*ck!

[Wild one]

I have an LFP battery EV, it’s a very different battery composition than Lithium Ion that burns when ruptured.

I’ll be just fine.

Holy sh!te dude you've been viewing my profile for the last 10 minutes,what do you need to know,lol

 

[09SilverRam]

Holy sh!te dude you've been viewing my profile for the last 10 minutes,what do you need to know,lol

What?

 

[Wild one]

What?

You were viewing my profile for 10 minutes,so what do you need to know

 

[09SilverRam]

You were viewing my profile for 10 minutes,so what do you need to know

No idea what you are talking about homie. Get a hobby.

 

[Wild one]

No idea what you are talking about homie. Get a hobby.

The page don't lie bud,you were viewing my profile for 10 minutes,so kind of curious what you need to know.

 

[turkeybird56]

I have an LFP battery EV, it’s a very different battery composition than Lithium Ion that burns when ruptured.

I’ll be just fine.

I had to google and look up this LFP concept, seems by what I am reading a lil safer than lithium pack, but shorter range, but higher discharge/recharge cycles. Maybe in 30 more years, the industry will actually come upon a standard and safety listings like MDS reporting that will list all things considered.

Guess that means U not have a Tesla??? lol.....

FTR: Senor 09: if U happy with yer battery vehicle, hey be happy. The only thing I have besides regular operated battery stuff like flashlight: Is a weed whacker and pole saw (Which is in the shop since June cause it is a POS and fell apart, but covered under warranty). DIS BOIRD shall neva do battery, but that is my choice. I'll enjoy my now 6 yoa truck, lol, works for what I need. Also, my 19 yoa Motorcycle, and 26 YOA Hossie (alternate transportation).

 

[09SilverRam]

I had to google and look up this LFP concept, seems by what I am reading a lil safer than lithium pack, but shorter range, but higher discharge/recharge cycles. Maybe in 30 more years, the industry will actually come upon a standard and safety listings like MDS reporting that will list all things considered.

Guess that means U not have a Tesla??? lol.....

I have a Tesla Model 3 standard range. The LFP packs were used in the single motor standard range cars, the discharge rate is a little lower than the NMC / NCA pack they put in a dual motor car, and the energy density is a little lower resulting in a heavier pack. Since the standard range doesn’t have the weight of a second motor and gets a smaller pack LFP works really well for that application.

Everything else really leans in LFPs favor. It is more durable than the NMC pack, providing 3000 - 5000 full charge cycles vs 2000 - 3000 and is way less sensitive to degradation from being stored at a high state of charge. You can basically charge it to 100% all the time and still get more cycles out of it, vs NMC you are charging the battery to 80% in normal use and 100% for road trips.

LFP is rapidly replacing AGM in other applications outside EVs. Bass boat trolling motor batteries, stationary solar, data center UPS, RVs, etc. The only downside in those applications is you can’t charge when the battery temp is below freezing, but they discharge fine. You can get batteries with heated cases if you need it.

I replaced the group 27 trolling motor batteries in the boat with a pair of LFPs and took 80 pounds off the boat and doubled my trolling motor runtime since you can use all the power vs 50% of a flooded battery capacity.

 

[markabby]

That TPMS system came in handy last night. I must of hit a nail driving home in a dark, country road. It flashed telling me I was losing air from front right tire very quickly. I got a full size spare which I knew was good to go since I lowered it last week to undercoat the truck. Any way 3 of my bolts were bulged or distorted, I blame the guy that does state inspections going nuts with impact gun. Two of them I was able to remove but the last was impossible. Fortunately have a friend that lives 10 mins away from where I was and he came up with some tools. Long story short we had to chisel away at that cheap, soft chrome cover and beneath it was a a 20mill bolt, a little distorted but good enough to work loose. I just ordered 20 new lugnuts on Amazon that reviewers say are more durable than stock. We'll see.

why does state inspection remove the wheels? if it's to check brake wear, they can easily see the pads just by raising the vehicle.

 

[turkeybird56]

I have a Tesla Model 3 standard range. The LFP packs were used in the single motor standard range cars, the discharge rate is a little lower than the NMC / NCA pack they put in a dual motor car, and the energy density is a little lower resulting in a heavier pack. Since the standard range doesn’t have the weight of a second motor and gets a smaller pack LFP works really well for that application.

Everything else really leans in LFPs favor. It is more durable than the NMC pack, providing 3000 - 5000 full charge cycles vs 2000 - 3000 and is way less sensitive to degradation from being stored at a high state of charge. You can basically charge it to 100% all the time and still get more cycles out of it, vs NMC you are charging the battery to 80% in normal use and 100% for road trips.

LFP is rapidly replacing AGM in other applications outside EVs. Bass boat trolling motor batteries, stationary solar, data center UPS, RVs, etc. The only downside in those applications is you can’t charge when the battery temp is below freezing, but they discharge fine. You can get batteries with heated cases if you need it.

I replaced the group 27 trolling motor batteries in the boat with a pair of LFPs and took 80 pounds off the boat and doubled my trolling motor runtime since you can use all the power vs 50% of a flooded battery capacity.

So U have a Tesla with the standard battery pack. I would assume you have like a stage 2 high rate discharge setup at yer house to charge the vehicle. If it works for U, hey go for it. Seen the commercials now Chevy touting a pickup with over 400 mile range, put that puppy under Texas heat and needs bet it not do 400. But hey, whateva works. Just not something I have any interest in, tho looks like you are real knowledgeable and heavily invested. Good Luk on all that.

 

[09SilverRam]

So U have a Tesla with the standard battery pack. I would assume you have like a stage 2 high rate discharge setup at yer house to charge the vehicle. If it works for U, hey go for it. Seen the commercials now Chevy touting a pickup with over 400 mile range, put that puppy under Texas heat and needs bet it not do 400. But hey, whateva works. Just not something I have any interest in, tho looks like you are real knowledgeable and heavily invested. Good Luk on all that.

I have a 50a 240v home charger set for a max of 40a (80% of the breaker), although my car only pulls 32a when charging. I’ve driven 10,548 miles and spent $313 on electricity which is why I got it. At $3 a gallon that’s like driving a car that gets 101MPG. It’s also pretty fun, even the single motor is real quick.

The heat pump and battery conditioning siphon power, so the published range is generally high. My car is published 262mi range, I real world get right at 200. I drive about 60 miles a day and charge it every other day so for me range isn’t a big deal.

 

[turkeybird56]

I have a 50a 240v home charger set for a max of 40a (80% of the breaker), although my car only pulls 32a when charging. I’ve driven 10,548 miles and spent $313 on electricity which is why I got it. At $3 a gallon that’s like driving a car that gets 101MPG. It’s also pretty fun, even the single motor is real quick.

The heat pump and battery conditioning siphon power, so the published range is generally high. My car is published 262mi range, I real world get right at 200. I drive about 60 miles a day and charge it every other day so for me range isn’t a big deal.

For you, local suburbia driving, works. For me, in the middle big a z z TX, oh no, LOL. I also see U got an older RAM with the 4.7 Magnum for those other jobs. Just to go to a restaurant and for me to meet friends, 200 mile trip, not accounting for temps, heat, 85 mph IH speed, etc etc. But for suburbia, probably be ideal.

Some of them PPLs on the Interstate running up over 100 mph, which is a big barn burner, when U hit a bottleneck and speeds down to 10 mph, LOL.

 

[Wild one]

I have a Tesla Model 3 standard range. The LFP packs were used in the single motor standard range cars, the discharge rate is a little lower than the NMC / NCA pack they put in a dual motor car, and the energy density is a little lower resulting in a heavier pack. Since the standard range doesn’t have the weight of a second motor and gets a smaller pack LFP works really well for that application.

Everything else really leans in LFPs favor. It is more durable than the NMC pack, providing 3000 - 5000 full charge cycles vs 2000 - 3000 and is way less sensitive to degradation from being stored at a high state of charge. You can basically charge it to 100% all the time and still get more cycles out of it, vs NMC you are charging the battery to 80% in normal use and 100% for road trips.

LFP is rapidly replacing AGM in other applications outside EVs. Bass boat trolling motor batteries, stationary solar, data center UPS, RVs, etc. The only downside in those applications is you can’t charge when the battery temp is below freezing, but they discharge fine. You can get batteries with heated cases if you need it.

I replaced the group 27 trolling motor batteries in the boat with a pair of LFPs and took 80 pounds off the boat and doubled my trolling motor runtime since you can use all the power vs 50% of a flooded battery capacity.

From what i read on the LPF vehicles,is they aren't really a vehicle that's suited to northern climates,and wouldn't really be all that feasable on the Canadian Prairies where it can be upwards of a couple hundred miles between charging stations.Sounds like they'd be okay in a southern urban setting where you only drive maybe a 100 miles a day,but if you live where it can be upwards of couple hundred miles to an urban setting and it gets down below -25 for alot of the winter,not so much

 

[09SilverRam]

For you, local suburbia driving, works. For me, in the middle big a z z TX, oh no, LOL. I also see U got an older RAM with the 4.7 Magnum for those other jobs. Just to go to a restaurant and for me to meet friends, 200 mile trip, not accounting for temps, heat, 85 mph IH speed, etc etc. But for suburbia, probably be ideal.

Some of them PPLs on the Interstate running up over 100 mph, which is a big barn burner, when U hit a bottleneck and speeds down to 10 mph, LOL.

We have a Honda Pilot and the Model 3 that do the day to day driving between my wife and I, and the ram and a Cayman. So plenty of options.

From what i read on the LPF vehicles,is they aren't really a vehicle that's suited to northern climates,and wouldn't really be all that feasable on the Canadian Prairies where it can be upwards of a couple hundred miles between charging stations.Sounds like they'd be okay in a southern urban setting where you only drive maybe a 100 miles a day,but if you live where it can be upwards of couple hundred miles to an urban setting and it gets down below -25 for alot of the winter,not so much

I had a Model S when I lived in Minneapolis so I would say temperature really isn’t a factor, it’s more trip profile suitability. Especially now that more EVs are coming with heat pumps vs only strip heating. Charging at home it keeps the battery pre-heated and ramps it up based on a scheduled departure. The average American drives 40 miles a day so it fits for a lot of people.

 

[Jeepwalker]

A customer of mine.... he's a pretty conservative dude, the LAST person I would expect to get an EV. He commutes like 30 miles a day. Anyway he's always had bigger pickups, 2500-ish. He ditched it quite a while ago and bought an EV. His first one was a Leaf. That alone stunned me! But he loves it and that stunned me too. I forget what his last EV was. For commuting he says they make a lot of sense. And about 2 yrs later his work put in a couple chargers, which he uses a lot. I think he said the company pays for the electricity too.

I've rented several different EV's though I don't own one. If ya drive up and over mountains you get back almost all yer energy on the way down. I've driven them in desert CA for a few days, I didn't really see much degradation. But maybe i wasn't there long enough. They go like he// for sure! And vehicles which have paddle or toggle switches on the steering wheel are fun to drive.

One negative is driving in wet snow with a 2-motor Tesla was the scariest and most white knuckle drive I've ever had. And I grew up driving rear wheel drive cars in the countryside. 1) The tires are wide. 2) The throttle is 'instant' and super-easy to break traction in wet snow. 3) The regen braking is difficult to adjust if you don't know the car well, and the regen braking can lock up the rear wheels (or at least break traction) when ya let up off the throttle. I think there's a snow mode, but like everything Tesla you gotta hunt through the menu too get it. In my opinion, the lack of controls on a Tesla is downright dangerous. They make a decent car, but I would avoid a Tesla due to lack of controls. But the seats in ones I've drivenn were the most comfortable I've ever sat/driven in! And I've driven a lot of nice cars over the yrs.

But sticking to the Ram for now.

 

[Jeepwalker]

But back to Ram trucks, the lug nuts with stainless steel caps will generally stay nicer-looking longer than chrome lug nuts if you live in the salty north. Guys get on them with an impact and can crack the chrome too. For sure. And something else, I think the smooth chrome finish makes it easier to over-tighten the lug nuts when you get these monkeys tightening down with an impact. Vs Steel. That might be the engineering reason mfgrs use S/S-over-steel lug nut assemblies. I would think chrome plating would be slightly cheaper than installing a stainless cap. If you're paying attention to your vehicle, a guy ought to see when the lug nuts are starting to 'balloon' up. And replace them...just like you'd replace any other worn part. They're right there as ya walk by the vehicle. I look at mine.

The previous owner on one of my Chrysler vehicles was 'talked into' getting chrome lug nuts on her vehicle. Man they looked horrible by the time I bought it (2 yrs after they were installed!). I bought a bag of OEM Chrysler take-off's from Ebay and put back on the SS capped lug nuts (I put a daub of RTV over the bottom of each cap). That was a dozen yrs ago and none of them have bulged. I did the same for the Ram.

 

[Wild one]

We have a Honda Pilot and the Model 3 that do the day to day driving between my wife and I, and the ram and a Cayman. So plenty of options.

I had a Model S when I lived in Minneapolis so I would say temperature really isn’t a factor, it’s more trip profile suitability. Especially now that more EVs are coming with heat pumps vs only strip heating. Charging at home it keeps the battery pre-heated and ramps it up based on a scheduled departure. The average American drives 40 miles a day so it fits for a lot of people.

Minneapolis is summer compared to here in the winter,where it can get down to -50 or colder. Alot of places up here,it can be upwards of a couple hundred miles between charging stations,where there's reports of the cars not really charging very good while the battery heater is on and the temps are below -30.
In certain climates and locals they might be the cats ^ss,but here in the winter not so much

 

[Jeepwalker]

I think the key thing on EV's folks need to consider is it's an **improving** technology. Just like my first bag cell phone was a LOT clunkier, not much range, worse reception ....and far less capable than what I have in my pocket today.

Right now they are more like a fillet knife, than a swiss army knife. There are commuting situations they work great, and are cleaner. Obviously plenty of circumstances where they aren't a good fit. And longevity issues/expenses still yet to be seen/figured out. And the ones the Chinese make are almost the price of a regular gas car. I'm sure other mfgrs will figure out the manufacturing fomula eventually. It'll be interesting to see how battery technology improves in the next 10 yrs. But for me, personally, I'm more inclined to go the other way and get a simpler truck. Less electronics and ridiculous safety nanny's that sometimes cause as much harm than good. That's why I'm restoring my older GM OBS truck right now.

If a guy had a solar installation and commuted, an EV would be the cat's whiskers for that and local runs. The prices can be pretty low for DIY guys willing to take a few risks on a used EV nowadays.

 

[Wild one]

I think the key thing on EV's folks need to consider is it's an **improving** technology. Just like my first bag cell phone was a LOT clunkier and less capable than what I have in my pocket today.

And right now they are more like a fillet knife, than a swiss army knife. There are commuting situations they work great, but obviously plenty of circumstances where they don't. And longevity issues we don't even know about. And the ones the Chinese make are almost the price of a regular gas car. I'm sure other mfgrs will figure that out too. It'll be interesting to see how battery technology improves in the next 10 yrs.

If a guy had a solar installation an EV would be the cat's whiskers for doing local runs. The prices can be pretty low for DIY guys willing to take a few risks.

I'm waiting for them to install solar panels on the roofs of EV's,then they might be more feasable,lol

 

[Jeepwalker]

They do!! Here you go! LOL. You might have a tough time hauling sheets of plywood, landscaping tools or towing your TT.

 

[RamDiver]

They do!! Here you go! LOL. You might have a tough time hauling sheets of plywood, landscaping tools or towing your TT.

And forget the drive-through lane.

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