Unleaded 88 anyone?

[MRFREEZE57]

Ethonol still has less BTU's per gal. Diesel has more BTU per gal than gasoline which is why they get more mpg than a comparable gas engine. also it takes around the energy equivalent of about two gallons of ethanol to produce 1 gal, not to mention the increase in price of corn due to ethanol mandates, then factor in the need for fertilizer and other chemicals used is it really better for the environment?

 

[kurek]

Once again, no corn ethanol does not compete with table corn for land. It is a coproduct along with hundreds of other derivatives from the same harvest and even if we dumped the ethanol down the toilet instead of burning it we would still need to harvest exactly the same amount of dent corn because the meat and dairy industries need the solids. Anybody talking about the financial or environmental cost of ethanol production while ignoring the meat and dairy industries & other coproducts doesn't know what they are talking about or is deliberately lying or both.

We should be making ethanol out of kelp instead of corn but as long as people eat meat there's no incentive to do that because the base stock (corn sugar) is practically free.

 

[Daytona4702]

My RAM is a V6 and rated for E85 (85% Ethanol) I run it without issue and have ran blended fuels in many cars over the years, no problems - ever. Yes the blended fuels get less mileage, when I calculate the cost per mile it is always similar. Read your manual and you can safely run whatever it recommends.

 

[seabrook]

i only use 93 ima balla lol one thing about ethanol it keeps the water out of ur tank in the humid south and it’s good to drink

 

[HEMIMANN]

My RAM is a V6 and rated for E85 (85% Ethanol) I run it without issue and have ran blended fuels in many cars over the years, no problems - ever. Yes the blended fuels get less mileage, when I calculate the cost per mile it is always similar. Read your manual and you can safely run whatever it recommends.

Thanks for your recent experience and analysis. What this means is you consume more total gallons with alcohol gas for the same miles. Which means you have to refuel the truck more often.

I'd just as soon limit the fuel stability and storage issues now that I don't drive as much, so fill with the lowest alcohol content gasoline around, always Top Tier detergents. That's 10% max. around here, as mandated by the agril-lobby.

I don't mind biodiesel as much, being shown to be more cost-neutral, and has higher lubricity than straight #2. It has very short shelf life, needing continual spiking with biocide. No problem for me in summer with my ag tractor.

 

[RLJ10X]

Alcohol is in fuel to benefit farmers, who are the newest welfare group.

I've heard on the radio that the US has enough petroleum resources to last 125+ years.

Clean gasoline is around the corner. I for one, am not going to buy an electric vehicle any time soon.

Motortrend. (I'm sorry, tap on the picture....)

 

[HEMIMANN]

Articles from 20 years ago when this had started said the primary beneficiaries were the agribusiness corporations. Primarily Archer Daniels Midland and another I don't remember.

 

[Lyle Longboat]

Welll……. At least you guys KNOW what’s in your gas when you fill the tank….. 87/88/89/91/93…… we don’t have any option up here in God’s country and have straight 87 which no one knows what is really in it. So many junked vehicles here that look perfectly find (besides the odd rear fender rust). I lift my head to the heavens every time I pull to the pump. Glad nothing has occurred to any of my Vehicles that I can clearly point to the gas, but I hear stories of vehicles not running right after a fill up. Guess it depends on how full the gas cylinders are at the good ol local gas station.

 

[seabrook]

Welll……. At least you guys KNOW what’s in your gas when you fill the tank….. 87/88/89/91/93…… we don’t have any option up here in God’s country and have straight 87 which no one knows what is really in it. So many junked vehicles here that look perfectly find (besides the odd rear fender rust). I lift my head to the heavens every time I pull to the pump. Glad nothing has occurred to any of my Vehicles that I can clearly point to the gas, but I hear stories of vehicles not running right after a fill up. Guess it depends on how full the gas cylinders are at the good ol local gas station.

that used to happen around here one thing that happened in the 80s was exxon gas had catalyst particles in it and it would ruin a motor- exxon paid for some new motors. in 97' some kind of silicone got into the gas supply and caused problems. i havent seen any problems since.

 

[Dusty]

I didn't realize until recently that there's contrarian difference between an ecologist and an environmentalist. Last summer I was introduced to a professor of ecology who expounded on the subject of ethanol fuels and how the expansion of corn crops in the United States to produce ethanol has resulted in an increase of carbon dioxide being released from tilling the soil, which more than offsets any benefit from using ethanol in gasoline.

He suggested that 'no till' farming techniques could reduce carbon dioxide significantly.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33 gallon fuel tank, factory dual exhaust, 18” wheels. Build date: 03 June 2018. Now at: 067078 miles.

 

[MRFREEZE57]

I didn't realize until recently that there's contrarian difference between an ecologist and an environmentalist. Last summer I was introduced to a professor of ecology who expounded on the subject of ethanol fuels and how the expansion of corn crops in the United States to produce ethanol has resulted in an increase of carbon dioxide being released from tilling the soil, which more than offsets any benefit from using ethanol in gasoline.

He suggested that 'no till' farming techniques could reduce carbon dioxide significantly.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33 gallon fuel tank, factory dual exhaust, 18” wheels. Build date: 03 June 2018. Now at: 067078 miles.

That plus it is said it takes the energy equivalent of over 2 gallons of alcohol to produce 1 gallon. Just watch an episode of the Discovery channel Moonshiners will show that it takes a heat source, (normally a fossil fuel ) to produce ethanol.

 

[kurek]

How come nobody's talking about how much energy you have to put into separating ethanol out of corn so you can feed the solids to cows to make a cheeseburger? No it's always framed as the fuel's fault alone.