Well done Ram! Rumble Bee on the way.

[Kickboxer]

Single cabs rock!

And get a short box, then you have a bucking bronco............

 

[Wild one]

Where can you buy 100 octane ?

Google would be your friend to find stations in your area that carry 100 octane fuel at the pumps. I'm not interested in googling your area for you,you can do that yourself

 

[GeauxinUp]

Where can you buy 100 octane ?

Alternative Fuels Data Center: Ethanol Fueling Station Locations

 

[Docwagon1776]

This has become a topic over on one of the Viper truck forums.....oddly enough, the 392 version (if claims are to be believed) is almost literally the same performance as a 2004 SRT-10. Official factory numbers the 04 SRT-10 RC hits 60 faster vs the 392 Rumble Bee (4.9 vs 5.2, which is pure torque), which is surprising considering the traction advantage (AWD + standard 285's, 305's as an option with 325's from the SRT in the track pack) the newer truck has. The 10 loses the quarter (13.6 @ 106 vs 13.2 A 101 mph) timewise but with a higher trap speed.

What's the theory? Is the vehicle weight or gearing significantly different?

 

[Wild one]

What's the theory? Is the vehicle weight or gearing significantly different?

Gearing is significantly deeper on the 6 speed Viper trucks,they had 4.56's in their Dana rearends.It took one hell'va driver to get a SRT 10 into the mid 13's,all the ones i've seen were more like a low to mid 14 second truck,but our DA (density altitude) here usually ranges from 4,000 to 5,000 ft during the summer.
The SRT 10's were a tough truck to launch and make consistent passes with,while the new Rumble Bee should be a deadass consistent truck that even your Grandmother could drive fast

 

[Wild one]

Alternative Fuels Data Center: Ethanol Fueling Station Locations

To bad that site didn't list the stations that handle 100 octane fuel,they list the E85 stations though.

 

[HemiLonestar]

What's the theory? Is the vehicle weight or gearing significantly different?

Gearing is significantly deeper on the 6 speed Viper trucks,they had 4.56's in their Dana rearends.It took one hell'va driver to get a SRT 10 into the mid 13's,all the ones i've seen were more like a low to mid 14 second truck,but our DA (density altitude) here usually ranges from 4,000 to 5,000 ft during the summer.
The SRT 10's were a tough truck to launch and make consistent passes with,while the new Rumble Bee should be a deadass consistent truck that even your Grandmother could drive fast

2004 SRT-10 was ~5100 lbs vs 6258 lbs, so significant body weight difference (obviously RC vs QC). The 04 was rated 500/525 hooked to a 6sp manual and 4.10 gears (05-06 got the 4.56's to offset the extra weight of the quad cab). The 392 Bee is 470/455 but hooked to a ZF 8sp and AWD w/3.92's. As Wild said, those Viper RC's were a bItc4 to launch, even with the built in OEM spring snubbers and wind-up shock dampener. The listed performance numbers were done by a pro driver, probably the same guy who took it to 154 mph for the record that's about to fall (claims of the SRT and 392 track bee top ending at 170 mph). Safe to assume a pro got the numbers for the new trucks as well so it's still a pretty good comparison. Typical street driver likely wouldn't pull numbers like that in the older truck without a LOT of practice whereas that 8sp AWD just plants and goes, but even superior traction and gearing can't overcome physics (more power, less weight), hence the 0-60 times. Where that ZF really starts to shine is the timeslip but even then, the slower truck to the line was still going faster when it got there. Now once the blower gets involved it's all over. I haven't ridden any modern Mopar with a 'cat and AWD but I imagine the only word that accurately describes the launch is "violent".

 

[GeauxinUp]

2004 SRT-10 was ~5100 lbs vs 6258 lbs, so significant body weight difference (obviously RC vs QC). The 04 was rated 500/525 hooked to a 6sp manual and 4.10 gears (05-06 got the 4.56's to offset the extra weight of the quad cab). The 392 Bee is 470/455 but hooked to a ZF 8sp and AWD w/3.92's. As Wild said, those Viper RC's were a bItc4 to launch, even with the built in OEM spring snubbers and wind-up shock dampener. The listed performance numbers were done by a pro driver, probably the same guy who took it to 154 mph for the record that's about to fall (claims of the SRT and 392 track bee top ending at 170 mph). Safe to assume a pro got the numbers for the new trucks as well so it's still a pretty good comparison. Typical street driver likely wouldn't pull numbers like that in the older truck without a LOT of practice whereas that 8sp AWD just plants and goes, but even superior traction and gearing can't overcome physics (more power, less weight), hence the 0-60 times. Where that ZF really starts to shine is the timeslip but even then, the slower truck to the line was still going faster when it got there. No once the blower gets involved it's all over. I haven't ridden any modern Mopar with a 'cat and AWD but I imagine the only word that accurately describes the launch is "violent".

I don’t have a direct comparison, BUT I’ll assume I’m close to pushing 580ish whp, and a 3200 rpm boosted launch in my truck is pretty violent in AWD.
These new trucks should be really fun to play around in.

 

[HemiLonestar]

That's just about where peak torque is stock, so I imagine it's still in that rpm neighborhood after whatever you've done to it. Not quite the off idle blower hit but close enough.

 

[Wild one]

I don’t have a direct comparison, BUT I’ll assume I’m close to pushing 580ish whp, and a 3200 rpm boosted launch in my truck is pretty violent in AWD.
These new trucks should be really fun to play around in.

I'm amazed the brakes will hold it to 3200 rpm,i'd of thought it'd be pushing through them by that rpm on full boost.

 

[GeauxinUp]

I'm amazed the brakes will hold it to 3200 rpm,i'd of thought it'd be pushing through them by that rpm on full boost.

Takes more pressure, but it’ll hold. Side note: these brakes are outstanding on these trucks, I put them to full test a couple days ago when some idiotic jack wagon huckster decided to do a U-turn 100 ft in front of me at 65mph. Tires were howling and it felt like my rear tires were about to come off the ground, and the truck was gonna do a handstand, but it slowed enough to avoid the collision.

 

[Burla]

So the rumble bee is 11 inches longer then my reg cab, they shortened the bed to 5-7". I cant wait to see them in person. A full 13 inches less then any crew RAM you can currently get, 9 inches shorter then any current quad cab.

 

[06 Dodge]

Where can you buy 100 octane ?

Some VP Stations have it: https://vpracingfuels.com/pages/gas-station-locator

https://vpracingfuels.com/products/vp-110-octane-fuel?variant=47669997142209

https://vpracingfuels.com/collections/race-fuels?pf_t_fuel_type=Race%20Fuels

 

[GeauxinUp]

Some of the rumors on the Demon indicate a regular cab...just sayin
It's gonna be time for a lot of those "we want a reg cab" ****'s to put up or shut up, if that's the case! haha

 

[Tray Burge]

Some of the rumors on the Demon indicate a regular cab...just sayin
It's gonna be time for a lot of those "we want a reg cab" ****'s to put up or shut up, if that's the case! haha

Still wouldn't want to replace mine with one, I could just rebuild mine, come out cheaper and have a better looking truck. They still haven't come close in styling to the 3rd gen IMO.
3rd gens are like the 68-70 Chargers in terms of styling, they never hit that styling before 68 or after 70, timeless iconic. 2nd gens weren't quite there and 4th gens they lost it and never got it back.
It's good to hear they may offer one though, still better looking than all the competitors.

 

[Wild one]

Still wouldn't want to replace mine with one, I could just rebuild mine, come out cheaper and have a better looking truck. They still haven't come close in styling to the 3rd gen IMO.
3rd gens are like the 68-70 Chargers in terms of styling, they never hit that styling before 68 or after 70, timeless iconic. 2nd gens weren't quite there and 4th gens they lost it and never got it back.
It's good to hear they may offer one though, still better looking than all the competitors.

Never once have i thought the 68-70 Chargers were a good looking car,i always thought the 71-74 Chargers were the best looking Chargers built,and they didn't hold a candle to a 70-74 Cuda

 

[Tray Burge]

Never once have i thought the 68-70 Chargers were a good looking car,i always thought the 71-74 Chargers were the best looking Chargers built,and they didn't hold a candle to a 70-74 Cuda

None of them hold a candle to the 68 Road Runner!

 

[GeauxinUp]

Still wouldn't want to replace mine with one, I could just rebuild mine, come out cheaper and have a better looking truck. They still haven't come close in styling to the 3rd gen IMO.
3rd gens are like the 68-70 Chargers in terms of styling, they never hit that styling before 68 or after 70, timeless iconic. 2nd gens weren't quite there and 4th gens they lost it and never got it back.
It's good to hear they may offer one though, still better looking than all the competitors.

My point exactly, 95% of the folks griping about not having a reg cab, won’t buy one anyways…
P.S. 4th gen > 3rd gen

 

[Docwagon1776]

My point exactly, 95% of the folks griping about not having a reg cab, won’t buy one anyways…
P.S. 4th gen > 3rd gen View attachment 585271

4th Gen and 2nd Gen were peak Ram.

 

[Wild one]

None of them hold a candle to the 68 Road Runner!

I still think the Cuda's especially the 72 and 73 Cuda's were better looking although the 68-69 Runners were a close 2nd.Always loved the round tailights the 72 to 74 Cuda's had,but the bumpers on the 74's left a bit to be desired.
Also thought the Cuda's had the best looking interior of them all