Which would you do?

[Ohio5pt7]

Curious on opinions of what you guys would do for a tow/pulling build.

Let's hear pros and cons.

Stroker
FI
FBO/cam

I'll say stroker raises ceiling for future mods and less heat than fi more torque than fbo/cam.

Let's call it a 8k budget.
Ready GO!

 

[Graygoose]

displacement.


Ive done many 383, 406 SBC, always bigger!

 

[bfill_rebel]

Personally I love Supercharger whine/boost.

I believe I remember hearing something previously about Procharger staying/claiming to stay cooler when towing as they mount in front of engine to get air as well as from air-air intercooler. They claim this set-up does not heat soak like exhaust-mounted or engine-top-mounted options can, and keeps your EGT's cool and safe while giving you maximum reliable power even under the most extreme conditions. They claim about 150hp at 7psi and have self contained oil and don’t require tapping into trucks existing oil. You do need an unlocked or to unlock your PCM for their tuning.

Giving my enjoyment from SC noise I would do standard pulley/gear. But if you don’t like that noise they have a quieter helical gear.

My cousin ran a Procharger on his F250 for about 8yrs and never had issues when towing his brewing supplies


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[rule18]

Bore and Stroke if I was spending the money...

 

[Ludville1]

Stroker...

 

[Wwesley67]

Personally I love Supercharger whine/boost.

I believe I remember hearing something previously about Procharger staying/claiming to stay cooler when towing as they mount in front of engine to get air as well as from air-air intercooler. They claim this set-up does not heat soak like exhaust-mounted or engine-top-mounted options can, and keeps your EGT's cool and safe while giving you maximum reliable power even under the most extreme conditions. They claim about 150hp at 7psi and have self contained oil and don’t require tapping into trucks existing oil. You do need an unlocked or to unlock your PCM for their tuning.

Giving my enjoyment from SC noise I would do standard pulley/gear. But if you don’t like that noise they have a quieter helical gear.

My cousin ran a Procharger on his F250 for about 8yrs and never had issues when towing his brewing supplies


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[Wwesley67]

I had a 1998 Dakota when the new body style came out and immediately put Paxton on it, the whine when it was spooling up sounded great but way too laggy off the line. Traded that in 2004 for the new F150s and switched to a whipple roots supercharger and hands down there's no comparison. I ran that for 40k miles without a single problem, the only thing I missed was the whine being that they are quieter, nothing like an honest 110hp off the line and would tow all day long. Currently I ordered a Whipple Supercharger for my Rebel but wait time because of Covid is about 6 months with the color I ordered. I agree though if it's only being used for mostly work, towing the are a great choice. Oh, I really like your rebel, I just happened to know someone who has a pretty close twin to it..

 

[Sandevino]

Having owned and built a few FI vehicles over the years, I always come back to stroked big blocks. There’s nothing like the sound of a massive V8 to get the blood pumping.

This guy’s got goals...lol

 

[bfill_rebel]

I had a 1998 Dakota when the new body style came out and immediately put Paxton on it, the whine when it was spooling up sounded great but way too laggy off the line. Traded that in 2004 for the new F150s and switched to a whipple roots supercharger and hands down there's no comparison. I ran that for 40k miles without a single problem, the only thing I missed was the whine being that they are quieter, nothing like an honest 110hp off the line and would tow all day long. Currently I ordered a Whipple Supercharger for my Rebel but wait time because of Covid is about 6 months with the color I ordered. I agree though if it's only being used for mostly work, towing the are a great choice. Oh, I really like your rebel, I just happened to know someone who has a pretty close twin to it..

I agree. I had just thought I remember hearing Procharger may be a “preferred” towing FI setup. Maybe it’s all BS and marketing. As I know the whipple helps keep low end power. However I’ve been in some mustangs and Cameros that have Procharger and they don’t lag either.

While I know the saying “no replacement for displacement” and I whole heartedly love the sound of a big displacement V8... SC whine is intoxicating to my ears like Jack Daniels is to my liver. Lol.

First two cars that got me into modding:
Helped a buddy and his dad in highschool as they built/restored a 67 Nova.
Then had another buddy who had an 03 mustang cobra. 2.76” pulley, tune, bassani Offroad x pipe, bassani catback, steeda boost bypass, CAI, Throttle body, Metco idle pulley, think we ran 275 front/295 rear nitto 555s. Was a blast to drive. Deep throaty exhaust at mild throttle. Mod to full throttle deep roar and screaming SC whine. [emoji1786]

Like you... I was buying a SC it would be the whipple as I don’t really tow much that’s heavy. Trailer will a couple atvs or utv during hunting season is about It. You do appear to have great taste in your Rebel as well lol. What color Whipple did you order?


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[RedSRT4Me]

I think the better question would be 5.7 stroked or 6.4 stroked and why with an 8k budget?

 

[Wwesley67]

I agree. I had just thought I remember hearing Procharger may be a “preferred” towing FI setup. Maybe it’s all BS and marketing. As I know the whipple helps keep low end power. However I’ve been in some mustangs and Cameros that have Procharger and they don’t lag either.

While I know the saying “no replacement for displacement” and I whole heartedly love the sound of a big displacement V8... SC whine is intoxicating to my ears like Jack Daniels is to my liver. Lol.

First two cars that got me into modding:
Helped a buddy and his dad in highschool as they built/restored a 67 Nova.
Then had another buddy who had an 03 mustang cobra. 2.76” pulley, tune, bassani Offroad x pipe, bassani catback, steeda boost bypass, CAI, Throttle body, Metco idle pulley, think we ran 275 front/295 rear nitto 555s. Was a blast to drive. Deep throaty exhaust at mild throttle. Mod to full throttle deep roar and screaming SC whine. [emoji1786]

Like you... I was buying a SC it would be the whipple as I don’t really tow much that’s heavy. Trailer will a couple atvs or utv during hunting season is about It. You do appear to have great taste in your Rebel as well lol. What color Whipple did you order?


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[Wwesley67]

I agree with you about marketing, I've installed to many to count on customers cars/trucks and outside of custom tuning to the customers likes, their all more than capable of being daily grocery getter sleepers.. Hahaha..
I'm with you on cubic inches also, a big block puts a big old smile on my face. Top it with a tunnel ram sticking out of the hood and it's better than #%*....
I ordered Hemi Orange and I literally drive myself crazy just thinking on how sexy it's going to look & run. Just with the custom tuning I already did not to mention sending the computer out to get "unlocked" it's already crazy fast. This will atleast give me time to get custom ladder bars made to keep it from hopping off the line. This is the first air ride I had and didn't realize no one makes them for these. This is the first truck in many years that I can honestly say I absolutely love & don't see myself losing interest in it anytime soon.

 

[Ohio5pt7]

I think the better question would be 5.7 stroked or 6.4 stroked and why with an 8k budget?

8k budget is because if I would do any of them that's what I have to throw at it lol

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[Travelin Ram]

From the perspective of long distance travel (North America corner to corner) I found out spending my own time and money that performance mods leave you broke down in a strange place. If all your travel is close enough to home that you don’t mind the tow bill, then high performance is a lot of fun. On the other hand traveling half a year at a time like we do I run stock power. And it’s plenty.

If I was inclined to spend 8k on better towing, it would be forced induction without a doubt. 6.7 liters of Cummins. That’s the real answer to enjoyable towing. Just relaxing with one hand on the wheel and listening to the turbo spool. No drama, no roaring, just getting it done.

 

[ChevySlayer69]

I'd throw a blower on it and stroke it someday when the engine's toast.

 

[Sandevino]

I think the better question would be 5.7 stroked or 6.4 stroked and why with an 8k budget?

From what I've read, the 6.4 Hemi to some extent is a stroked 5.7 Hemi. Anyone have info supporting or debunking this?

 

[James OBrien]

Forced induction, with beefed up internals, seems the best route to me. I like big blocks, but a bulletproof 350 with forced induction/power adder and some supporting accessories/bolt ons to me is the best bang for the buck without the extra weight. 8K is pushing the edge of the budget though...

 

[tron67j]

From the perspective of long distance travel (North America corner to corner) I found out spending my own time and money that performance mods leave you broke down in a strange place. If all your travel is close enough to home that you don’t mind the tow bill, then high performance is a lot of fun. On the other hand traveling half a year at a time like we do I run stock power. And it’s plenty.

If I was inclined to spend 8k on better towing, it would be forced induction without a doubt. 6.7 liters of Cummins. That’s the real answer to enjoyable towing. Just relaxing with one hand on the wheel and listening to the turbo spool. No drama, no roaring, just getting it done.

Agree, more modifications could lead to problems at inopportune moments, and then finding a mechanic who can wade through it all is problematic. I have experience in way to many midnight breakdowns in the worst area and then losing a day or more while they work hard to help my family out. I vote for buying the Cummins with the maximum towing capabilities if that is what is needed. Then the possible list of mechanics grows from Ram to truck repair centers.