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josephgallipoli79

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I'm literally pulling my hair out. I cant figure out which of the 6 wires at the TPS harness would work as WOT for my zex efi universal nitrous kit. I've pinned all 6 wires, tested in run, foot to the floor no change. tried manually opening TB 100% on each pin, no change in voltage. tried all 6 wires at the accelerator harness no voltage change for either pedal to floor or manually opening TB. can anyone provide an idea here? also my service department printed me the vin matches diagrams still no luck. thanks in advance
 

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That's the problem with PCM controlled throttle bodies. Foot to the floor doesn't mean the throttle body is actually wide open, depending on what the computer decides in place of your foots decision.

I don't remember if the signal is PWM, which would account for you not seeing a voltage change.
 

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Get a pedal commander and tap off of that??
 

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I'm literally pulling my hair out. I cant figure out which of the 6 wires at the TPS harness would work as WOT for my zex efi universal nitrous kit. I've pinned all 6 wires, tested in run, foot to the floor no change. tried manually opening TB 100% on each pin, no change in voltage. tried all 6 wires at the accelerator harness no voltage change for either pedal to floor or manually opening TB. can anyone provide an idea here? also my service department printed me the vin matches diagrams still no luck. thanks in advance

Key in run position manually open the throttle blade slowly while sticking a multi-meter probe through the wires covering should show you the one you want,the connector has to be connected to the throttle body,so you need to push the meters probe through the wires covering. Mines all wrapped up,but seems to me it was one of the tan wires. If you go over to Nadodge on facebook,you'll find a lot of nitrous guys there,and somebody should know which wire. No i'm not willing to unwrap mine to find the wire for you,go to Nadodge ,lol
 
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found the answer if it ever helps anyone else. the sweeping voltage is only present with the motor running. pcm controls it. brown and orange lead off the tps gives 0.75v at idle and 4.6v WOT. in order to program the ZEX control you need to press the program button, close the hood, put it in drive and pedal to the floor on a road clear enough to do 10 seconds of WOT then stop and follow the rest of the instructions. thanks for the help hopefully this will help someone else
 

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found the answer if it ever helps anyone else. the sweeping voltage is only present with the motor running. pcm controls it. brown and orange lead off the tps gives 0.75v at idle and 4.6v WOT. in order to program the ZEX control you need to press the program button, close the hood, put it in drive and pedal to the floor on a road clear enough to do 10 seconds of WOT then stop and follow the rest of the instructions. thanks for the help hopefully this will help someone else

That's way more then it took on my 14.I never had the engine running or took it for a drive to set the throttle position,and the hood was always open,lol. My kit is specific for the Rams though. Things must have changed between the 14's and 18's,if you had to go through all that to get it working. Curious on why you bought the universal kit instead of the Ram specific kit ? This is the kit I have on my 14,and it was a piece of cake to put on

https://www.rpmoutlet.com/dodgetran.htm
 
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I followed these instructions and it works perfectly on my truck,and they tell you specifically to do it with the engine off,no where do they tell you ,you have to drive it at WOT for 10 seconds,all they tell you is to hold the throttle blade open for 10 seconds with the key in the run position.This still works on my truck anytime I play with the throttle position opening,lol

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IMPORTANT TECH NOTE! Due to the sensitivity of Dodge’s new throttle by wire system, the ZEX™ nitrous management unit may cause intermittent check engine lights on some vehicles if the included TPS resistor wire is not used. It is recommended that you install the enclosed white TPS resistor wire between the engine’s Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) output wire and the white TPS wire going to the ZEX™ Nitrous Management Unit. Use of this resistor will effectively isolate the Nitrous Management Unit and prevent check engine lights from occurring. This resistor in no way affects the activation or performance of your ZEX™ nitrous system.

Connect one end of the TPS Resistor Wire to the vehicle’s TPS voltage output wire. The correct TPS wire should have around .5 volts when the throttle blade is closed and around 4.5 volts when the throttle is opened fully. These are not exact voltage numbers, but simply give you an idea of the proper voltage you should be seeing. Connect the other end of the TPS resistor wire to the white wire from the Nitrous Management Unit. After these connections are completed, you need to install the arming switch/wire harness assembly. Find a suitable place in the interior of the vehicle for the arming switch and drill a 1/2 inch (.500) hole. Mount the switch and switch cover through this hole. Take the lead that the fuse assembly is attached to and find a suitable 12 volt accessory source of power under the dash. Use the T-tap electrical connector to splice into the 12 volt accessory wire and plug in the wire harness lead. Take the other lead from the arming switch and connect it to the red wire from the Nitrous Management Unit. As a reference for wire locations, use Fig. 8.

7. Program Activation Switch - Now that you have completed the wiring of your nitrous system, the next step is to program the Activation Switch.

IMPORTANT TECH NOTE! Due to unique throttle control programming from the factory, the throttle blade will not open with the accelerator pedal unless the engine is actually running. Since the ZEX™ Nitrous Management Unit’s throttle activation switch must be programmed by opening the throttle with the engine off, this would initially seem to pose a problem, but we have found a very simple solution. When the programming instructions call for the throttle blade to be opened to wide-open, simply remove the air intake tube from the throttle body inlet and manually open the throttle blade with a screwdriver, wooden dowel, etc.

To program the Activation Switch, turn the vehicle’s ignition on, but do not start the engine. Remove the air intake tube from the throttle body inlet. Turn the nitrous arming switch to the "ON" position. Go to the Nitrous Management Unit (NMU) and locate the push-button switch. Depress, then release, the push-button switch. Observe the NMU’s Operation Light. At this point, it should be RED. This RED light informs you that the NMU’s Activation Switch is in learn mode. Manually open the throttle blade to wide-open with a screwdriver, wooden dowel, etc. Hold it at WOT for ten seconds, then release the throttle blade, then go back to the NMU and observe the Operation Light. At this point, the light should be flashing continuously from RED to GREEN to OFF. This is the NMU’s way of telling you that it has successfully learned the voltage curve of your engine’s throttle position sensor. Go back to the driver’s compartment and turn off the system’s arming switch, then turn it back on. Go back to the NMU and observe the Operation Light. It should be solid GREEN at this point. This informs you that the system is armed and ready to activate at wide-open throttle. Open and release the throttle blade several times, you should hear the solenoids click each time you reach wide-open throttle. At this point, your Activation Switch is fully programmed and ready for use. If you ever transfer your nitrous system to another vehicle, perform this same procedure on the new vehicle to "relearn" the NMU’s Activation Switch.
 

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FYI,if you're also using Zex's adjustable bottle heater,do yourself a favour and spring for the NX #15943 pressure transducer.It's the same wiring and fitting as the Zex bottle heaters pressure transducer,but has a much tighter window between on and off then the Zex transducer has.Zex's transducer's pressure window is 125 psi between on and off while the NX transducers pressure window is only 50 psi between on and off. The NX transducer is adjustable to,same as the Zex transducer,but comes factory pre-set to turn on the bottle heater at a 1,000 psi and off at 1050 psi. You can adjust those pressures if you're so inclined,but it's far better pressure window in my opinion compared to Zex's which if I remember right turns on the bottle heater at around 925 psi and off at 1050 psi.Been awhile since I had the Zex transducer so i'm just going off memory,but if I remember right that's where I think my original Zex transducer was set at.
 
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Looking at that picture and the parts list it seems the only difference between the Universal EFI wet kit and that Dodge Ram specific it is the 12 volt cigarette lighter adapter. Basically everything else is dead on the same.
 
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I suck at forums...new to them lol. I think it's running though the zex 75 jets dont seem to put out anywhere near that. I've been hearing they say over rated power gains. did you notice a decent difference at 75hp?
 

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I suck at forums...new to them lol. I think it's running though the zex 75 jets dont seem to put out anywhere near that. I've been hearing they say over rated power gains. did you notice a decent difference at 75hp?

O-ya on mine there's a difference,lol. The truck gains almost a second at the track on the bottle. Did you check and make sure you can hear the solenoids clicking by manually opening the throttle blade.With the truck "off" turn the key to the "run" position and manually open the throttle blade,you should hear a very audible click from the solenoids . I find opening the throttle blade about 75% and setting the control module is where the solenoids kick in nicely.If you had the throttle blade at wide open, to where it won't go open any farther when you set the module,you might be a bit to far to actually kick the solenoids into play. The trucks won't normally stand the throttle blade straight up and down via the pedal ,so maybe try setting the controller with the throttle blade partially opened.Mine works good with the throttle blade set to open the solenoids at about 3/4 blade opening
 

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